Flightcheck is not known for it`s accurcy

Could it be the opening of the NCL,BRS and another UK base as rumoured a couple of months ago ?

Faro flights from MAN over winter are reduced to between 3 and 6 per week depending on the month. Back to daily in March and double daily on certain days of the week, according to Monarch website.

I heard there was a bird strike yesterday at GIB on the LTN flight. I was flying from GIB yesterday but i was going to MAN. Didnt see it though.

Ive heard Monarch are buying bmibaby...... ????

Oh jings, not again

Is the Indonesian A330 going to be heading off to Oz next week? Seems they have a need there at the moment.

Why would Monarch want to purchase Baby?

The annoucement isn't going to be as big as everyone expects. Expect a "steady as she goes" annoucement i'd say. This day next week we'll all know by the sounds of it.

Airbus 321-200,

Please can you indicate if some new routes are likely to be in the offing?

Monarch Airlines Gets $121 Million Bailout, Sunday Times Reports - Bloomberg

Found this really strange today. ZB532/533 (MAN - PMI - MAN) is a morning flight and ZB534/535 (MAN - PMI - MAN) is an afternoon/evening one but for some strange reason today it was the other way round. Never seen this happen before. Anyone know why?

DomyDom - I don't have any inside info here but i just don't think it'll be as big as it's being built up as. New routes are always on the cards especially with the switch from MON to ZB.

This is simply press speculation from a newspaper that really ought to know better (it's that time of year). Swiss billionaires aren't in the habit of throwing good money after bad - that's why they remain Swiss billionaires that have increased their wealth over recent years, despite the "recession".

In reality, they are playing a long game and will back loans to companies in their portfolio that have served them well and will do so again in the future.

An airline's profit is but one element in the big picture. The shareholders buy and then lease aircraft that they own to the Company and are thus having their aircraft bought from the lease costs. Once these aircraft are paid for (after say 10 years) they make a substantial profit for the shareholder (not the company) for another 10 or more years, analogous to buying a buy-to-let house and having the tenants buy it for you in 10 years via their rent and therefter you enjoy another 10 years with no mortgage payments. Unfortunately aircraft tend to last not much longer than 20 or so years, unlike houses.

The point is that Monarch does not need to make money to be of value to the shareholders - why do you think it has NEVER made a substantial profit of more than £10m, despite a £700+m turnover in recent years, in over 40 years of trading?

another bailout
 

The line was always 3 consecutive years of losses and Sergio would sell. Wonder if that's still his mindset.

Brown's utter ineptitude continues to damage the business. Even after he's long gone. Shame.

Funny that.. That is what Wolfang was hinting at the other day! Found it quite to believe myself but apparently an announcement is due on Thursday..

bmi Mainline announcement to follow a week or so after..

If bmi baby have and announcement by the end of the week then that matches up with monarchs "big" announcement. It would be a good way to get into the regional markets.

In what way? Don't Baby only have Belfast and East Mids that are uncommon with the rest of the Monarch bases?

AirbusA321-200, thanks for your response. I guess time will tell. Thanks again, DomyDom.

Newcastle Summer 2012
 

Hi

THomas cook holidays have 4 757 aircraft planned to be based at NCL next summer again. THis summer there was 2 from TCX and 1 from AEU and 1 from MINT airlines....

Could Monarch have teamed up with TCX at NCL to operate a based aircraft on behalf of TC holidays. This way it would give monarch the entrance into operating from NCL with out such a high risk....
If say each flight was chartered by TCX holidays say 80% of seats then 20% of seats to be sold through monarch.com??

What do you think?