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DL93 9th Jan 2009 11:48

It was a tragic loss of life, I feel asking questions about it on a rumour network is highly inappropriate,

KNIEVEL77 9th Jan 2009 11:52

DL93,

The post concerned has been removed however TV and Radio news programmes have been running the story all morning.

K77.

andrewmcharlton 9th Jan 2009 11:57

Given that it is an aviation forum and sadly loss of life is regularly discussed it's not inappropriate as long as no sensitive or personal details are disclosed. It will be on Look North before long and in the public domain if not already so not exactly classified data. Just be careful not to include names or details not appropriate thats all, common sense.

BALLSOUT 9th Jan 2009 12:41

What has happened then?

andrewmcharlton 9th Jan 2009 13:07

As per BBC:

BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Worker dies at Newcastle airport


A worker has died following an accident at Newcastle Airport.
The 50-year-old, who has not been named, was working on the apron - the area where aircraft is refuelled or boarded - when the accident happened.
An investigation is being carried out by Northumbria Police and the Health and Safety Executive.
A spokesperson for Newcastle International Airport said flights were operating as normal following the incident early on Friday.
The airport has said it will cooperate fully with the investigation.

urdy gurdy 11th Jan 2009 11:17

i disagree its totally inapropriate, its just people spreading rumours, which, when you hear as many as i do everyday, are blown out of proportion. The only the thing that should be said is paying respect, and sending thoughts to the family.
God bless
Thinking of all who were affected by this tragedy.

andrewmcharlton 11th Jan 2009 11:30

Urdy,

Nobody has spread any rumours or posted anything which is not in the public domain.

It is a tragic accident and I am sure everyone sends their condolences to those affected by this.

Regrettably, these things are newsworthy and not even mentioning it is an over reaction. Fatal accidents are discussed on PPRUNE every signle day and it's about retaining tact and decency and not disclosing private, personal or confidential information.

TUGNBAR 11th Jan 2009 13:35

Just to quote part of the PPRUNE' statement - "Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives"

Speculation is happening at airports and it will only be a matter of time before someone posts " A RUMOUR", so if it is left for a rumour monger, this thread will be blown all out of proportion should that rumour be inaccurate.

A tragic loss of life has happened and my sincere condolences along with every other airport worker Im sure go out to this gentlemans family and loved ones.

urdy gurdy 14th Jan 2009 14:59

point taken Mr Charlton. As long as it all stays decent

Tom the Tenor 14th Jan 2009 15:22

Happy New Year to all the folk in the Newcastle area.

How is the Emirates flight doing to Dubai these times and are there any long haul charter series to Florida or Mexico, or the Caribean areas for next summer ex Newcastle?

Has Newcastle always been at 2,333 metres or was there an extension at some point?

Thanks. Long live the LS535/6 to Cork!

transwede 14th Jan 2009 18:12

2009 greetings TOM

From recent press releases and airport chit chat the EK service is doing well, can't rember the exact load factors!! Cargo is showing good growth and many services during weekends are fully booked, business class is very promising. Many pax are using the service for connecting flights.

In terms of long haul charters the following will operate this summer:
  • Thomson Airways 767-300ER to SFB and CUN (via MAN for fuel)
  • Monarch Airlines A330 to SFB
  • Air Transat A310 to YYZ

This totals 4 weekly flights, less than last summer as we have lost the MON charters to POP and CUN and also Thomson dropped their PUJ service :*

In terms of runway length, no extension made (I think) and the likes of EK and MON have no problem in lifting off with fully laiden A330 aircraft. Not entirely sure why TOM and their 767 stop off for fuel - thought it had the range?!

GrahamK 15th Jan 2009 07:40

Hi, the MON A332 had no problems getting to SFB and POP, but when doing CUN had to stop off at POP.
The TOM 763 does have the range to do CUn nonstop, but the problem is NCL's runway - it just isn't long enough. The 787, when it comes, should change all this though (apparently) :ok:

DL93 15th Jan 2009 12:01

flybe mayday this morning..... any more info?

nclops 15th Jan 2009 13:17

BE7291 ABZ-LGW E195 GFBEH smoke in galley. A/C landed ok and towed to stand after inspection by fire service. New A/C positioned in to take pax to LGW.

AAIB arrived this afternoon to inspect the aircraft.

Ops Guy 15th Jan 2009 15:31

[QUOTEHas Newcastle always been at 2,333 metres or was there an extension at some point?][/QUOTE]

Still remains at 2329 x 46 despite the current work in progress. :ok:

DL93 15th Jan 2009 15:53

ncl ops- thanks for the info :)

do you know any think about the runway lights this morning

HH6702 15th Jan 2009 19:25

JET2 going long haul fo summer 09
 
after the sucess of leeds to new york jet2 are looking at expanding there range of long haul flights from uk airports for summer 2009

wonder if ncl will get the new york link now!! sorry to bring it up again

source: airlinerworld

CentreFix25 15th Jan 2009 20:07

The economy doing whats it's doing, I wouldn't have thought so.

757 Speedbrakes 15th Jan 2009 20:15


wonder if ncl will get the new york link now!! sorry to bring it up again
I mentioned on a Jet2 thread today that thay have just announced Tel Aviv from Manchester :ok:

Don't think we'll see any new routes from Jet2 at NCL to Summer 2010.

Still waiting to hear if there will be 2 x 757's for S'09 but don't think there will be enough capacity at MAN and LBA to free up an extra one. :(

Tom the Tenor 16th Jan 2009 00:00

Thanks for the update, Transwede. Good to know what the summer plans are like. Hope the EK continues to do well. As for Jet2 & New York it sounds like a good idea to me - well established airline with the right aeroplane for the job. Should easily work on about three or four days a week given the right circumstances if there is any lift at all in our economies. Send two out via Cork! ;)

No harm in dreaming.

What a feat by the U S Airways crew in New York! Wow!

Jamesair 16th Jan 2009 17:01

Looking at the Eastern timetable, I see that ABZ has reduced to 5 daily as forecast but SOU continues at 4 daily. (not reduced to 3 as expected).

Emirates pax fell 2% in December at 11,129 which is still very good.

macuser 17th Jan 2009 08:10

Emirates loads
 
Just booked for a Dubai flight in Feb. On selecting seats - not many spaces left.

ash666 19th Jan 2009 15:47

Nothing out of the ordinary there.
Welcome to NCL!

Delta 8 19th Jan 2009 17:18

I would expect this would have been down to staff shortage due to Gate taking over the handling of Easy from Wed. Still not acceptable to be waiting over an hour for baggage, the flight time was probably shorter. :(

CentreFix25 19th Jan 2009 18:23

I assume Servisair staff have jumped ship to Gate and not been replaced, and since they have lost the contract Servisair probably dont give a toss.

apaul 19th Jan 2009 18:43

In my experience the baggage handling at NCL is often much worse in the evening. Presumably they don't employ enough handlers for this shift plus they've no pressure to turn the aircraft round as it's the last flight of the day. The airport management seem happy to let their passengers stew while raking in extra parking charges from the cars waiting in the pick-up area. Last May I was about 40 minutes early coming back from Verona but it took longer than that to unload a half-full B737. Earlier in the day they are often much better. Last Sunday afternoon I was 20mins early coming back from Bristol and the bags came through after about 10 minutes even though the aircraft was parked out in the countryside. Bristol Airport is also pretty efficient, but you have wait in an elongated bus-shelter before boarding. Also some of their charges are worse than elsewhere - £1 non-returnable for a luggage trolley and £1.90 extra to pay for parking with a credit card.

HH6702 20th Jan 2009 13:33

Airport summer 09 timetable
 
4th ed on website a few changes

Robert William 20th Jan 2009 23:05

Again Servisair didnt loose the contract, notice was given to EasyJet,

GayFriendly 21st Jan 2009 05:22


Just booked for a Dubai flight in Feb. On selecting seats - not many spaces left
I was told that EK don't release all seats on a flight for selection on their website, they hold back quite a few for those who check in on the day and other 'special' pax so the fact there are not many seats to select doesn't really tell you how full the flight will be - I booked BHX-DXB-MCT last Feb for travel in Aug, very few seats available for selection when I booked, flight from BHX was only just over half full on the day I travelled! :)

urdy gurdy 22nd Jan 2009 09:19

Jet2 long haul? it wasn't that long ago they were offering very reduced holidays on longhaul to staff to fill the aircraft.
long wait for bags - i know pax who have flew in from europe and waited longer for there bags than they spent on the aircraft.
:oh:

ash666 22nd Jan 2009 11:21

my ears are burning.

maxtoon 28th Jan 2009 15:45

The new airport hotel certainly seems to be coming along nicely ..

does anyone know which hotel chain it's gonna be ??

chris1001 28th Jan 2009 20:42

I hear it was going to be Ramada.

Can the airport do anything about the Britannia Hotel - very poor image at the gateway to the airport. Would have thought a Radisson SAS would be interested in the Ramada plot.

northumberlandairway 31st Jan 2009 11:28

EZY routes
 
Before Malta was announced as the newest Easyjet route there was a definite feeling that there would be more than one new destination. Now that we know that Malta is to be served twice a week, has anyone done an analysis of the planes' scheduled movements to see if there is room for any more development?

As we were expecting more and it seems that the East European flights are being taken off the schedule I assume that easyjet are not leaving planes lying around doing nothing.

Jamesair 31st Jan 2009 17:34

Eastern have dropped two flights a week from the middle rotation to Cardiff.

fl dutchman 1st Feb 2009 10:48

There does seems to be a lot of Easyjet planes "lying around " this winter, but that tends to happen in the winter, but not as much as is happening now. Is there still 5 aircraft based? as the schedule looks like 3 could cope at the moment on most days.
Would be surprised if it continues during the summer though. Is it not to be 6 based aircraft this summer, with increased frequency to the sunshine routes, compensating for the lack of PRG and KRK, and reduced frequncy to STN. Would be surprised to see more new routes at this time but you never know.
Strange that several "tour operators" (Readers holidays as recent as today) are advertising deals to both Prague and Krakow using Easyjet from NCL this coming summer??


Noticed that Flybe has dropped some flights recently. For example most weekdays down to 3 x daily to LGW and on some weekdays just 2 have opperated instead of the normal 4.
Although I understand 4x daily is to be restored with better timings in the next few weeks.
Also noticed Exeter just once daily, thought it was planned for 2?, and Belfast City once daily.

SWBKCB 1st Feb 2009 11:03

Definetly 5 EZY based at the moment (2 319 and 3 737) - at least they do more flying than LS!

Cloud1 1st Feb 2009 11:54

NCL-EXT has been once daily for sometime now (winter anyway) and some days not operating at all. Returns to twice daily (for 2 days of the week) in the summer rest is only once daily.......not enough people or just poor timings for business passengers? My theory - the latter.

NCL-LGW is 4 times a daily but only 3 days a week. The rest is a combination of 2 or 3 daily. (summer)

NCL-BHD twice daily (2 days a week) the rest only once daily (summer)

I assume a lot of these changes are a combination of low pax demand and to allow for additional services to summer routes JER and the weekly LIG

fl dutchman 1st Feb 2009 16:50

Looking at FlyBe again (weekdays only). The 4x daily LGW resumes soon(within the next few weeks with much better timings) and continues throught the summer except from mid July to the end of August when the 9.30 ish departure does not operate on Tue and Wed only. So its only during the School hols its reduced on two days a week presumably fewer business pax during this period.

They must have 2 A/c based at NCL from April as the Southampton originates from NCL from then. Although was there not 2 based until recently before they finished the 2 early deps to LGW.

Shame about Exeter, the pax nos on this route have been good but have dropped off significantly since the schedules changed. Although its still daily with 2 daily on Mons and Fri from April ( as per Cloud 1). I think.

sunshine79 2nd Feb 2009 07:58

I noticed the LS ACE flight is stuck downroute, has it gone tech?


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