Cityjet have said that they carried 23000 passengers on Dublin London City in May, this represents as we know a huge increase for them over last year when in May 2014 they carried almost 16000.


Hence, BA Cityflyer carried over 14000 passengers, total numbers on the route for May were 37434.


So split is Cityjet: BA; 60:40.


Thought this may be on interest to those interested in the Dublin thread...

LH will increase MUC from 2 to 6 weekly from late October after extending the route year round last winter for the first time.

Latest News > Lufthansa To Triple Capacity On Dublin-Munich Route For Winter

Any update on the reason for AC1903 (ATH-YUL) diverting to DUB? Something to do with water system so, seems to be a tech rather than human threat.

Interesting kick-off!


Turbulence at Dublin Airport: Seven passengers on inaugural flight from Ethiopia claim asylum - Herald.ie

DUB
 

I wonder will the DAA pay out transit cash to ET as they didnt continue their journey....:=

A considerably more comfortable experience than being plucked from a raft by LE Eithne in the med I'm sure.

These pax were probably destined for DUB anyway, this is the flight that takes PAX in DUB.

They don't pay out transit cash, they have incredibility cheap transit costs which airlines pay to them.

ET will be hit with fines unless they sort this out however as no cases have been reported since the first flight they may of gotten themselves together.

oobemichael21
 

Thanks to" cosy f" for alerting us to the fact that 7 passengers claimed asylum on the inaugral flight of Ethiopean to dublin on its way to JFK.I spoke to friends about this flight sometime ago and we agreed it was a godsend for bogus asylum seekers to take advantage of it.
Little did we realise it would happen on the inaugral flight!

If the Daa do not take this matter very seriously and have a serious talk with Ethiopean this breech will widen.If it happens again they should suggest reviewing the landing arrangement completely.
Let the Dublin Airport Authority know that the spotlight is now on you.

Small correction, it was on its way to LAX.

Anyone know the number of passengers on each route last year ? Wikipedia is the best I could find .

Thanks

You should try the CSO airport-pairings stats which are both more comprehensive and more authoritative.

The A350 is due next Wednesday (according to boards,ie poster) at DUB for a demonstration, unclear what the visit is for such as Aer Lingus, aircraft lessors or daa.

Apparent schedule is:
Arrive at 0900 local from Toulouse on 08th July as AIB 901.
1 hour demo flight at 1315
Depart at 15.00 local for Toulouse on 08th July as AIB 903

Looks like the visit is confirmed and it's for AerCap leasing, IDA, Airbus and Aer Lingus

Airline Route reports DL plan A333 on 5 of 7 weekly ATL flights commencing 26 May 2016.

I know they have planned the A332 before but It only opetated one season.

A380 by EK from next March, poster suggests they have a good source and EK have confirmed. Another says daa have tendered for 300 stand to be adjusted. A few other slight adjustments to be made in the coming weeks.

On the evening 22.20 departure.

Fantastic news if true , so will it be 777 and a380 ?

Wow an A380 in Dublin would be amazing! Congratulations!

Would appear so, small chance A380 could commence from start of winter in October. Guess we will find out soon but it appears it will be happening.

Anyone know how the Charlotte route is doing ? Surprise AA have been bringing an a330 in for a while now .

A380
 

Any idea which stand and how many air bridges will be available to off load up to 615 passengers? At DXB they use 3 but lots of airports only use 2. Will be great news and so quick since they opened the route.

Surly it will still be a complex operation to get from runway to stand all the same?

When the new T2 bus lounge openes wil EIR transfer all operations. I know its around 2 years off.

http://www.aviationreg.ie/_fileuploa...0Proposals.pdf

Pages 55 and 132.

Thanks! An interesting read, clearly prepared/preparing for growth In coming years

Emirates clearly have been in and said what they want!

Safe to say DUB will not see the problems which UK airports see and only put hands in pockets when it gets to a critical level.

I was at T2 last weekend and only 4 EI short haul flights used 300 gates between 08.00-13.30, major improvement on last year. Whoever did stand/slot allocation for long haul did a great job this year.

I've never worked in DUB so all this info is second hand from controllers I know up there:

If an A380 was taxiing from runway 28 or to runway 10, there could be no other arrivals or departures while it was moving or for several minutes before it departed or several minutes before or after it arrived as it's wings would be too close to the runway. IF this rumour is true, then the A380 and anything arriving subsequently will have to be put in the hold for at least 5 minutes to allow traffic ahead to be cleared, then the A380 will have to be taken in, alone, while yet more traffic builds in the hold until the A380 is at it's gate (probably another 10 minutes). So probably another 10 aircraft minimum. Same when it's departing, and it departs during the busiest time of the day for arrivals. If this is true it will cause absolute chaos and cost EI and FR an absolute fortune in wasted fuel.

Emirates tried to bring the A380 2 years ago and were told no for this reason. If it happens it will cause far more harm than good to traffic statistics. It would be so stupidly suicidal only the DAA would be capable of doing it.

Image before Rationality.

1 - IAA save airlines more fuel than anywhere in the world
2 - an average of 4 arrivals in summer impacted in a 20 minute window and less in winter as it's earlier
3 - They can extend the 7 arrivals in 10 minutes longer (6 excluding certain periods)
4 - Not sure how it will hurt traffic stats
5 - DUB is slot controlled so easy sorted, lots of fuel was burned yesterday with 30 minutes from push back to take off with 16 in use.

Believe it will always land on 10 and straight into 300 gates via E2, L2, F2, L3 even if the flow of traffic is into 28 with very few departures will be grand. If it was the other way it would cause major delays but this way it's off the runway quickly.

Other news - Austrian Airlines returned to DUB this year today and will operate a 9 weekly charter service to VIE (via JER outbound).

I like to think I make my fair share of contributions to those fuel savings seeing as I do work for the IAA.

Dublin is slot controlled, but so is every high level sector in Europe, so say a flight from Warsaw to Dublin needs to be cleared by the Central Flow Management Unit through probably about twenty different sectors, so it needs all those slots too, therefore delaying other flights is easier said than done.

You can't just flip a runway 180 degrees unless the winds are very calm, and if you do it takes a lot of time, so unless the skies are totally clear you need to open the hold.

Let's say the winds do allow 28 to flip to 10 for the A380, which will be very rarely possible in winter (remember that runway is very short and very narrow for an A380 so very little margin for a tailwind), it means any arrivals need to hold until they can either follow it down 10 or wait for 28 to become available. No departures can push back until the A380 is at it's gate, because if they taxi for 28 they'll lose their cockpit at the 16/34 hold point for 28, and if they taxi for 10 they'll lose the left wing.

It'll hurt traffic stats because in the 10-15 mins the airport has to close you could move 10 odd a320s etc.

Remember flights get delayed or arrive early all the time. If the A380 is allowed into Dublin it will cause mayhem.

Thanks for the info but

How can it be guaranteed to always land on 10? The prevailing wind at DUB is approx SW but there have been increasing instances of 16 being in use due to heavy storms and, even then, resulting in go-arounds and diversions.

As a matter of interest is it capable of landing on 16?

22.20 is basically the last departure from Dublin each day so going out shouldn't be a problem. Coming in would be based on what I read above

Amid all the idle speculation we have a winner. Funniest post I've seen here in a long time.

RWY 10 can have horrific tailwinds, I agree it makes absolutely no sense.

My understanding is movements would not have to be halted when the A380 moving to stand. There is a little taxiway work required but runway lighting will be dropped down soon. Push back may be impacted but at the time of day there is a handful of lights mostly form 100 gates so they can push back and hold.

The runway 10 comment is valid while it will not always be practicable (a lot) normal airfield movements or the way ATC would like to operate is the A380 would have 1600 m coming in from 28 and 2200 m coming in from 10. Now this figures are for larger aircraft than a certain size, I am not sure if they include the A380 but they don't say they don't and aircraft should exit.

Anyway if it comes in 2016 or not it will be coming and lets be honest new runway construction is imminent, 25 million should be hit at some stage in 2016, once the daa have non construction work done they can turn a sod once 25,000,001 is passed.

The daa would of discussed with the IAA the implications of A380 coming before the new runway is built so I suspect they have cleared it. (don't know but if they said no, it wouldn't be planned).

How are you getting different runway lengths for R10 and 28?

it's the landing threshold to the point of the intersection of the runway centreline and the extended exit. Below is the exact details

RY 10
Wingspan less than 36m + B757 preferred exit point on runway is E3* (1690m)
All other aircraft preferred exit point on runway is E2 (2240m)

RY 28
Wingspan less than 24m + all turboprops preferred exit point on runway is E5* (1240m)
All other aircraft preferred exit point on runway is RET E6 (1597m)

*E3 and E5 have visibility restrictions in place

It's preferred exits and ATC should be notified between 4-8NM out or at earliest opportunity if unable to vacate at those exits.

June traffic reaches almost 2.5 million passengers up 18% (almost 400,000)

Europe 1.4 million +17%
UK 753,000 +18%
Transatlantic 295,000 +21%
Other international 69,000 +36%
Domestic 7,000 +13%

Latest News > Almost 2.5 Million Passengers In June

Additional 1.5 million passengers for first half of year to stand at 11.5 million +15%

Latest News > Passenger Numbers Up 15% In First Six Months At Dublin Airport

July should reach around 2.6 million and exceed 24 million this year is very doable. Last July was only 2.3 million and at the very least June growth should be repeated and more.

Very impressive growth - double digit in all major markets!

It would be interesting to see how freight tonnage is doing.

Certainly, 24m seems doable, which would presumably bring DUB back to the pre-crash peak. :ok:

Just tracking planes at Dublin. Well it's clearly busier than last year which was busy enough.

I have been tracking my flight and t never seems to leave on time, ranging from 40 minutes to 2 hours after schedhuled departure time.

This is disappointing. I would rather leave at my time of departure rather than sit an extra hour on a 7 hour flight.

It's time they build the second runway. New transatlantic routes are added each year at a rate of 3/4, they can't be having that next year onto this.

The delays are all being accrued in the morning departure rush. Planes are trying to recover the schedule all day after. The closure of taxiway Alpha after the 2 FR incidents has massively exacerbated the problem

Owen

Airline, Flight and Route?

Appears Ryanair may be a little rattled and on the defence since IAG is going through. Next winter they already increase the number of aircraft based from 21 to 25 but apeculation now is it will be increased up to 30.

Wonder if it will!!

http://m.independent.ie/business/iri...-31388694.html