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ReadyToGo 10th Jan 2010 23:58

Whats the difference in cargo space between an A330 and B777?

At NCL, Emirates makes a lot of money from below the floor, and I am sure that will be a deciding factor on any potential upgrade to 777, and not the need for a First cabin, or extra pax seats!


RTG!

N707ZS 11th Jan 2010 07:53

Will a full 777 be able to clear the high ground when departing from 25?

skyman771 11th Jan 2010 12:53

N707ZS

Will a full 777 be able to clear the high ground when departing from 25?
Abolutely not ! but the definition of "full" on NCL-DXB may be a little more subjective.
For those who want the "full nine yards" sic. on this then I recommend that you pay a visit to http://www.boeing.com/commercial/air...s/777rsec3.pdf where you will find a cure for any insomniac !

Moving on then as to earlier observation as to IFE on EK 330 /340's then it is valid when comparing to EK's most up to date product & superb AVOD product now available on the 772LR's though I have no experience of their 773ER's. But then everything is relative & for those of you who have for years suffered just about every other product that has been on offer by every other airline operating out of NCL then even the A330 is a godsend:D. Albeit the choice is limited but then this really only becomes an issue when one does two or more sectors in the same month and then have the misfortune to suffer similar entertainment bands being selected by flight attendants. My experience of their A342's was also that they looked very tired, though I believe that a program is now in place to up grade the interiors & AVOD. I am unsure as to whether this will progress to the A330's though.

MUFC_fan 11th Jan 2010 13:02


Moving on then as to earlier observation as to IFE on EK 330 /340's then it is valid when comparing to EK's most up to date product & superb AVOD product now available on the 772LR's though I have no experience of their 773ER's.
The 77Ws are being upgraded to match that of the factory new 772LR aircraft.

10 DME ARC 11th Jan 2010 15:56


Is the Newcastle route filling the Business Class cabin? Or in yield terms are leisure travellers calling the tune? Is there scope for a mixed operation (e.g. ATH-DXB has a daily 777 and a 4 x weekly A-330)?
ATH is a straight day return for UAE(EK) crews, you could not do this at NCL as its a night stop.
Could the B772 get off RW25? UAE would not have said they would up grade to it eventually if it could not get in/out!!
A332 IFE, I believe NCL is seeing so many low density a/c due to the fleet being up graded to the ICE IFE system.

postcard 11th Jan 2010 17:45

10 DMEARC NCL Snow/DXB Sun
 
Stop laughing..get the BBQ stoked up for Feb!!

GrahamK 12th Jan 2010 17:59

I notice that from the summer timetable, Lufthansa will be upgrading the morning DUS flight to a CRJ-700. The evening flight remains a CRJ-200.

OltonPete 12th Jan 2010 18:31

LH to DUS
 
GrahamK

There was a press release (German one surprisingly!) stating that
LH are disposing of all the CR2's and I think about 12 CR7's, so
there is a chance the evening one will get upgraded at some point.

However I am not sure of the timescale of their departure but BHX
loses it's CR2's either by 25/1/10 or by the end of the winter schedule. The last time I looked the last CR2 should be 22/1/10 but things always
change with the LH schedules.

However BHX will lose one of its four daily services on 25/1/10
but it does jump to 3 x CR9's eventually from the current mix of
CR2's, CR7's & CR9's.

Hopefully Newcastle will retain both daily services.

Pete

ACARS 12th Jan 2010 19:45

BMI positioning flight?
 
Hello

I flew NCL-BRU on Sunday aftenoon on what I think was the 1st BMI regional flight using the SN flight number.

Does anyone know where the Sunday afternoon departure flight positions from? There is arrival scheduled on a Sunday afternoon, so I am presuming it's a positioning flight that comes in? I didn't get a chance to ask the crew after landing on Sunday.

Very impressed with the EMB145. Although the burn marks at the top of the emergency exit were worrying me at FL310. :mad:

GrahamK 12th Jan 2010 19:53

ACARS, was there many people onboard? Would be interesting to see how well the new frequencies are doing. A much better sized a/c for the route too I would have thought

ACARS 12th Jan 2010 19:54

NCL - BRU future
 
Will be interesting to see how this route works out with 3x per day. Personally I think 2x day is better. 1x per day as with SN just was not working. Never more then 40 people on the Sunday or Monday evening flight out. Maybe with the early morning option we might see a few more people.

Ticket prices went through the roof at the start of the year. They were asking £400-500 for flights in Feb. Fortunately the prices have come down again. I have just booked my Februrary/March flights for <£200 each.

Without this route I am screwed for my job. I hope it's a success.

ACARS 12th Jan 2010 19:57


ACARS, was there many people onboard? Would be interesting to see how well the new frequencies are doing. A much better sized a/c for the route too I would have thought
I counted approx 15 on the Sunday night flight. My mate travelled Monday night but I haven't heard the numbers yet.

I am back on the 1530 on Friday night. Will be interesting to see the numbers. I think the 40-50 normal will be split between the 1530 and 2000hrs departures from BRU.

Earlyriser 12th Jan 2010 20:25

ACARS,

I think the SN flights are been operated by BMI crew Based at LBA so i would Assume the Aircraft postioned up from there.

Deep and fast 12th Jan 2010 21:19

Aircraft and crew will be based in Newcastle. Same for the brs bru wet lease ops

d and f

Robert William 12th Jan 2010 22:02

The aircraft came in from LHR on sunday afternoon.

HH6702 13th Jan 2010 00:45

EK
 
A lot of talk about the EK service and if we are to get upgraded to 777's??

There was a statement issued around september 09 saying that the service had beat all expections and forward bookings were shown good.

There was talk that they would look at upgrading the route to a 777 or adding an extra flight aday with the A330 and they would expect this to take place within the next 18 months if bookings were still up.

im guessing we will see what happens for next summer march 2011?????

I did hear that they have asked the airport to keep the airbridge stand free from 18.30 until 21.00 incase they do start the 2nd flight. not sure if this is still the case??

:ok:

CentreFix25 13th Jan 2010 06:20

Can a 777 with an acceptable load operate the route, thought I read further up the thread that they couldn't?

deltahotel9 13th Jan 2010 12:14

I wondered about the 'acceptable load' too, the statement above said a 'fully loaded' 777 couldn't make it out, I'm guessing fully loaded meant full of fuel and passengers but to Dubai they certainly wouldn't need full fuel load.

skyman771 13th Jan 2010 17:01

Face the facts, a regular nonstop 777 service won't happen! & even if it did I suspect that it would not be long before it created more problems & issues than acceptable. On any given day met conditions could easily be outside of the anticipated performance parameters rendering margins too tight. So you bump pax or freight & see how long it is before bad publicity follows?..... unacceptable !:(

MUFC_fan 13th Jan 2010 17:09


a regular nonstop 777 service won't happen! & even if it did I suspect that it would not be long before it created more problems & issues than acceptable.
:ooh:Contradiction?:bored:


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