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Fairdealfrank 2nd Aug 2017 19:55

Obviously, makes sense, why go to all the hassle and expense.

At this rate, the LHR third rwy will be in use before the expanded SXF (for that is what it is).

atakacs 15th Aug 2017 20:46


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 9815249)
The question being will AB still be in business by the time BER opens...

Well I guess we have the answer....

Navpi 8th Sep 2017 05:36


Originally Posted by Fairdealfrank (Post 9850259)
Obviously, makes sense, why go to all the hassle and expense......

At this rate, the LHR third rwy will be in use before the expanded SXF (for that is what it is).

Sadly not re LHR

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/third-heathrow-runway-faces-further-year-of-delay-xl6v2sx2g

AerRyan 8th Sep 2017 07:22

BER not before 2090?

davidjohnson6 22nd Nov 2017 22:30

Opening unlikely before 2021

Article in German, but Google Translate will turn it into English for you...
Neuer Rückschlag am Hauptstadtflughafen: Geheimer Tüv-Bericht zum BER offenbart bisher unbekannte Mängel - Berlin - Tagesspiegel

AerRyan 22nd Nov 2017 22:39

The fall of Air Berlin may take some pressure off at least ;)

atakacs 16th Dec 2017 07:43

2020 now seems to be the target, although the article doesn't give any insight as of why this would be a more likely date than any other....

canberra97 17th Dec 2017 02:12

That FT article is behind a paywall!

Anyway the news that BER will not open until 2020 'at the earliest' was announced over two weeks ago and there is lots of press releases online and over on the a.net forums the discussion has run into over 100 posts so your actually a bit late with the news regarding BER.

atakacs 18th Dec 2017 08:45

Sorry about that - I did manage to access it without paying :ooh: - in any case not worth your money !

Could be - there seem to have a been a resurgence of posts on the topic recently. That being said I see very little information as of what is actually happening there.

c52 18th Dec 2017 16:38

October 2020 appears to have been announced on Friday, but this article doesn't take it very seriously. Flughafen Berlin-Brandenburg: Eröffnungstermin im Oktober 2020 - SPIEGEL ONLINE

And here's a perfectly serious article: Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg: BER soll im Oktober 2020 in Betrieb gehen | ZEIT ONLINE

LGS6753 13th Jan 2018 07:29

From the Telegraph:

Whatever happened to German efficiency? Berlin's new airport is a contender for the world's most useless

Hussar 54 15th Jan 2018 21:51

Belief in German efficiency and technical supremecy is taking a bit of a battering at the moment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...sea/ar-AAuAMwV

OK....The UK's record with airports and warships isn't much better but I guess everyone knows and agrees that.

andyhargreaves 18th Mar 2018 17:08

Flew through SXF last week. Inbound, bus to a new-ish looking passport control and baggage claim. All with BER branding.

Outbound just as dreadful as always. Overcrowded and too hot, additional lanes of security opened in the EZY terminal, but still queuing longer than at MAN T1.

In terms of the new terminal, even 2020 is being doubted:
https://www.verkehrsrundschau.de/nachrichten/flughafen-berater-zweifelt-an-start-des-hauptstadtflughafens-2020-2142473.html

A LH employee has (perhaps flippantly) suggested it should be knocked down:
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article174662258/Pannen-Flughafen-BER-Das-Ding-wird-abgerissen-und-neu-gebaut.html

Also from the same article, the passenger info screens installed prior to 2012 are due to be replaced as they’ve reached the end of their lifecycle.

This story is simply astounding.

atakacs 9th May 2018 19:02

Apparently they want to contract another terminal before opening the current one!

The fun continues...

Barling Magna 10th May 2018 08:33

Amazing example of German inefficiency.

atakacs 27th Jun 2018 17:10

When you thought you've seen it all...
.BER as a VW parking lot

atakacs 10th Dec 2018 07:51

Just passed by today - the usual sh*hole.

Noticed that they built another small "satellite" boarding building (gates 3x) and more and more shops (although still not a decent restaurant). Clearly, money is still being spent in the old DDR terminal.

What is happening with the new building - I don't see much work there over the years? surely they could have dismantled and rebuilt it twice since they discovered that it was not up to standards ?!

ExpectmorePayless 10th Dec 2018 16:07


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10332261)
Just passed by today - the usual sh*hole.

Noticed that they built another small "satellite" boarding building (gates 3x) and more and more shops (although still not a decent restaurant). Clearly, money is still being spent in the old DDR terminal.

What is happening with the new building - I don't see much work there over the years? surely they could have dismantled and rebuilt it twice since they discovered that it was not up to standards ?!

And they've gone and built the satellite building in such a position so as to lose use of one of the 3 decent boarding bridges. Never mind I suppose most the customer airlines now want boarding via forward and aft stairs, even though passengers may have to queue in the rain and snow.

I complained to the airport authority regarding the closure of the superb Movenpick restaurant on the first floor. I was informed the lease had been terminated as BER was due to open shortly. That was at least 5 years ago.
The culinary choice now comprises a burger bar or a hot dog stand. Brilliant !

Robin757 18th Dec 2018 07:24

SXF
 
What is this I hear that when the new airport opens the terminal facilities at SXF will be kept as an additional terminal! Is this true what a Berliner tells me? Apparently he says there has been some official press release from the airport authorities. It also states that there will have to be substantial alterations to the stands and taxiways.

TheLambtonWorm 18th Dec 2018 09:13


Originally Posted by Robin757 (Post 10338165)
What is this I hear that when the new airport opens the terminal facilities at SXF will be kept as an additional terminal! Is this true what a Berliner tells me? Apparently he says there has been some official press release from the airport authorities. It also states that there will have to be substantial alterations to the stands and taxiways.

According to the map at the link (sorry can't post links properly at the moment) below it will become T5.
hxxp://roadmap.berlin-airport.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/20180503_BER20SXF20bezeichnungen20moniteurs.jpg

More news can be found here:
hxxp://roadmap.berlin-airport.de/category/en/30_news-en


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