I agree I don't think they'll go anywhere for now but I disagree that they won't be missed. NCL is one of the most expensive regional airports to fly from with carriers expecting far higher cost per seat fares than from other regionals, EZY although is cashing in on this, its to a far lesser extent than LS. Compare LS fares from Leeds or Manchester to basic med / European routes against those offered by the same carrier from NCL, there is a massive price difference. This is not a case of yeilds / seats sold, the launch prices are totally different too with far less true low cost seats available from the outset from NCL. |
^ But LS have only operated from NCL since 2005/six years. So how can this be true?
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In simple terms the point I am making is that it is typically cheaper to fly from another regional airport to a given destination than it is to fly from NCL. Costs per seat are higher from NCL than from other comparable regional airports.
Also in my experience EZY are in general cheaper than LS, although on certain dates I'm sure we could find examples both proving and disproving the point. |
But LS have only operated from NCL since 2005/six years. So how can this be true? In simple terms the point I am making is that it is typically cheaper to fly from another regional airport... |
Neil 2008,
I completely agree. The price differential at times between Newcastle and other regionals on similar routes and timings with the same airline can be breathtaking (same for package holidays as well). In EZY's case, when you start comparing fares ex NCL with Stansted or Luton, it can be astonishing. I've also noticed that there can be a lot more of "sideways" promotions for the ex London flights (eg free ski carriage, etc,.). It would not be the first time that 2 or 3 of us have found it £100's of pounds cheaper to drive down to Luton or STN for a return GVA than direct from NCL, and with a greater choice of convenient flight times. |
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why is it then that Newcastle fares are higher than other regional airports? Is it just down to less competition in Newcastle, or because we are more isolated region, airlines feel that we will pay for money to fly locally than travelling else where in the country? Or even both factors?
Or does Newcastle just have the highest fees and charges compared to other regional airports. |
Indeed, out of say 12 foreign trips this year I am doing only 2 from NCL, despite being only 7 or 8 miles from the airport. I will use LPL, MAN, DSA, LBA and LGW this year and on at least 2/3 occasions the same route is available from NCL.
You would expect London airports to be cheaper due to competition and number of users however I can't understand how LS seem to be able to charge what they do from NCL when its fraction of what they are charging flying the same routes from EDI and LBA. |
New York, New York...
Amazed nobodies picked this up!
Newcastle Airport bosses in Big Apple link talks - Business News - News - nebusiness.co.uk |
hmm ... not this again!
I'd rather wait till any NYC deal is done and dusted rather than speculate .. |
hmm ... not this again! |
Nothing more than spin and dreaming.....not sure the use of the words "crash and burn" works too well from a PR stand point !
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NYC?? Why all the sarcastic comments?! NYC fits the profile as a west bound hub just like Dubai did for East bound. It wins as a tourist destination, as DXB is, and a one stop hub to destinations that presently take two stops or more! You only have to look at the amount of people travelling via AMS/CDG/LHR/LGW or driving to MAN/EDI/GLA daily!
Ye small minded people!! Who would have predicted 90% load factors to DXB! |
If demand wasn't there, then I doubt they would be wasting their's and an airlines time in trying to secure a route. As the article states, it got to the point where slots were applied for so clearly the demand was there back then.
As 10 DME correctly says, "Who would have predicted 90% load factors to DXB". Watch this space :E |
New York
Time again to discuss this one.
While I wish the Newcastle team well in meetings with the 'unnamed US airline', this has to be Continental? I would be very suprised to see the team come back with news of a new route to NYC. Too many factors against this at the moment, the state of both the UK and US economy, APD, oil cost etc. Of these APD is of particular concern especially given what the Scottish Govt are trying to get approval for. |
Near the height of the boom ,AA withdraw. Now, deep international recession- CO from NCL ( after their withdrawal from BRS, BFS on the brink, GLA/EDI winter reductions) - I wouldnt have thought so.
Almost as unlikely as the recent CWL press speculation. EK westbound to DXB is a different kettle of fish entirely and most of those routes ex UK have plateaud or declined past few months with NCL not being at the top of the bunch. Watch this space..... Yes, maybe in a decade..... :rolleyes: |
cosmos
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CabinCrewe
Ref NYC.. Well said! :D Glad to see that we are all not dreamers, This has been ongoing for about same time span as that since NUFC won any silverware. Reality is that we'll see neither in the forseeable future !!:{ Perhaps we would all waste less time in discussing "Comos's future plans" as noted by "Potash";) |
Any expansion will be good.
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Cosmos holidays from Newcastle to CFU and ZTH, operated by TCX.
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NYC - as previously stated by myself I cant see this route anytime soon. The rumour is that the unknown airline the airport are having discussions with is Delta which if true makes little sense given route reductions this winter to other European destinations by Delta
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