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fl dutchman 15th Jan 2010 11:18

Skyman771.

Good post but a couple of comments. The overall BA figures to LHR seem to suggest a general growth in pax nos over the past months except NOV I think and DEC which was down a little possibly due to weather/threatened strike action. Of course we dont know where these pax are flying onwards to.
I think the numbers to CDG are down mainly as a result of a decrease in frequency by Easyjet. As I understand it the AF figures have gone up slightly, but that is hearsay at the moment.
The removal of the 10am ish AMS I think is the main reason for the pax no decline on that route. It has a detrimental effect on connections. So EK and others probably benefit from this. The official reason it does not fly is " slot restrictions at AMS". I think the load factor for that flight was generally about 90%. As I have said before seems an odd one to cut. However its back for the summer and we shall see what happens.
Of course there is now the Brussels Airlines service with onward connections. It will be interesting to see how that performs.

Dont think an extra EK flight is on the cards just yet but that could change if things pick up dramatically or the BA service goes for whatever reason.

Travel Agent 15th Jan 2010 16:49

Viking are to operate some flights for Kiss Flights for Summer 2010 from Newcastle:

NCL - CFU 2/8 - 4/10 Monday 1540/2100 1100/1235 VIK3013/4

NCL - HER 3/8 - 26/10 Tuesday 1740/2355 1235/1500 VIK3023/4

NCL - RHO 4/8 - 27/10 Wednesday 1820/0050+1 1245/1520 VIK3033/4

CentreFix25 15th Jan 2010 20:20


Dont think an extra EK flight is on the cards just yet
Dead right, i'm sure it'll be a single daily A330 (or equivalent) in 2 years time too. I think things are acceptable as they are now without being fantastic.

I also think some of the posts talking of double daily or 777 upgrade is crazy wishful thinking plane spotter talk.

GrahamK 15th Jan 2010 23:19

CentreFix25, I agree. The A332HD is the perfect plane for the present. Although, I'd assume EK bosses would prefer loads to be higher. (Don't think they've ever been above 75% ave' yet?).

Would be a shame for NCL to lose EK, but as ever its a game of dont use it, lose it.

HH6702 16th Jan 2010 00:15

Viking / kiss flights
 
Great news about the above being added to the list for summer 2010!!!

just have one concern?
Will be able to fill all these extra seats on sale this year to these routes?
Jet2 and now Viking have added the same routes on the same days?

lets hope jet2 are selling fast?

:confused:

Anybody the aircraft being used for VIK?
one good think is that these extra flights only start in aug for the kids holidays

SWBKCB 16th Jan 2010 06:02


Anybody the aircraft being used for VIK?
Announcing a new series of flights in January to start in early August and with three hour turn rounds I would suggest a not very busy one :eek:

sam1993 16th Jan 2010 09:30

All the Viking flights will be operated on W-legs from Gatwick. However, the flight times have changed slightly and are now listed as follows:
Corfu - Mondays - 14.00/19.20 and 11.00/12.35
Heraklion - Tuesdays - 16.30/22.40 and 12.35/15.00
Rhodes - Wednesdays - 16.50/23.20 and 12.45/15.20
so it now seems that the aircraft will spend less time on the ground in Newcastle than was previously planned!

ACARS 16th Jan 2010 11:21


What Reg Is The BMI EMB-145 Based up here doing the Brussels flights?
G-RJXC was the flight yesterday.
20 people on the 1530.

transwede 16th Jan 2010 15:19

Viking Airlines will more than likely use one of their 737-800 aircraft for the new flights, particularly if they are operating as W legs from LGW.

Jamesair 16th Jan 2010 16:36

FLYBE

I understand that the NCL - Guernsey flts are planned at 2 x weekly (if they happen)

Looks like it is happening

Tues dep NCL 0830 arr NCL 1205 from 13th July
Sat dep NCL 1450 arr NCL 1825 from 10th July

HH6702 16th Jan 2010 19:06

flybe / ek
 
Great news from flybe!!

Looks like MAN will get ek A380 from 1st sept.
That spares up a 777 for NCL and
Our A330 will be used to start the DXB-BRS route ??

Let's hoping anyway !!!

andrewmcharlton 16th Jan 2010 19:09

HH6702 - get a grip.

If we can't muster more than 80% LF consistently the chances of a 3 class config 777 is nil.

What is the obsession with this? move along....

HH6702 16th Jan 2010 20:24

ek
 
What about the need for extra room for the cargo

CentreFix25 16th Jan 2010 20:29


That spares up a 777 for NCL
Like I said...


crazy wishful thinking plane spotter talk


Our A330 will be used to start the DXB-BRS route
Missed this one - can you back it up, or is it Air Berlin talk?

757 Speedbrakes 16th Jan 2010 20:40


That spares up a 777 for NCL
Oh no, not again!!!!! :ugh: :rolleyes:

CabinCrewe 16th Jan 2010 20:59

More likely spares aircraft for second daily GLA-DXB

ConstantFlyer 16th Jan 2010 22:43

Let's not forget that Emirates is a global airline. A change of aircraft on the Dubai-Manchester route doesn't mean a spare aircraft for other UK destinations like Newcastle or Glasgow any more than for any other destination around the world. Emirates is opening routes to Prague, Tokyo, Madrid and Amsterdam this year, and may be considering adding extra capacity anywhere on its network. A fourth daily rotation to Shamshabad, perhaps, or a third for Kochi?

ACARS 18th Jan 2010 16:53

SN2188 todat
 
There were only 3 passengers on XC today at 12:05pm. It was like having our own priviate jet. Captain even said "welcome aboard gentlemen".

WATABENCH 18th Jan 2010 17:48

Just an outsiders perspective here, but a few posts on here have said about CDG, BRU and AMS pax figures falling spectaculaly, could this be an EK stranglehold of sorts? Passangers that were using these services for worldwide connections at these hubs, may well of swapped to EK, but this surely has a knock on effect to the local business market for those wishing to do business in europe, especially when it results in KL dropping a rotation? And with figures dropping so drasticly as described, could it not be long until AF drops rotations as well (especially as they are same company as KL) or even SN (as per last post by ACARS 3 Pax on a monday) sure fun to have your own jet as such? but what are the long term implecations of such low loads.
I know its the quiet season its the same all over the country (45 pax on BRS-EWR) down here yesterday apparently, but when you have your bread and butter business routes and airlines losing so much traffic, surely this has to be worrying somebody in the management offices in NCL.

Jamesair 19th Jan 2010 13:24

Thomson have released Winter 10/11...anything new for NCL?


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