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Una Due Tfc 15th Nov 2014 20:04

There was a rumour a while back of a 2 x weekly TCX to Cancun, nothing came of it though. I suspect carriers who would think of launching this service are already getting Irish pax through MAN, LGW etc so probably not worth their while in doing it.

On a different note, I've noticed a B764 doing the Delta DUB-JFK run lately, a permanent fixture or just for the web summit last week?

j636 15th Nov 2014 20:11

Full season with DL.

EI-A330-300 24th Nov 2014 12:09

United confirm ORD will run between 4 June and 17 August (US departures)

UA152 ORD-DUB-18.05-07.35 D 752
UA153 DUB-ORD-09.50-12.15 D 752

Total of 25 weekly flights each way.

09.50, 10.35, 11.30, 15.45* DUB-ORD
15.50, 18.05, 18.35, 20.00* ORD-DUB

* - Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun

With CLT planned for 330, this 752 flight slots into the changes to a stand to accommodate 3 752s together. Worked well this year.

Mlinnie 24th Nov 2014 16:13

United S15
 
Is EWR still 2 daily for peak summer months??

EI-A330-300 24th Nov 2014 16:17

Second EWR also returns. 4 daily UA flights peak season.

EI321 25th Nov 2014 00:43

Won't all this extra transatlantic traffic cause serious issues with T2 gates at peak times. Perhaps its time to look at building the additional pier to the south of T2.

sprite1 25th Nov 2014 13:10

T2 gates
 
Yeah, I understand EI are being asked/pushed/whatever to use the B pier again for european flights in S15. This is throughout the day, I mean. I know they use them for first wave departures and last wave arrivals.

Has to do with the Ethiopia, extra EI long haul and the above mentioned American aircraft for next summer.

Anyone remember O'Leary's 'white elephant' comment? So what if it was quiet and spacious at times. We don't all want to be squeezed in like sardines like T1 in 2006.

Jamie2k9 25th Nov 2014 14:23


Yeah, I understand EI are being asked/pushed/whatever to use the B pier again for european flights in S15. This is throughout the day, I mean. I know they use them for first wave departures and last wave arrivals.

Has to do with the Ethiopia, extra EI long haul and the above mentioned American aircraft for next summer.

Anyone remember O'Leary's 'white elephant' comment? So what if it was quiet and spacious at times. We don't all want to be squeezed in like sardines like T1 in 2006.
It won't really affect many. Most used B up until 13.00 anyway. Only a few in E.

They will probably lose 2 stands with the ET arrival/departure. EI will probably arrive on E and be moved off stand to B for the morning or moved back to E between 06.30 and 07.30 before the EY arrival takes the stand which is usually 10-15 late arriving anyway. What we have next summer is DL to ALT in and out between 06.30-08.40 which will help. CLT 332 shouldn't cause much bother either giving the times. Once the 12.55 departures to EWR goes the rest of US flights board downstairs. I'm sure AA improving punctuality would be a great help to! Not much chance of that happening.

Jamie2k9 25th Nov 2014 23:10

Luxair will commence a weekly FAO charter next summer.

FAO-DUB 08.40-11.30 B738
DUB-FAO 12.30-15.30 B738

Flights to Antalya also resume since Thomas Cook exited.

EI-A330-300 26th Nov 2014 09:19

Transavia are to begin a service to Paris Orly next year. French media list Dublin along with others and will be announced on Monday.

Cyrano 26th Nov 2014 10:09

Kerry and Donegal PSO routes both renewed, both awarded to Stobart Air this time: announcement.

EI-A330-300 27th Nov 2014 11:28

Daily year round service to Paris ORY from 1 June.

ORY-DUB 18.20-19.10 - D ex Sat
ORY-DUB 06.30-07.20 - Sat

DUb-ORY 19.55-22.45 - D ex Sat
DUB-ORY 08.05-10.55 - Sat

Between 12 and 13 daily flights to all 3 Paris Airports.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...aris-Orly.aspx

Noxegon 27th Nov 2014 16:35

I've got to say I'm thrilled at the prospect of being able to fly to Paris* without using CDG.

*BVA is not Paris.

EI-A330-300 30th Nov 2014 13:10

Latest News > Dublin Airport Passes 20 Million Passenger Mark

1.3 million extra passengers and 20 million passed a month earlier than in 2013.

While November stats are not ready they passed 1.4 million mark.

Should make over 21.6 million for 2014 at least.

Transit passengers up 38% with over 650,000.

AerRyan 30th Nov 2014 22:31


United confirm ORD will run between 4 June and 17 August (US departures)

UA152 ORD-DUB-18.05-07.35 D 752
UA153 DUB-ORD-09.50-12.15 D 752

Total of 25 weekly flights each way.

09.50, 10.35, 11.30, 15.45* DUB-ORD
15.50, 18.05, 18.35, 20.00* ORD-DUB

* - Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun
It may seem that united has partially revolted against Aer Lingus starting Washington.

Jack1985 30th Nov 2014 22:50

Nope, UA had been talking about an ORD service since late 2013 If I remember correctly. Both carriers are complementing each other.

Sharklet_321 1st Dec 2014 04:00

RE the PSO going to Stobart, i'm assuming that means they will deploy the ATR-72 on the CFN-DUB route? That is a huge capacity increase from current SF-340's of Loganair. Quite good news. Although in the past it was operated by ATR-42's…

chuboy 1st Dec 2014 07:49

Stobart currently has an AT42 as well? I assume they will use that. I'm not up to date on what their operations are but they just closed their base in Shannon so that may have freed it up.

Fairdealfrank 2nd Dec 2014 00:42


I've got to say I'm thrilled at the prospect of being able to fly to Paris* without using CDG.
Quite right, CDG is a S**thole.



*BVA is not Paris.
It is in the sense that OXF is London, and it is in "FR-speak", but apart from that........

Fairdealfrank 2nd Dec 2014 00:42


I've got to say I'm thrilled at the prospect of being able to fly to Paris* without using CDG.
Quite right, CDG is a S**thole, ORY is so much better.



*BVA is not Paris.
It is in the sense that OXF is London, and it is in "FR-speak", but apart from that........

alserire 2nd Dec 2014 09:48

As an aside......
 
O'Leary really did get it catastrophically wrong when he claimed Terminal 2 was a white elephant.

Can anyone imagine what a one terminal Dublin airport would be like now?
:ugh:

He really wasn't thinking ahead.

Sober Lark 2nd Dec 2014 10:41

alserire, depends on your definition of White Elephant. Is T2 value for money? Can T2 be extended to add additional traffic? Was a 15m passenger capacity a blinkered approach? Was the creation of so many incursion hotspots good value for money?

EI-A330-300 2nd Dec 2014 10:53

Not sure but anything build between 2004-2007 is value for money!

Yes. If I can remember its another 15 million.

Possibly however B pier was always part of the plan

Lets be honest here Ryanair were never going to be happy. Using a field next to the airport for check in/security would do them just fine.

Just a spotter 2nd Dec 2014 13:10

There's a DAA annual report from a couple of years back, can't recall which, that stated the "B pier"/300's need significant remedial work as there is a crack that affects the structural integrity of the structure. The plan was once T2 was live that the pier would be closed, repaired and extended to accommodate more stands. IIRC, an extension was also proposed for what was the A's, now 200's.

IMHO, that's not likely in the short to medium term. My guess is that the new ATC tower is the priority development at the field as it paves the way for 28R, then toss up between additional gates/pier extensions (repairs?) or 28R post 2020.

JAS

Una Due Tfc 2nd Dec 2014 14:30

The new tower will be funded by the IAA, and latest talk is that it's to be finished some time in 2017. Nothing official has been announced as such, all just talk afaik currently.

The DAA were asked by airlines not to build T2 where it is, for various reasons; more cul de sacs, too close to the threshold of 28/34, making an already complicated taxiway layout even worse, and they bulldozed 3 or 4 brand new gates to make it. The "H" pattern works just great at most major airports, but the DAA knows better.....

alserire 6th Dec 2014 14:45

My issue is the chaos that was Terminal 1 check in and security before T2 was built, especially in the morning. It's a far more civilised experience now in either terminal.

I have no great love for O'Leary and I cannot imagine what Dublin would have been like if he had had his way.

Value for money is a different story. As someone else pointed out no building in Ireland built in the early 00's could be described as being value for money.

But it certainly means a better travel experience and there is great scope for further routes/airlines as the economy recovers.

EI-A330-300 6th Dec 2014 21:29

The IAA have tendered for remote towers at Cork and Shannon to be controlled from Dublin.

Una Due Tfc 6th Dec 2014 22:30

Only at night initially

EI-A330-300 8th Dec 2014 15:38

DL drop the 332 for the third year running on ATL however AA upgrade JFK to B763.

Angry Rebel 13th Dec 2014 11:51

4 APFS tenders and a clatter of police surrounding an RE ATR at T1. Anyone know what the problem is?

Angry Rebel 13th Dec 2014 12:00

Pax seem to have been offloaded to buses and escorted under blue lights to terminal.

Jack1985 13th Dec 2014 12:04

It's the special Santa flight, full escort laid on. :)

Angry Rebel 13th Dec 2014 17:19

Can't tell if that's sarcastic, a joke or serious?!

racedo 13th Dec 2014 20:00


O'Leary really did get it catastrophically wrong when he claimed Terminal 2 was a white elephant.

Can anyone imagine what a one terminal Dublin airport would be like now?
:ugh:

He really wasn't thinking ahead.
MOL called it right as DAA blew a €billion.

There has been a plan for decades to have a separate low cost privately built Terminal at Dublin but DAA and its Unions have done everything to stop it even getting to planning stage.

Now everybody is lauding increasing passenger numbers and claiming great Terminal where as MOL stating he did what he said he would do, drop Passenger duty taxes and Ryanair will increase flights. Taxes reduction which apparently was opposed from Dept of Transport.

Now Airlines will continue to get hit to pay for the White Elephant in charges.

Noxegon 13th Dec 2014 21:32

Speaking as a passenger, I like Terminal 2 and am quite happy to pay that little bit extra to use it.

Not everyone wants the race to the bottom that O'Leary (used to) promulgate.

Just my €10.62...

Paul_from_Dublin 14th Dec 2014 08:39

Speaking as another passenger I also like T2. Last time I used Ryanair they were using a portacabin added on to T1.

Sometimes Ryanair is cheaper and sometimes it's not but there's more to life than saving €10.

racedo 14th Dec 2014 12:45


Speaking as another passenger I also like T2. Last time I used Ryanair they were using a portacabin added on to T1.
Put there by DAA who wasted the €billion

j636 14th Dec 2014 12:54

T2 was not a billion by the way.

Una Due Tfc 14th Dec 2014 13:34

I'm not opposed to a loco terminal, but there is a serious shortage of widebody stands in the mornings in DUB even with 2 terminals, and I suspect a loco terminal would be narrowbody only, with no U.S. custom facility

Epsomdog 14th Dec 2014 13:41

I don't think you could describe T2 as a white elephant! It's certainly being used and it meets the needs of a fair number of pax and airlines.

Is there a need for a lo cost terminal? Possibly! It may be a big gamble though. If pax then vote with their feet. I wonder which terminal they would prefer?


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