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Sober Lark 8th Feb 2015 21:15

Thanks both of you. This is what I came across - US preclearance at Stockholm Arlanda Airport - Swedavia

owenc 8th Feb 2015 21:28

The airlines aren't going to use a mainland Europe airport as a hub when Dublin is the first stop.

DollarBill 9th Feb 2015 09:31

The airlines aren't going to use a mainland Europe airport as a hub when Dublin is the first stop.

Tell that to the airlines who are operating from hubs allover Europe to the USA. Maybe you know something that they don't?

owenc 9th Feb 2015 12:43

Most of those airlines are not American. Preclearance would never work in big airports anyway due to passenger volumes, it would be even worse than NYC.:sad:

Cian 9th Feb 2015 20:40


Most of those airlines are not American. Preclearance would never work in big airports anyway due to passenger volumes, it would be even worse than NYC.
YYZ CBP handles about 8M pax a year. Not many airports in Europe have 8M pax to the US.

Airports just need to be designed to handle it. The large airports in Canada make Dublin's CBP look pathetic, with large post-clearance areas with shops, bars, waiting areas etc.

airbourne 10th Feb 2015 01:03

Who's the mod on this forum these days? Still Pprune Pop?

Copenhagen 10th Feb 2015 07:06

And the irony is that all the post cbp retailing in Montreal is run by dublin airports Ari team.

Hogg 10th Feb 2015 07:55

Airbourne
 
There's a few of us, all busy with jobs/life also so best thing respectively is if you or indeed any poster has an issue report the post. It will then be reviewed in due course by the team.

Cian 10th Feb 2015 12:53


And the irony is that all the post cbp retailing in Montreal is run by dublin airports Ari team.
Branded identically to DUB, at that.

Had as enjoyable a wait as possible for a heavily delayed United Express flight last year, I would have probably gone out of my mind in DUBs CBP "lounge".

j636 10th Feb 2015 13:21


Branded identically to DUB, at that.

Had as enjoyable a wait as possible for a heavily delayed United Express flight last year, I would have probably gone out of my mind in DUBs CBP "lounge".
Being a while since I used it but is there space for improving the offering in future without building work or is that needed?

Copenhagen 10th Feb 2015 13:38

The problem is that post cbp is considered U.S. territory and therefore isn't duty free anymore.

owenc 10th Feb 2015 15:51

Well they sell Irish crisps and stuff

El Bunto 10th Feb 2015 17:52


The problem is that post cbp is considered U.S. territory
It's even scarier than that, as I discovered during an incident at Dublin. It's a weird limbo.

It remains host-country territory,diplomatically and legally, however:


4. Within the preclearance area, the Host Party shall:
...
(d) authorize the Inspecting Party's preclearance
officers who act on reasonable grounds to use as much
force as is necessary to perform their preclearance
duties under the Agreement. The preclearance officer
may not use force that is intended or is likely to
cause death or cause grievous bodily harm, unless the
officer believes on reasonable grounds that it is
necessary for self-preservation or the preservation of
anyone in the preclearance area from death or grievous
harm.
So basically Ireland ( or Canada or whomever ) grants US officials physical power over host-country citizens on host-country territory.

bannercounty 10th Feb 2015 19:41

In a confined area Bunto. Stop making an issue out of it! You need to look at it in the same way as a controlled airspace.

Cian 10th Feb 2015 21:26


So basically Ireland ( or Canada or whomever ) grants US officials physical power over host-country citizens on host-country territory.
An arrangement we could reciprocate on, if it made any sense at all. But it doesn't, as no airport in the US has the flight volume to DUB/SNN to justify it.

EI-A330-300 12th Feb 2015 09:40

Ryanair launched winter 15 which sess Lunlin resumed while a new daily service to CPH begins (fourth carrier) now. Some increases elsewhere BCN goes 3 daily, clearly a Vueling determent as when they operated at Xmas they operated a third daily.

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ne...ule/?market=ie

brian_dromey 12th Feb 2015 10:12

Four airlines to CPH? I wonder how long that will last. It wasn't long ago that SK was the only airline on the route. What has brought on the sudden increase? Scandinavia has long been very poorly connected to Ireland. Is it a case of Norwegian trying to encroach on FR's home territory. FR really don't like that. The question is how long will the other three hang around for?

I'd be less troubled about BCN. Always a very popular destination that can probably support more flights and airlines than most. I'll be interested to see how Vueling do, its been a while since DUB had a new airline, I wonder if they will have more inbound passengers? Im sure most Irish wouldn't have a clue who that Vueling crowd are!

EI-A330-300 12th Feb 2015 10:40

SK a long time
EI were and droped around 2008 and resumed in 2013
DY began in 2009
FR begin 2015

EI will likely drop and not sure if DY will because of the Long hail arm.

EI-BUD 12th Feb 2015 11:58

There is a history of EI starting and stopping the CPH route, hopefully this time they will hold on. I hope that the US connectivity will render the route sustainable.

I suspect SK and DY will exit sooner than EI and FR. EI will hold out, if their approach is to exit in the face of extremely low fares like the 60c I've just paid for return, they may as well take that approach across their network and so routes like DUB BRU would be canned too. I can't see that happening.

EI are quite resilient, time has shown that.

EI-A330-300 12th Feb 2015 12:13

EI offer no connections. DY may keep it to show the US they are not just taking advantage of AOC.

SK got rid of EI and FR off Stockholm so don't under estimate them within 12 months, first FR and then EI.

EI-A330-300 16th Feb 2015 01:27

Just going back to the B787 coming on the 20 March, it will be from Heathorw and when the CEO announced the visit he also said a decision on USPC had not being taken yet.

EI-A330-300 26th Feb 2015 10:43

Aer Lingus announced that ORD will increase from 7 to 10 weekly during November and December and operated by 752's on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays however at busy times during the period A330 has being scheduled.

Una Due Tfc 27th Feb 2015 23:28

I notice on the interactive map of destinations served from DUB, Austin and Dallas show up.....um, no?

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/fli...-airlines.aspx

Also are TSC going direct to YUL again?

Dontgothere 28th Feb 2015 02:29

I agree with Una on the doubts over AUS etc., I think they've gotten things a bit mixed up, I checked it out and 17h38m flight duration is a touch long for a 'direct' flight.

Noxegon 28th Feb 2015 06:28

At least it's a touch more accurate than TheAirDB...

Dublin (DUB) - Airport details

blaggerman 28th Feb 2015 08:25


Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
I notice on the interactive map of destinations served from DUB, Austin and Dallas show up.....um, no?

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/fli...-airlines.aspx

Also are TSC going direct to YUL again?

It's the usual deceptive nonsense from the US carriers where they use international flight numbers on domestics. They sell it as a direct flight (not non-stop), even though there's a change of plane at the stopover, but for example DL177 appears in the GDS as DUB-ATL-DFW.

EI-A330-300 5th Mar 2015 21:33

Swiss to commence 4 weekly service to Geneva (EI operate 7/8 weekly). Flights commence 26 June with A319.

GVA-DUB 06.10-07.20
DUB-GVA 08.00-11.15

As reported elsewhere 12 weekly BE service to Cardiff and EI return with 5 weekly DSA service.

QR could be set to finally announce a service this year to!

EI-A330-300 9th Mar 2015 11:26

daa have commenced work to create an additional 10 stands (100 currently) and 3 taxing lanes to reduce congestion. Operational by April 2016.

Dublin Airport taking off with a ?20m expansion - Independent.ie

Just a spotter 9th Mar 2015 17:48

I noticed some excavation towards the north of the airfield during the week, around the currently closed runway 29.

I wonder if that's part of this development will it later be taken out (just as the short lived and expensive "C Pier" was to make way for Terminal 2) when runway 28R is built over the existing Rwy 29.

JAS

EI-A330-300 11th Mar 2015 20:00

Almost 1.5 million passengers in Feb up 17%, first two months of year over 2.9 million up 15% (over 400k)!

Latest News > Almost 1.5 Million Passengers At Dublin Airport In February

ia350 11th Mar 2015 22:06

Fantastic figures . Will we see any more new routes announced ? I'll say we'll be looking at 23M+ this year .

Jamie2k9 12th Mar 2015 00:23


I noticed some excavation towards the north of the airfield during the week, around the currently closed runway 29.

I wonder if that's part of this development will it later be taken out (just as the short lived and expensive "C Pier" was to make way for Terminal 2) when runway 28R is built over the existing Rwy 29.

JAS
No impact, believe 5G stands were planned when runway plans were drawn up.

Jamie2k9 26th Mar 2015 15:01

Ethiopian will operate from T1 rather than T2 when service commences.

Finnair also this week announced HEL will be extended year round and operate 3 weekly during winter 15/16.

ACL also released summer 2015 stats which show capacity up 11%!

http://www.acl-uk.org/UserFiles/File...0S15%20SoS.pdf

Sober Lark 1st Apr 2015 08:02

Dubai Airports who owns and manages Dubai International DXB has made an approach to DAA Plc to purchase the IATA 3 letter code DUB for an undisclosed sum. Apparently they intend using DUB as the airport code for Dubai.

EI-A330-300 1st Apr 2015 08:33

2 FR aircraft clipped one another again today, last happened in October.

Ryanair planes clip each other at Dublin Airport - RTÉ News

EINNMAN 1st Apr 2015 09:10

I believe the offer is exactly €100 million, apparently a nod to the 100th anniversary of the 1916 rising which is the year the change would become effective. A lot of dosh for the letter "U".

Una Due Tfc 1st Apr 2015 09:13

That's about a third of the total cost of a parallel runway........Dooooooo it :}

waffler 1st Apr 2015 09:39

Notice the date gents !

Una Due Tfc 1st Apr 2015 09:53


Originally Posted by waffler (Post 8928690)
Notice the date gents !

Ah very nice. I really need to buy a calendar.

ia350 2nd Apr 2015 12:45

Aer lingus just departed for Reykjavik , just a charter ?


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