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AerRyan 18th Sep 2015 07:21

Ever hear of Norweigen Air Shuttle? They were the first LCC on transatlantic.

Ryanair won't launch transatlantic until they get a hold of a nice amount of Widebody jets (10+). At the moment these are in rather short supply, so I can't see Transatlantic for quite some time on Ryanair.

aer lingus 18th Sep 2015 09:42

WEst Jet have been flying T/A for the last two years, started with Dublin last year and now Edinburgh this year.

owenc 18th Sep 2015 09:53

What about wifi and connectivity?

RAT 5 18th Sep 2015 09:54

Ever hear of Norweigen Air Shuttle? They were the first LCC on transatlantic.

Ever hear of Laker Airways?

Big newspaper article about MOL trying to cosy up to KLM for a feeder link. This has been broached with BA as well, as discussed on here. "Whatever next"? said Red Riding Hood to the Fox.

737aviator 18th Sep 2015 10:53


WEst Jet have been flying T/A for the last two years, started with Dublin last year and now Edinburgh this year.
Westjet flew St Johns - Dublin for the summer season of 2014 and 2015, and its Halifax - Glasgow that launched for summer 2015 in addition to Dublin.

racedo 18th Sep 2015 17:38


Originally Posted by RAT 5 (Post 9120984)

Big newspaper article about MOL trying to cosy up to KLM for a feeder link. This has been broached with BA as well, as discussed on here. "Whatever next"? said Red Riding Hood to the Fox.

Who needs whom more ?

Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make €1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.

RAT 5 18th Sep 2015 19:25

KLM makes profit and wants to dump AF. I would have thought, if KLM wants an LoCo external feeder, they would go to ez. All very hypothetical and very much wait & see, & out of our influence.
I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?

racedo 18th Sep 2015 20:11


Originally Posted by RAT 5 (Post 9121563)
KLM makes profit and wants to dump AF. I would have thought, if KLM wants an LoCo external feeder, they would go to ez. All very hypothetical and very much wait & see, & out of our influence.

AF own KLM so KLM has bugger all influence of what AF do.


I wonder why everybody trumpets RYR profits. If I read the figures correctly ez makes more profit per a/c than RYR, but no-one trumpets that. Am I wrong?
Easyjet Fares are 38% higher than Ryanair

Jamie2k9 19th Sep 2015 11:21


Ryanair heading in excess of 100 million passengers and on course to make €1 this year where as KLM is part of Air France............nuff said.
Would be time to make drastic changes if that forecast is correct :rolleyes:


Easyjet Fares are 38% higher than Ryanair
28% according latest FR data however it's a numbers game and very easy for anybody to present them to make one side seem more appealing.

racedo 19th Sep 2015 11:43


Originally Posted by Jamie2k9 (Post 9122107)
Would be time to make drastic changes if that forecast is correct :rolleyes:



28% according latest FR data however it's a numbers game and very easy for anybody to present them to make one side seem more appealing.

Ouch on 1 but I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct.

RAT 5 19th Sep 2015 12:03

There are 'fares' & 'fares'. Is it apples & apples? That debate has been had many times between many carriers. I often fly a national carrier. Often its final paid price with luggage is cheaper than a LoCo from the same area, not necessarily airport. e.g. the final price is €120 national & €150 Loco. Not too much if convenience might dictate the higher fare. But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as €30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say €90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
Thus it is still all a mystery and finding apples & apples is not easy. It still comes down to the final charges on the credit card.

CCFAIRPORT 19th Sep 2015 15:50

NEW ROUTE

Bristol to Krakow

4 flights / week (MO-WE-FR-SU)

From March 17th 2016

Jamie2k9 19th Sep 2015 15:52


I was correct on fares as I said Easyjet 38% higher than Ryanair (78/56), their claim is 28% lower than Easyjet which is also correct
Fair enough suppose lots of ways to look at it.


But, I'm then astounded, when clicking on 'fare details' of the national to see the 'ticket fare' is as low as €30. The add ons are security, pax tax, environment tax, ATC charges, airport xyz, etc. etc. In that case even the ticket fare was cheaper than the LoCo which started life at say €90. The LoCo price breakdown only publishes the add ons charged by the airline after you've bought the ticket. What puzzles me is that the ticket is sometimes, not this occasion, cheaper than the mandatory add-ons charged by the airport. How can that be???? Surely every carrier has to pay the local charges equally?
Generally yes but airport costs vary for gates/a-bridges/aircraft/terminal in some cases, time on ground etc.

It's really based on how you display the fee's to customers. FR have displayed the taxes previously but then loco's sort of moved to a single fare which flag carriers had but also allow a more detailed breakdown.

In some cases it's not practical to change passengers full fee's etc on every single route. UK-IE traffic would be a good example.

RAT 5 19th Sep 2015 19:34

If what you say is correct then you have proved my point. The pax is only interested in the final price; i.e. the charge on the credit card. However, the PR for the airlines is to promote that they are the cheapest fare. Apples and any fruit you care to mention, but rarely the same. True for all carriers. There are too many quirks. Buyer beware.

CCFAIRPORT 21st Sep 2015 11:49

NEW ROUTES

Rome-Fiumicino to Kos
Rome-Fiumicino to Creta Chania
Rome-Fiumicino to Corfu
Rome-Fiumicino to Crotone
Rome-Fiumicino to Trapani
Rome-Fiumicino to Malta

Starts 27 and 29th March 2016

CCFAIRPORT 22nd Sep 2015 10:16

NEW ROUTE

Copenhagen to Tenerife South

from 26th october 2015 (winter season only) 2 pw

scodaman 22nd Sep 2015 17:00

Anyone with connections know what Ryanairs plans are for City of Derry Airport EGAE/LDY for summer 2016?

HH6702 22nd Sep 2015 17:51

Still hoping they add a few more from Newcastle

ssflyer 23rd Sep 2015 22:09

Nowt yet for 2016 to GRO from EMA/BHX (non expected) or from BRS.
Don't tell me that Stanstead will be the only airport between London and MAN offering that route?
SSF

daz211 24th Sep 2015 08:38

I wish Ryanair would introduce a MAN - STN service
I'm sure a deal is there to be had


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