According to the Airport Timetable for January 09.... Eastern will be reducing frequency on ABZ from 6 to 5 daily and on SOU from 4 to 3 daily.
Not shown on the Eastern timetables yet.

Eastern
 

Jamesair, you are correct with regards to Eastern. The lunchtime ABZ-NCL-SOU-NCL-ABZ (Saab 2000) has been withdrawn for the Summer, this seems to coincide with the launch of ABZ-OSL (Saab 2000), as the flight times are very similar, so guess its more a case of aircraft put to better use elsewhere.

Kev

Just to start off the new year thread ..

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL !!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Been tod my by girlfriend that the klm flight her dad was supposed to go out on was escorted in by airport emergency services this morning?

Does anyone have anymore information on this?

Thanks

Jamie R

The KLM fokker 100 had a hydraulic failure. It held for a while before making a quality landing. Hats off to the crew.

Thank you (Y):ok:

easyJet have confirmed the twice weekly flight between NCL and MLA. Booking system not showing flights available yet but should be live within the next week. There is an article on the Times of Malta website. Nothing on the EZY or NCL website though.

Just read the Times of Malta article....good news indeed..2x weekly from April

EZY MLA

I would imagine there will be a press announcement this week sometime :ok:.

Will there be more????????????????? :suspect:

Jamier
I know someone who was supposed to be on that flight and missed an onward connection(China Airlines) and, as usual, KLM were less than helpful. They sent her to AMS on the next flight but wouldn't put her on the evening KLM flight to BKK, just talk to the hand. I thought they were obliged to use the quickest route in these cases. She had to find accommodation in Amsterdam.
They put her on today's flight with China and when she checked in they said you don't have a booking for today either, just on the reserve list and no guarantee of getting on. I was doing the reverse trip and was going to meet her briefly at AMS as it is her first long haul but when I phoned to see what was happening she hadn't a clue what part of the airport she was in and, again, trying to talk to KLM was just talk to the hand.
Yet another person whose first trip with KLM is their last. I'm still not sure if she got on.
And as for the NCL to AMS, can they not use all planes that can take standard cabin luggage. What's with all this "you must leave trolley luggage at the bottom of the stairs". What are we supposed to do with laptops, fragile presents we have carefully packed to take to relatives etc??? Pull them all out and have loads of seperate bags bashing all over the lockers???
Definitely the worst airline in the world.

Just flew in this morning from Palma after a three night break, we stood for 39 minutes waiting for our cases, our flight arrived followed by EZY Malaga and KLM Amsterdam - all on the same carousel (number 2), or so we thought, the bags for our Palma flight were actually on number 3, but no informaton was given I just happened to spot mine, and told others I reckonised from the flight!

Newcastle has to be the worst airport for customer service and please get rid of those damn doors in the terminal, I have lost count at how many times have I been stuck there because of impaitent pax, why can't we have normal doors like normal airports?

Rant over!

PS. Good news about Malta.....hopefully see some more expansion to new destinations from EZY.

Baggage handlers probably put the bags up the wrong belt down stairs :D

Not that they care as they have lost jobs through the loss of the contract :E

I don't blame the baggage handlers, it's the fact there is never anyone to be seen from the airline/handling agents at the airport which annoys me lol

The airline have done their job - they have delivered your bags to the airport. If the airport fail to put them on the correct carousel it should be Airport personnel that inform passengers, not the airlines.

Similar story at BRS - although our flight landed at 3am, the only flight there and it took about an hour for our bags.

I agree!! why cant we have normal doors? Domestic arrivals is a NIGHTMARE!!!! 2 trolleys nd a few pax and the doors are full and if u dont keep the pace up the doors stop and its a night mare, ive seen Q's half way down the baggage hall waiting for the doors to open, its stupid! what the matter with normal automatic doors?

Was the NCL-AMS KL booked sperately to the AMS-BKK CI? KLM and CI do not have a partnership, KLM are not obliged to arrange onward transportation from AMS. You take a risk not going KL all the way. I don't see what the problem is here.

Regards

Mike

Easyjet to Malta
 

Heard that there is other new routes also so malta is one
Heard that these flights will be on one of there A320 to be based at ncl
anybody else heard this???

AEULAD

No, all ticketed together so KLM did have responsibility for onward connections. And their attitude!!! I hope they have to fork out serious compensation.
My equivalent outward flight was late coming in and NCL staff said not to worry as they were going to do a quick turnaround. That took them at least 45mins! Is that the quickest NCL can turn around those dinky little planes? Maybe all the staff should be sent abroad on a fact finding mission to learn how other countries can do it in 20mins.

And same old moan about only 2 out of 5 xray machines in use for long queues.

At least passport control has improved.

My thoughts now are ditching NCL totally for long haul and look at train to LHR and a direct flight. Just not prepared to risk KLM any more.

Don't think the average SLF would agree (and they'd be right not to) - they've paid the airline to deliver them and their baggage, not the airport. It's the airlines responsibility to ensure anybody they've got acting for them is doing their job properly.

ash666 bite the bullet and use KLM at DTVA. If we are expected to come up to NCL I am sure you could come down here.

Ian MacFarlane
 

I know there will be a lot of guys on the forum who will be aware that Ian had been fighting a long battle with illness.
I'm sorry to say he lost that fight on Friday evening.

Ian will always be remembered as one of the pioneers of aviation photography at Newcastle Airport since the early 1950's.

He was also one of the founder members of TGAE and Air North,producing the monthly magazines North East Air News and Air North.

His airport career included employment with BKS ,Northeast,British Air Services and British Airways and latterly helping Samson Aviation to establish themselves as the primary executive and light aviation handling agent at the airport.
After leaving Samson he worked for Direct Flight at Prestwick until retirement caught up with him!!

A truly total aviation person.

Ian was one of a kind and will be a sad loss to the aviation world and his many friends.

n707zs

It would be cost prohibitive with petrol and parking to add on. I can get to NCL for not much more than £4 during the day. Ok to get train to LHR as the flights from there are much cheaper. And I would still be left sweating on the KLM connection.

KLM or not?
 

Depending on your destination..try flying Emirates a little more expensive but superior service.Or even BA?

all just as easy from Teesside area.

ash666

Sounds like the ticket was China Airlines issued?. If booked via KL the onward flight would have almost certainly been on a KL code.
However I think it is usual on a through ticket (not seperate bookings) for the first carrier in this case KL, in the event of a missed connection caused by them to re book you on an alternative service. Perhaps the KL to BKK on that day was fully booked and the only option was the China Airlines service the next day,( must have been a busy period if that flight was waitlisted). Or perhaps there was a booking condition/endorsement limiting the onward to China Airlines only. However its dissapointing to hear that the passenger was unhappy with attitudes of KL staff. Was it KL staff at AMS that were the problem?

I never forget turning up at Newcastle Airport for a flight on BA to Heathrow to join a BA Partner Airline (Royal Jordanian) to Jordan.

Due to bad weather in London all domestic flights were cancelled and although they could still get me to Jordan that day via either Paris or Amsterdam they refused saying that fare was more expensive than my current one.

They quite simply said 'get the train to London' knowing fine well i'd still miss my connecting flight or travel the next day.........and that was it!!!!!

Thankyou BA!!!!! NOT!!!!

If you fly NCL to BKK it is China Airlines(CI) that ticket it all, they say they give you a "free" connecting flight to AMS though I am sure it is built into the price as CI is now a lot more expensive than Emirates. I haven't had a chance to have a long conversation with the person(not on a mobile abroad!) but I don't think the was happy with KLM staff at NCL but at AMS they were a lot worse. I have had this myself when I was in transit at BKK in the days when I used KLM all the time and got to the transit desk and got told that the plane(which I had re-confirmed) was full and I wasn't on it. I got stuck on a reserve list. When I complained at AMS they just laughed in my face! They said,"off course we overbook otherwise we would have empty seats". I would think that an empty plane would be a good thing if the seats had been paid for. Imagine getting home one night and finding an estate agent had sold your house(that wasn't on the market) and you now had no house and nowhere to live. I've never flown long haul with KLM again.

highwideandugly
I tried Emirates from NCL in August and didn't enjoy it(long post on the closed thread), mostly with having to wander around Dubai airport for 3 hrs when it should be sleep time and arriving like a zombie.

"if you book NCL-BKK it is China Airlines that ticket it all" Yes if you book with China Airlines.

If you book NCL- BKK via BA(LHR) they issue the tickets, just as KL issue the tickets if you book with KL.

Always best to book the same carrier for the entire journey. Less risk of problems.

Most airlines except the LOCOS I think overbook flights. Its normal practice.

Postcard, Thanks for your post. I have not seen Ian for a couple of years and didn't know he was unwell. I am sure there will be others like me.
A sad loss of another man who lived for aviation. RIP Ian.

I think you will find the airline will deliver the passenger and the baggage to the destination shown on the ticket, in this case Newcastle Airport. Therefore, it is not the airlines responsibility if the airport fails to deliver the bags on to the belt on time (or correct belt)

I agree that SLF would probably not agree with the above but this is where it comes down to the point that passengers know very little as they do not read the terms and conditions :ok:

Regardless of who was at fault, it is a situation experienced at many airports and I am quite confident not unique to NCL

Easyjet
 

Its offical- Easyjet have Newcastle - Malta on thier booking system twice weekly

EZY Malta route flies on Mon and Fri from 22nd May 2009 ...Mon dep NCL 1300 arr NCL 2115.........Fri dep NCL 1735 arr NCL 0150 (sat)

Channex 101
 

I know hun, I've missed the bus twice now as no one can be bothered to fix the door by closest to the stop........ and yes I did run!

It just adds to all the small 'little pains in the a**e' that make your job just a little more tiring , especially when your on min rest!

For example:

*Car park 5,000 miles away, when there are others closer unused!

*Doors that revolve at the same speed as the Earth, if they work at all!

*Lifts slower than an old Skoda

*Secruity measures that are now tighter then anywhere else, including Manchester!! Why do we have to remove belts, shoes, seperate liquids etc etc when no other airport does this and still no seperate staff channel??

Sorry I'm still ranting, there's a pint in it for whoever can get the above sorted!! :ok:

*Secruity measures that are now tighter then anywhere else, including Manchester!! Why do we have to remove belts, shoes, seperate liquids etc etc when no other airport does this and still no seperate staff channel??


And what annoys me is having done all this at NCL and still airside in transit, we have to do it all again at foreign gates. Surely 1 lot of xrays per flight is enough.

Security measures......I have to do all of the above everytime I fly from LHR and GTW...these are Govt regulations.

The only time you have to do it twice at NCL is if your traveling to SFB. On no other foreign flights do you get searched twice.

NO, I meant foreign gates, as in abroad. IE I get checked at ncl and then again at the gate at AMS(or wherever), never having gone landside.
Some airports are worse, you have to go through xrays getting into the airport, then to go airside, then at the gate, all the time my laptop is having to be taken out and put back in my hand luggage.
Last time I got a bottle of water at ncl(airside) and took it on the plane quite happily. It was taken off me at AMS. It all drives me crackers, and in all honesty most of it is for show. If a terrorist wants to blow up a plane he will and there is very little we can do about it. They know all the rules and searches as well as we do.

I was searched 3 times at Glasgow Airport before boarding the plane and undoubtedly left my car keys in the tray at one of the security checks..........so after having to get a hire car back to Newcastle, waiting for Alfa to deliver a set of keys and paying for them, another hire car back to Glasgow and then a 10 day NCP Airport parking charge there was very little change out of £1000........i'm sure there is a moral to the story somewhere!!!!:ugh:

EZY MLA officially announced today on the news :D

ASH

For heavens sake don't say that to a security agent!! :oh:

Unfortunately, until the government issue a firm set of guidelines and don't allow other airports to make up their own additional rules it will remain a mess.

In a que for security at LGW the other week I heard the passengers in front discussing if they had to remove shoes, or remove belts and that in Germany they did one system and in Spain they do nothing at all etc etc.

Why can't have a common system in all EU countries and a common airside pass or at least, a common UK airside pass for staff?? :ugh:

I'm sure this has been discussed at lenth on other forums and is a common topic in publications by BALPA and CHIRP etc.

757
No, I just smile sweetly(usually, tho' when they took water off me at AMS that had already been ok'd I passed a comment about them getting a nice stock of Xmas presents!). I don't want to give the jobsworths any reason to mess up my much loved holidays.