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avidspotter 9th May 2020 11:32

pabely yep. Anyone would think some people here have another agenda :8 Wizz have certainly done a good job grabbing the headlines given they never actually stopped flying in the UK and others continue to do the same elsewhere.

ericlday 9th May 2020 12:48

Wizzair have certainly provided a much needed direct link to the uk from Tenerife, despite media trying their utmost to condemn it and in preference pushing the 'one stop' Iberia/BA link via the mainland. Lets hope they continue the service for the newly 'released' inhabitants of Tenerife.

pabely 12th May 2020 17:37

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LTNman 12th May 2020 20:02


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10780617)


LBC initially threatened to seek a judicial review in two letters sent to CBC, and previously warned that “traffic movements will be drawn through the north Luton urban area”.
Don't you just love this council who take hypocrisy to whole new levels. Their main complaint is that the new road will cause extra traffic to pass through the council estates of Marsh Farm causing extra traffic and pollution yet Luton Borough Council propose to use local residential roads in the east of Luton to get traffic from the A1M and A505 to Terminal 2.

Also what they don't mention is that this road they claim they don't want will link up eventually to the new proposed dual carriageway to Terminal 2 from New Airport Way so making half a ring road from junction 10 of the M1 to junction 11A of the M1.

With passenger numbers decimated, the council’s airport company London Luton Airport Limited (LLAL) is no longer receiving air traveller income.

Councillors will be forced to agree to "extremely difficult cuts" to key services unless a desperate plea to the government for £50m emergency revenue funding is successful.
More bull from the council as they have half a billion in reserves they don't want to touch and their airport income is extra income other councils would not get.

AirportPlanner1 12th May 2020 21:40


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10777249)
All this flack about Wizzair & LLA and here comes RYR doing the samefrom STN & DUB https://www.ryanair.com/content/dam/...ce-Covid19.pdf

All those routes except STN-Bucharest, Porto and Sofia have been operated throughout. Never stopped. On some days the FR to DUB has been LGW’s only flight. I guess the difference between FR and Wizz is the former has made clear its for essential travel whereas the latter will take anyone.

LTNman 12th May 2020 22:23

You can’t social distance on a half full aircraft. Does essential travel mean ignoring the risk because someone thinks their journey is essential. I would suspect most journeys are not essential particularly the destinations on offer from Luton.

Repatriation flights are different but then repatriation flights don’t offer a 3 times a day service during a lockdown.

AirportPlanner1 12th May 2020 22:36


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10780814)
You can’t social distance on a half full aircraft. Does essential travel mean ignoring the risk because someone thinks their journey is essential. I would suspect most journeys are not essential particularly the destinations on offer from Luton.

Repatriation flights are different but then repatriation flights don’t offer a 3 times a day service during a lockdown.

I suspect you’re right about Luton given the destinations but there is greater merit in the STN offer overall, they are more strategic. Eindhoven at first glance looks odd but it’s not too far from a number of major centres - Amsterdam, Brussels, Düsseldorf/Rhine-Ruhr. UK-Ireland is clearly important, some key workers shuttling back and forth. London-Berlin a key link. Budapest and Lisbon probably more for workers - either those returning home after being furloughed or now coming for farm jobs etc - but a few times a week is clearly more reasonable than 3x daily.

avidspotter 12th May 2020 23:17

Not sure how you can make a judgement about why people are travelling based solely on the destination LTNman? I suppose people from Eastern Europe don't have family emergencies or need to travel to/from the UK from work.

The problem is not the airports or the airlines but Government policy which has been confusing and unclear. The Government has that it is a personal decision as to what is essential travel and is up to individuals to decide. Look up Raab's statement from March 17 if you don't believe me.

LTNman 13th May 2020 07:20


I suppose people from Eastern Europe don't have family emergencies or need to travel to/from the UK from work.
Your comment should not target Eastern Europeans just because they are Eastern Europeans but Europeans in general, as the same point would cover people travelling to and from Tenerife, Portugal, Israel and Cyprus.

With quarantines set to be introduced in the UK and quarantines coming into force in Spain at the weekend it will be interesting to see if those people needing to travel for family emergencies and other essential reasons still bother to travel or whether the emergency can wait until the quarantine ends. That is assuming the quarantine is followed rather than for convenience ignored.

A single fare on the flight to Israel tomorrow is £504 so I expect it will be standing room only. While Wizz will be making money out of that flight I can't see them selling many tickets on their new Luton services any time soon unless the quarantine is short lived.

These are indeed black days for Luton and aviation in general. With these quarantine rules this would end what is remaining of Luton's Biz jet traffic.

LTNman 13th May 2020 20:34

The airport has had plenty of opportunities to fly their drone over the airport including the runway.


22/04 14th May 2020 08:16

Are those numbers still scheduled to change to 07/25

FRatSTN 14th May 2020 08:35

Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO /A /000/999/5152N00022W
A) EGGW
B) 20/05/21 01:30 C) 20/05/21 04:45
D) 0130-0230 0330-0445
E) A ZERO FLOW RATE CAN BE EXPECTED TO ALLOW WIP DUE TO RUNWAY REDESIGNATION. THE AIRPORT MAY BE MADE AVAILABLE WITH 20 MINUTES NOTICE FOLLOWING CO-ORDINATION WITH THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY.

Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO /A /000/999/5152N00022W

A) EGGW
B) 20/05/20 23:00 C) 20/05/21 00:00

E) AIRFIELD CLOSED TO ALL MOVEMENTS TO FACILITATE THE CHANGE IN THE RUNWAY REDESIGNATION FROM 26/08 TO 25/07

As per the above NOTAMs, still in effect, the runway redesignation is still due to take place next week on the night of the 20th-21st May.


22/04 14th May 2020 12:07

Thanks - that might be a historic video then

LTNman 14th May 2020 17:54

Construction update
 
The Dart Parkway station footbridge now crosses the railway tracks.
https://i.imgur.com/xyylDvL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GvtoGUc.jpg

The cutting under Taxiway Bravo now has a roof and is being filled in.
https://i.imgur.com/6fPbeu1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qysERSO.jpg

The section of track by the station now also has a roof which completes the tunnel.
https://i.imgur.com/CK302Y8.jpg

The passenger route from the drop off zone is being prepared for concrete and will cross the station entrance. What looks like the ticket hall is under construction.
https://i.imgur.com/wXmyV0U.jpg

The maintenance area now has two structures above the ground at either end
https://i.imgur.com/9zKPZmS.jpg

Finished several weeks ago the service road/ bin area is now hidden from view.
https://i.imgur.com/1yVfiy0.jpg

avidspotter 14th May 2020 18:37

Essential travel?
 
Talk about hypocrisy."Does essential travel mean ignoring the risk because someone thinks their journey is essential. I would suspect most journeys are not essential particularly the destinations on offer from Luton".

Not sure taking photos around the airport would constitute essential travel or even be in the spirit of the regulations about staying home as much as possible.

LTNman 14th May 2020 18:41

You seem to have an agenda against me with your petty comments. I suggest you keep up with new government advice. We are now allowed to exercise as much as we like from yesterday, which is why I have now done an update after a gap of 8 weeks. Just for info, going for a walk is not like sitting on an aircraft. Sorry you can’t work that out.

ericlday 14th May 2020 19:54

LTNman....Thank you for your construction update its much appreciated even from a Tenerife viewpoint...Stay Safe

avidspotter 14th May 2020 20:01

Not at all. They are great pictures and as usual a thorough and interesting round up.

I know you can exercise as many times as you like now, but surely even you would agree it is a little more than ironic that you would choose to take your exercise in the very place that you are so worked up about people travelling to and from unnecessarily "ignoring the risk" and potentially spreading the virus, especially as you have entered public areas like the car parks and terminal front on your "exercise".

LTNman 14th May 2020 20:48

Trust me, there was no one about and the car parks are all empty on the upper floors and all but empty on the lower floors. I would think there was more people in the local park.

I find it hard to get “worked up” in a sad empty place, as I have never seen it like this before. I was sent a couple of photos that I published back in April but to see it in person was quite shocking.

Oh, thank you ericlday for you comment. I do the updates with photos for people like you who get to the airport infrequently and are interested in what is going on. Saying that I don’t think I will be back anytime soon, which will stop avidspotter moaning with pointless drivel apart from his first sentence.

avidspotter 14th May 2020 21:46

Very sad and worrying times. And no sign its going to get better any time soon. Just reading Romania has also extended its travel ban. Wizz Air's bold claims at the start of the month now look exactly that, just bold claims. Still did a good job of raising their profile...


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