Sounds like T3 losing the battle at SOU vs Flybe. Hardly surprising, but a shame, as I use that service fairly regular now.

Will that one frequency be J41, or the S2000 from ABZ?

RTG!

So it was ten years ago when Gill Airways came out of administration and things were looking good for the airline with links to aberdeen, belfast city, dublin and london stansted as well as the paris cdg flight with Air France.

I wonder what the state of play would have been at Newcastle if Gill had survived:

Would the low cost carriers have forced them out?
Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route?
Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair?
Would the they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe?
Would Newcastle be a better position or not?

Would the low cost carriers have forced them out? Yes - Gill couldn't have matched their fares or had the brand recognition (outside the likes of us, nobody knew Gill existed - I know, I twisted those arms...)

Would the low cost carriers have even come to Newcastle if Gill were still here as Go only came once Gill had abandoned the Stansted route? Yes, see above;

Would Gill be flying 737s as they dreamed and become a Jet2 affair? Don't know, but probably not - they didn't have a Channel Express behind them

Would they have swallowed up by the likes of flybe? Probably...

Would Newcastle be a better position or not? I hope so, but probably not

Great questions - is it only 10 years????

Not necessarily. Airlines like Aer Arann, manx2.com and Air Southwest have all secured their niches in parallel with loco operators.
Yes, as Gill probably wouldn't have been perceived as a direct competitor on most loco-friendly routes.
I think not, as there wouldn't have been room in the market. I think they might have tried to develop the 360 and AT7 services as BA regional services faded away.
Not if they had secured their niche - but flybe has certainly since moved into the area of the market that I would have expected Gill to be in if it had survived.

Don't think there's room for a return to the UK market, sadly.

What's the problem at NCL this morning - nothing appears to be moving!!

At a guess, snow! Outside my window 10 miles away its blizzarding now and about 4 inches of new snow overnight.

Happy New Year All,

Living near Newcastle Airport it would appear that as soon as the ploughs clear the main runway and because it is snowing so heavily it just gets covered with snow again and that is before they start on the taxiway!

It certainly seems like the largest drop of snow so far this winter and the most prolonged!

And i'm assuming that under the snow is sheet ice that would have to be removed/de-iced too!

It looks like 'all hands to the pump' but this is a massive snow fall in such a short space of time.

The 0950 METAR shows 400m in snow. It's meant to be affecting northeast England today - it's also snowed at Dublin which has caused that airport to close.

EGNT Closed Snow.

Snow
 

Q) Egpx/qfalc/iv/nbo/a/000/999/5502n00142w005
B) From: 10/01/01 10:58c) To: 10/01/01 12:30

E) Ad Snow Closed

Looks like EGNT has now reopened.

Just one question regarding departing aircraft after a closure, what is the etiquette regarding departures, is it according to their original departure time and the aircraft with the longest delay departs first or does it depend on the aircrafts final destination, length of flight or number of passengers on board?

Surely it's not ten years since Gill emerged from Administration, I would have said it was in 2001. In their hay day, I would say Gill had a lot more behind them than Channel express. If not but for the bank of scotland, where would they be now, who knows?

Ballsout,
Gill went under 20th Sept 2001 at about lunchtime if I remember correctly :(

Knievel77

Really down to who gets the aircraft de-ice rig first! :ok:

ATC usually are not that fussy - within reason they will take who ever calls ready to push (subject to slots of course.) With holdover times being quite short in snowy conditions the operation needs to be well co-ordinated or further delays & costly de-icing will be incurred.
Airlines may make a play for preferrential treatment if crews are nearly out of hours but normally its first ready, is first served.

Thanks CA, which leads to the next question: do the de-icer rigs not go to the longest delayed aircraft first?

I was aware that BA1321 should have been the first departure of the morning but was no where near the front of the queue for departures when the airfield reopened!

That's right bob, I was there. The point was an earlier poster said it was ten years since Gill had emerged from Administration. They had been in administration for a year or so and had only recently emerged from it via a management buy out. Then after sep 11th the Bank of Scotland withdrew their financing forcing the company into recievership.

Gill?? A question too far I think because if Gill were still here then 9/11 would not have happened and the industry would be totally different!

is anyone else having problems with the website at the moment, very slow loading, if at all? It's been a problem for me for a week or 2 now.

ash666
I certainly am, it has been of late the most frustrating site that I have used. Even when home page downloads (eventually !), then it's serious hassle trying to obtain the dynamic links such as arrivals / departures. As I write this then these links are NOT working & really if they can't do any better then best close the site down until they can. Now surely they can not blame the weather for this?:ugh:
If anyone needs flight info then they can save themselves serious hassle by simply using bbc, link below :-
BBC - Wear - Travel - Newcastle Airport arrivals

Didn't know anout the BBC site, thanks.