DSA is costly with it being a virtual base - crew are put up in hotels overnight. So that doesn't help.

But it probably all goes back to Easyjet's deal with DSA's sister airport at LPL. An agreement Easyjet probably don't want to be in, given their current 'keen-ess' on MAN. It was rumoured that DSA got a virtual base to avoid Easyjet having to put an extra aircraft into LPL that would then affect their growth potential at MAN.

Which is a shame for DSA to get caught up in this, since there is potential there for a based loco now TOM have gone back to just charters. While TOM are great for places like Greece, on routes like Malaga there is room for a low cost airline. And with Jet 2 and Ryanair both happy at LBA to the north and EMA to the south, Easyjet are probably DSA's best hope for large scale growth

Though of course lets not forget nothing has been confirmed about Easyjet's future at DSA yet

If easyjet put new routes or aircraft at there MAN Base do they have to do the same at Liverpool and if so why is this?

Routes - certainly not
Aircraft - there has been rumours that they would have too but how true they are I don't know. It maybe that Easyjet have separate deals with LPL and MAN that requires them to add aircraft at both bases every year

I think easyjet Liverpool base can't been grown any more as Ryanair have a huge pressence there.

There's room for more at LPL, and that's what the new owners want.
As for DSA, new routes is what I keep being told. Who knows!

If this is the case of DSA being expensive, why not just operate W routes from LPL and LTN - which seem to be rather 2nd best at the moment?

You really should not take what MUFC says as gospel. := :ok:

Ryanair have 8 based aircraft and easyJet have 10 (plus one thats flies ex DSA) but they dont have the crews available to fly them.

So 8 based FR and 10 based EZY at LPL, god this is what we can only dream of at BHX!! I know this is pie in the sky but I so wish Easy would consider some W patterns into BHX (or wow even a base?) to help make up for the pathetic FR (4 based) and Baby (3 soon to be 2 based) offerings we are stuck with......it seems strange that EZY seem to have given up on the Midlands, save a seasonal route to GVA. What will it take to get a bit of Orange to grace the runways of Brum? Obviously something that BHX do not have or are prepared to offer!

Yes.

Obviously all the FR are 737-800's and the breakdown of the EZY aircraft is 8*A319, 1*A320 and the chartered in 757-200 of Air Finland.

The pseudo based DSA aircraft is another A319.

Still expensive. For example LTN-FAO-DSA-FAO-LTN would probably require a crew change at DSA. Only shorter routes like AMS could be done on w patterns without a crew change

Can they not do something like they have done in Dortmund?

How can you close it when you haven't opened it yet?

Anyone tought of Beirut?

Ronald Regan did....

RE: DSA........ why does everyone automatically think that nightstopping is an overly expensive way to operate flights? Just to put it into perspective, Easyjet (and other airlines) spend a fortune each day positioning crew in Hallmark cars aswell as overnighting crew to work out of other bases right across the network.

Isn't that an issue of Easyjet's making due to lack of crew. Putting crews in hotels overnight is obviously cheaper than a fully staffed base with no need to move crews between bases

There has always been occasions where crew are required at other bases regardless of the current crewing issues. On occasions I have had to postion and overnight in various bases including LGW and MAD and both with GB and Easyjet. You will see hallmark cars often outside Olympic House (MAN) and other crew rooms with Easyjet/TCX/MON placards in the window. There will always be crewing eventualities that require movement between bases.

That is why Easyjet (and other airlines) have an Hotac (hotel/crew transport) department not to mention for those (relatively few) nightstops which do exist and are planned into the schedule. DTM, DSA, BFS, TXL, MAD etc.

easyJet have planned night stopping crew in .. NCE NAP LIS TLS AGP DSA LYS DTM

LYS base
 

Easyjet will add from early November an extra A319 on Lyon base and will open
- new : PRG / NCE /BES / AGA / MXP
- restart : SXF
- seasonal from 18 december LPL and BRS

from french website (sorry only in frenceh)
easyJet : Brest, Nice, Milan, Berlin, Prague et Agadir au départ de Lyon

MXP-LYS is a very good route, now there is only AirFrance 3x daily with regional plane and very expensive ticket. Train and car are not competitive with 6 hours of travel.

There is also a rumor of new Easyjet MXP-TLS flight