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skyman771 12th Mar 2012 13:58

HH6702

Get real......
Unsure where you are coming from, as you clearly have totally missed the point which is that Southend have achieved route timing on their DUB schedules that actually fit in with timings on transatlatic connections and are able to codeshare and are MARKETING these as such.
This is something that has never been achieved at NCL even though as you quite correctly state

We have had a Dublin service for years now
as to whether DUB has a 100 or 1,000 seats daily is also of NO RELEVANCE, as has little else in your outburst !

Travel Agent 12th Mar 2012 16:16

When I worked at Lunn Poly in the early 90's we used to sell shed loads of EI tickets from NCL all over the States and Canada, I am sure it would work again if the timings were right and connections not too bad....

Jamesair 12th Mar 2012 16:34

Aer Lingus have had several attempts at offering a service between NCL and Dublin, the last attempt made no attempt at a USA/Canada connection vis-a-vis timings. All attempts have usually been swamped by Ryanair and led to a withdrawal of service.

Travel Agent 12th Mar 2012 16:45

That was my point needs the right timings but it would also need a good marketing push behind it too, both to the public and the trade.

skyman771 12th Mar 2012 16:59


the last attempt made no attempt at a USA/Canada connection vis-a-vis timings
My point precisely, it is only the Irish who can offer a connection that was timed to depart several hours before the connecting flight arrived. ;)
Then they wonder why NCL-DUB-NCL was not as successful as they would wish:sad:

If as NCL claim then there is / was a market for NCL - NYC then there was a market NCL-DUB-NYC...... Yes ???:suspect:

EI-A330-300 12th Mar 2012 17:05


My point precisely, it is only the Irish who can offer a connection that was timed to depart several hours before the connecting flight arrived. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif
Then they wonder why NCL-DUB-NCL was not as successful as they would wishhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...y_dog_eyes.gif

Aer Lingus had there A320 on the route and they were up aginst Ryanair, an ATR 42 or 72 would work. BRS is an example of this.

EI didn't look connecting passengers at DUB from the UK until EI regional started in March 2010.

SWBKCB 12th Mar 2012 17:39


EI didn't look connecting passengers at DUB from the UK until EI regional started in March 2010.
No - as has been discussed previously on this thread, EI did promote their US routes from NCL (and presumably other UK regional airports) back in the days when they were operating Fk.50's. I presume RYR's arrival on the Dublin route forced them out and I would imagine the same the presence of RYR would stop them trying again.

HH6702 12th Mar 2012 22:21

EI / FR
 
Could Aer lingus really make any money on offering flights from NCL-DUB then connecting onto the NEW YORK route??
Can they compete with the likes of KLM/AF on price and times etc?

They would have to have a ATR leaving NCL early morning and then another flight at lunchtime for passengers arriving back...

I dont think we can compare Aer Lingus and Ryanair on the NCL route as they were targeting different markets...

Im sure maybe Aer Lingus may look back into NCL on day...

Southend would have been picked over NCL as there is no competitor on the route NCL is different.

Remember before the TAX came in and Ryanair dropped back to 1x daily the plan was to go to 3x daily NCL-DUB

North West 12th Mar 2012 22:54


My point precisely, it is only the Irish who can offer a connection that was timed to depart several hours before the connecting flight arrived. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif
Then they wonder why NCL-DUB-NCL was not as successful as they would wishhttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...y_dog_eyes.gif

If as NCL claim then there is / was a market for NCL - NYC then there was a market NCL-DUB-NYC...... Yes ???http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/cwm13.gif
No. NCL claim there is a market for services OVER a NYC hub, to points into the US, Canada and the Carribean. There will be some point to point traffic into NYC, but its just like the way NCL - DXB isn't really about a market between NCL and DXB.

Aer Lingus are not a viable option seeing as NCL-DUB-NYC-XXX puts a 2 stop option - with limited connectivity - into a market already served well by BA with a NCL-LHR-XXX option - at least for the major US destinations.

Jamesair 14th Mar 2012 23:28

FEBRUARY PAX FIGURES
 
Some fairly good increases for February.

Brussels 3533 +8%
Dusseldorf 3097 +5%
Cork 1532 +19%
Dublin 12,564 +18%
Amsterdam 19,870 +13%
Stavanger 1948 +72%

Gatwick 6126 +2%
Heathrow 39,067 +11%
BFS City 2841 +4%
BFS INT 15,867 +2%
Cardiff 1201 +24%
Southampton 6438 +4%

Dubai 13,239 - 1%

JKKne 15th Mar 2012 00:31

Re - Mistral Air - Is that the same Italian airline the Holy See use?

Love smallplanet livery. Wonderful looking aircraft

HH6702 23rd Mar 2012 18:32

Easyjet Winter 2012/3
 
Just been looking through the flights and have noticed that NCL-CDG is no longer on sale after october 2012.

Paris flights are on sale for other airports.

Lets hope this doesnt mean the futher reduction of flights for next winter and down to just 2 aircraft??

Hopefully the A320 will arrive this weekend?

Anybody heard any news on new routes etc been quiet lately

CentreFix25 23rd Mar 2012 19:03

I don't think EZY has a great deal of commitment to NCL. Replacing a 19 with a 20 isn't a massive business decision, although the media hype they created would lead Joe public to believe otherwise - just a PR/selling seats tactic.

They'll stick to their bigger money making routes to the Med, If they did Seasonal bases I bet we'd be one.

Sam Chipperfield 23rd Mar 2012 19:05

Newcastle
 
Easyjet A320 coming starts in May, could that mean maybe 4 a Day from Air France/Cityjet? there has been alot of Military movements

fa2fi 23rd Mar 2012 21:07

Bit concerning about CDG. But I've not heard anything official. People do want more routes, but if the flights are full and we're making money then there is no need to add routes if it's possible to get good ROI on the current routes and would save the costs involved in opening a new route. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Rumours of new routes were around when the 320 was announced but it's became clearer now that it's just there to increase capacity.

Jamesair 25th Mar 2012 00:07

EASYJET WINTER
 
PARIS (CDG) is mentioned in the airport press release about Easyjet winter timetable as one of the routes to be operated.

cjags 25th Mar 2012 12:58

EZY 320 will arrive for flights beginning 27th April

Sam Chipperfield 25th Mar 2012 17:11

Easyjet
 
Was A Easyjet A319 Diverted In Today, G-EZFX From Tallin Was Scheduled To Go To Stansted, Flight Radar 24 Reports Emergency

KNIEVEL77 25th Mar 2012 17:39

Sam,

I believe there was a medical emergency today on board an arriving EZY flight, this may have been the divert.

K77.

skyman771 25th Mar 2012 20:05

CentreFix25

I don't think EZY has a great deal of commitment to NCL.
For clarity I understand that the EZY crew at NCL have received no indication that EZY's present operation's out of NCL are to change significantly, now or in the near future.
Is your assessment based on anything other than your personal opinion?


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