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Very sad to see that the moderators had to step into the last thred for Flyglobespan.....Can I beg everyone to have a little thought before slicking the 'submit' button. Nobody wants to lose the GSM thread!!!

Lets try and be positive and constructive please, and leave all the unsubstantiated gossip at the door- Thanks.

Whats da story with the winter fights bfs- sfb gone for good or is the website playing up???

And the GLA-SFB is down to 1 per week now.... Looks like BFS could be dropped for the winter.

I guess the 757 has something better to do..............BHX- Amritsar?? Maybe the SFB will be on a 737 this winter?? Hope not, cos that's still my favourite destination!

LJ

BFS winter 08 SFB flight not operating. Only a direct flight weekly to SFB from GLA on the B752.

The BFS flight for S09 is a full direct flight weekly on Fridays. More capacity added for S09. GLA 6 weekly on B763ER for S09.

will the S09 GLA-SFB see a B763 with a refitted/updated cabin ?

No. Think 90's style, think ex ANZ

Afterdark

Yes it will. Regardless of which aircraft it is ('OD or 'PT). 'FG has had a complete cabin re-furb' but that'll be tied up on the Falklands Islands run from the mid-late October.

'PT is due in for it's full re-furb' over the winter.

'OD is having it's re-furb' in GAMCO at Abu Dhabi when it finishes its stint with Air Callin.

I hope that helps.
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why is bfs cancelled ? any time i went the numbers looked good and what about the pax booked before the flight was dropped? glad ei are on the route its the only direct flight now from irl

Panorama Holidays in Ireland still have a Friday flight from Dublin to Orlando Sanford (Monarch this year but 2009 is TBA). Plus Thomas Cook Airlines have a weekly flight from Belfast in the Summer with Airtours.

Dont forget Aer lingus 3 times a week to Orlando International from Dublin and they are having a sale to the USA this week. :ok:

Any idea what happened to the BCN to EDI yesterday? Was due to go at 13:25 but my colleague was still at BCN at 21:00 waiting to be put on the BCN to GLA flight along with 30 other pax. Haven't heard from her yet but I hope GSM did the decent thing and shipped them all back to EDI:hmm:

Thanks Gaz, at least I now know they laid transport on. Well done GSM:ok:

I for one have not come across an airline called "Chilean Airways".
Now LAN on the other hand yes, now does the reporter mean an airline in Chile?
On the other hand don't FGS only have 2 B737-300s?

Futura used to send 737s down to Chile in the winter I wonder if Globespan has jumped into the hole in the market.

Looks like the 733s will be going to Chile for W08, and another 2 A/C going for 2 months from January, maybe the Omanair A/C when it returns.

GSM must be keeping the 733s and leasing them out.

If the 733's are being kept surely a MME schedule must be due to be released soon! :ok: Fingers crossed it would be a shame for them to leave MME!
I would assume its probable that JP will be going to Chillie for 2 months acompanied by another.

W08 requirement for A/C as it stands:

EDI - 2 A/C - 1 B73G and B73H
GLA - 4 A/C - 3 B73Hs, B752ER (SFB)
ABZ - 1 A/C - B73G

Fleet:
2 B733, 4 B73H (1 in Oman), 1 B736

Hmm so there isn't an a/c that would make it 2 to go to chillie for 2 months.

Im confused as to how these India flights are working, are GSM operating the flights for Monarch who in turn are operating the flights for Bilga Air?

Anybody know if this 752 will have GSM colours?

Birmingham- Amritsar
 

These flights are to operate three times weekly
Tuesday,Friday and Saturday on behalf of travel agent Royal Atlantic of Smethwick (West Midlands). There is no connection with Bilga Air flights, which were to have been operated by Monarch Airlines but have now been cancelled.

I take it there are no plans to get the 752 ETOPS instead of going via Bangor?
Anythin on MME?

4567 even with ETOPs more often than not the B757 will need to refuel in Bangor. Only with occasionally favourable winds and a light load will the direct flight to Florida be filed.

ETOPS
 

Already got 180 min ETOPS on the 757, same as the 767

Skipness said;
Out of interest, has a 757 ever managed Glasgow - Orlando without a fuel stop and if so, how light was the load?

Air 2000 used to occasionally do GLA-MCO direct in the 1990s when they flew to Orlando. The return flight often operated direct due to more favourable winds.

Porrohman

Yes. I did one. I think the load was about 50-60 pax outbound from GLA-SFB but we were full back (180 pax/ 2 class config.) & made it both ways non-stop with no problems.

I flew a few B757 Trans Atlantic trips with AMM/FCA & while virtually all westbound flights tech stopped in Bangor, Maine, you needed a certain set of criteria to enable a non-stop return sector. At the pre flight planning stage in MCO/SFB as a rule of thumb you needed a ZFM of around 78 Tonnes & a 25kt tailwind component.

GSM's 757 even when full is around 75 Tonnes ZFM so needs a lower tailwind component in order to make the eastbound sector non-stop.

It's a remarkably versatile machine that a B738 or-9 could never match.
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Yes, Oli',

I think 'OD will be GLA based operating the SFB (1x weekly away Mon-Weds) with the rest of the week covering 'PT in the eventuality of it having to go to the hangar for a scheduled check or any general 'techness'.

'OD should be coming back from Air Callin at the end of November straight into a re-fit and/or sched'd maintenance, then as above.

'PT is operating the MPA run until 'FG is released after it's heavy check, then heads away somewhere.

I hope this helps.
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Rumour Control - Luton is talking about services from LTN to Canada in summer 09. Is this a new GSM flight to YHM?

Amritsar
 

Must say i am really suprised that BHX - Amritsar is bookable on the airline web site.

Would have thought it would have been travel agents on a charter.


Centre cities

I know i thought it was just on behalf of a tour operator not being bookble on there website.

Well hopefully GSM have got links with Indian community travel agents for the majority of sales and they are selling seats themselves as a secondary distribution channel. But without links to the Indian community cant see the route working with no brand awareness at either end of the route

Cardiff
 

With GSM announcing their new CWL-YHM flights, I assume at BRS loss, would GSM ever consider a CWL-SFB route for Summer 2009 - with the loss of XL Airways and Monarch for Summer 2009 there is an obvious market from South Wales.

GSM have introduced a different Airport for YHM each year. As load factors are high, it would seem that the route goes to the airport offering the greatest incentive. Maybe CWL needed a Zoom replacement???

From previous years experience, I wouldn't be surprised if this to be the only route for CWL this year, and maybe the only year it is operated!

What are the AEU/ATQ flights and whats went wrong with them Gaz?

I see KT'S parked up on a remote stand at GLA anybody know whats happening with it?

What are the AEU/ATQ and whats the problem?

I think GLAGAZ is refering to the BHX-ATQ flights which have been removed from sale on the GSM website

...and will now be operated by AEU.

KY
 

Nothing wrong with the 737/600. Would be on a remote stand if not being used. This aircraft operates the GLA - BCN - EDI - BCN - GLA.

Bhx / Atq
 

Commencing when?

I thought Astraeus were operating that route for us anyway??!!