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learjet50 18th Dec 2011 15:14

750XL
 
I Think we have a weather and snow clearance expert with Top Spotter

He seems to know all there is to know about un forcast Weather etc

Maybe he would like to ring the snow clearance team when he feels the weather might turn Ho Ho

I have nothing against spotters whatsoever but his name TOPSPOTTER i think sums him up is he king of the Spotters at EMA or what

TOPSPOTTER

Concentrate on EMA let the PROFFESIONALS at Manchester sort out the problems at Manchester which they have done very sucessfully over Many years

OOps have to go a flake of snow went by will have to alert all and we do have an Air Zimbongwer DC!2 and a Half due from from Upper loola
due soon (Would hate it have to divert to EMA may give Top spotter a Thromby_

Going to Evening Mass

Amen


Gerry

Ian Brooks 18th Dec 2011 16:09

Top Spotter or is it top T***** because you are really is winding me up and gives the real spotters a bad name.
Manchester actually gets less snow than many of the south eastern airports and usually when it does it is the worst type (wet ) which causes very large problems in that slush is very bad for aircraft ( Munich 1958 ) it reduces performance on take off dramitically so has to be cleared before departures whereas a small build up of dry snow will blow away as aircraft take off
Topspotter try clearing your drive with wet and dry snow and see the difference in effort needed and the results, then think what it is like to clear 2 miles of runway and 3 or 4 times more in taxyway and ramps

Ian B

TSR2 18th Dec 2011 17:13

Posted by Topspotter

er... its mid winter in the northern half of the country
Officially the FIRST day of winter this year is DECEMBER 22nd

TURIN 18th Dec 2011 17:44


The airport closed because the snow wasn't predicted, meaning we didn't have the staff on standby to deal with the snow that fell
Oh come on!!

I watched the TV weather forcast on three different channels. BBC, ITV & Sky. All of them predicted snow in the middle of the UK with the edges of that snow boundary brushing MAN. I live 15 miles south of the airport. I was expecting snow and planned accordingly. You telling me the airport didn't?
Bull!! They took a risk and made the wrong call just to save a few bob.

All for the sake of a handful of staff probably on minimum wage+.

Bad call. Typical bean counters. For the sake of a few hundred quid in staff costs they have cost the airlines and themselves thousands. Not to mention upsetting passengers, the bad press and poor performance expectation in the future. World class my Arris!!

:=

opnot 18th Dec 2011 17:44

topspotter
I do not know where you get your info from , where I was sat the samos was giving a OAT of zero or less and snow showers most of the morning

mickyman 18th Dec 2011 19:25

Well done 'Topspotter' you have managed to annoy all the
opinionated - self obsessed - self important baffoons who
'contribute' to this 'Manchester R US' thread.

Keep up the good work - bring on the blizzard !!

MM

Homo Simpson 18th Dec 2011 21:06

You lot need girlfriends!!!

Sunnyjohn 18th Dec 2011 21:56

I follow this thread because I hope one day there will be news regarding flights to Valencia (there are, starting in March). However, I will now continue to read it for its sheer entertainment value. Do keep up the good work chaps and chapesses.

JSCL 18th Dec 2011 21:57


You lot need girlfriends!!!
Why bother when they can just get a job with Cathay? ;)

TURIN 18th Dec 2011 22:35


You lot need girlfriends!!!
Absolutely!

But I think my wife would object. ;)

Ian Brooks 19th Dec 2011 07:58

Turin exactly! I was going to say the same but my wife was stood next to me at the time lol!

Ian B

FR- 19th Dec 2011 08:44

Any one like to post about MAN? How are the ryanair routes doing so far, ive noticed the flights are very cheap.

fr-

TSR2 19th Dec 2011 09:18


How are the ryanair routes doing so far, ive noticed the flights are very cheap.
Some may be, but others are very expensive particularly if you need to take a hold bag.

JSCL 19th Dec 2011 09:23

Wouldn't say FR were too cheap out of MAN. Flew out on a Friday morning to DUB. Returned same day abut 8pm flight back.

Booked for 14 people to travel, came out to £108/person return. I didnt see it as cheap. No hold baggage or even carry on for that fact. I despise using LOCO's. Aer Lingus was cheaper on the day but only 5 seats avail.

Suzeman 19th Dec 2011 12:00

Runway 2
 

I would say the biggest mistake with the 2nd runway was not building a taxiway all the way to the far western end; thus requiring any aircraft landing on 23L, or departing on 05R to back track on the runway.

I think there was a plan to do this in the future.
In the original planning, there was a plan to have a parallel taxiway for the second runway. However it was dropped because

1) The way the runways are normally used because of the spacing between them - landing on 05R or departing on 23L doesn't require one. A parallel taxiway is only required when landing 23L and departing 05R which doesn't happen often (although all this summer whilst R1 is fixed but at night-time only when traffic is generally lighter)

2) A parallel taxiway would require much extra land take, a much longer tunnel over the river and A538 and the cost could not be justified with so little regular use and no capacity gain in normal operations.

3) Bearing in mind the above and the planning climate, it was decided not to proceed with it.

Who knows whether it will ever be resurrected - I guess not in the foreseeable future anyway

Suzeman

Topspotter 19th Dec 2011 12:28

750XL.....Ref your comments about lack of staff, how about training some of the keystone ops guys to operate sleet clearing equipment? that way a vast army of under used jobsworths could if the unthinkable does happen and snow/sleet falls in a major northern european airport in mid winter leap into action and prevent the sort of debacle that once again befell man a few days ago.

On the other hand the airport could break the habit of a lifetime actually plan for the unthinkable so when the siberian onslaught thats been predicated for days does arrive staff trained for the momentous task of sleet clearing are on shift

750XL 19th Dec 2011 13:36

Majority of FR flights are showing good load factors, usually 130+ on most flights depending on the day. Obviously some of the DUB flights have low loads (like they've always done) but generally loads look strong, with decent amount of bags on some of the longer routes :hmm:

Espada III 19th Dec 2011 13:58

DAY RETURN FLIGHTS?
 
Apart from the obvious FRA, AMS, CDG and BRU are there any European cities one can fly to from MAN early in the morning and return late at night, for a good day trip? I would like to do DUB, but the flights seem to return too early to get an early evening meal in.

JSCL 19th Dec 2011 14:04

Prague and IOM are doable :)

Skipness One Echo 19th Dec 2011 14:13

London.
That is all.


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