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YHM flights now operating with a B763ER. Business class seats on sale now.

Which leaves the B752ER doing nothing for S09 - yet!

757 for Halifax.....?

how do you know Hamilton is on 757 ? It's not only 767 that has got business class...

He knows because he works for them. I dont think business class was offered to YHM. :rolleyes:

It was as I worked for them and operated on this flight couple of times. I was told that 757 was meant be doing YHM-EDI--BCN-EDI-YHM on Fridays or Saturdays during Summer 2009. Don't know whether it's still gonna happen.
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If GSM are to use 3 763's next year for YHM, SFB & YVR,YYC.

What you think they will use the 752 on? Maybe a return of GLA-BOS?

They couldnt fill a double drop 737 so I cant see them reinstating it with a 757.

757 is leaving the fleet after early april sfbs

so will the 763 be on sfb winter and summer ?

No winter schedule up yet but Id suspect no SFB as 767 are more profitable when leased out.

Why is the 752 leaving? Thought the lease was over 10 years! Will be sad to see it go.

I cant see the 757 leaving but it might be only for its c check and does any one know what plane will do bfs-sfb weekly from 1st May also might do bfs-stb Toronto (Hamilton Intl) weekly from 8th

Has the Palmair contract now gone to Jet2 ??

If you check out the threads on the Bournemouth site it seems certain that Jet 2 have the contract to service Palmair. Jet 2 will provide a based a/craft & flight deck crew, Palmair will use their own cabin crew who will be trained by Jet 2 trainers early in the new year.

So is that the 736 set for a long park up?

Shame, Jet2 must have just offered a better deal unless it is just until April 09 Jet2 will operate for Plamair.

Is the 752 leaving for good or just C Check?

Sky's the limit for city travellers if airport sell-off goes ahead

Comments from the top man in The Scotsman (my underlining):

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By Tom Dalrymple
THE decision that BAA must sell off Edinburgh Airport is eminently sensible and one that will lead to the long-term benefit of the Edinburgh air traveller.
As flyglobespan is one of the few airlines which fly from all three of BAA's current Scottish airports I was interviewed by the Competition Commission and I am pleased they appear to have listened to my recommendations – as the case is unarguable.

Flyglobespan enjoys a very good relationship with BAA. Apart from one summer when we flew out of Prestwick, our Scottish operation has been based entirely from the three BAA airports of Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen. We could not – and would not – have grown our operations from all three bases had the relationship not been a good one, based on mutual respect.

However, I have to admit at some unease regarding a level of complacency from the airports. While independently-owned airports in England are courting flyglobespan to launch routes from their sites, there is not the same drive for new business from their Scottish counterparts. Competition between the three Scottish airports would surely change that attitude.

So why Edinburgh? Well, no matter whether Glasgow or Edinburgh is sold by BAA, it will provide competition between each other which will be good for the central Scotland traveller.

With Prestwick Airport so close, Glasgow already has an element of competition. Edinburgh has no such equivalent and if it and Aberdeen remain within the BAA framework the east of Scotland will be hugely disadvantaged.

Put an independent Edinburgh Airport into the triangle of a BAA-owned Glasgow and Aberdeen set-up, and you have an operation which has to be at its very best at all times in order to compete effectively. It would have to ensure its facilities were better than its rivals, its access and parking weretop notch and, yes, its landing charges as competitive as possible.

Would that mean lower landing charges and therefore savings for customers? Potentially. Competition would give us the ability to negotiate prices as low as possible – at present we have nothing to negotiate against.

One proviso – I would hope that when Edinburgh Airport sell-off happens, Newcastle Airport is not allowed to be among the bidders. That would create the possibility of Scottish routes and programme being taken south for business reasons rather than the convenience of Edinburgh passengers.

An independently-owned Edinburgh Airport, working constantly to ensure its facilities and services are at the highest level to compete effectively against its Scottish rivals would be an ideal working partner not just for this airline but for every carrier. And the long-term winner would be the Edinburgh traveller.

Don't remember any other comments about NCL being interested in EDI - where's that come from??

Tom D is absolutely right here. Maybe this post is a bit off-thread, i.e. not specifically Fly Globespan, but I just want to add that I am wholeheartedly in favour of an EDI sell-off but not to anyone owning either of the two major North of England airports of Manchester and Newcastle. That would simply create a new competition issue. I know that MAN is owned by a consortium of N of England local authorities, but who owns NCL ?

In the case of Manchester Airport Group, just go look at the investment they have made at East Midlands in the years that they have owned it: can't be more then two and sixpence, if that. What a dump, save for the new check-in area it is still mostly a clapboard building like the old Turnhouse of 30 years ago, not one airbridge, the slowest security I have ever gone through, and no doubt left that way to encourage pax to use MAN.

I hope that out there somewhere there is a group of Scottish entrepreneurs willing to come up with the £££s to take Edinburgh on; given the current financial climate it could well be a good buy for the longer term. If not maybe Mr Salmond will buy it for the country?

Newcastle airport is 51% owned by 7 local councils

Newcastle
Northumberland
North Tyneside
South Tyneside
Gateshead
Sunderland
Durham

Then the remaining 49% is owned by Copehagen Airport. This is why the majority of the shops and restraunts are in the deaparture lounge and not landside, as its like this at Copehagen Airport.

This is totally off topic now.... Can we please get back to GSM??

I've heard too many stories of late..... so...

How many 767s are coming?
Is the 757 going?
Is MME closing for good?
Is Halifax gonna be on 737s? If so will we seek ETOPS re-approval on the 737 fleet?
And I hear commercial are sounding out new summer routes for the long haul fleet. Anywhere nice?

Good luck to all at GSM for 2009

LJ

Well what a great start to the New Year. Had flights booked from ABZ to LPA for 9th February with Globespan. Held back from booking accommodation in case they pulled the flight. Booked my accommodation through Airmiles (Thomsons) on Xmas Eve. Email received today from Globespan. Yes my gut feeling was correct, they have cancelled the flight from ABZ - LPA due to lack of demand so I am now £275 out of pocket as into 50% cancellation charges with Thomsons and travel insurance does not cover.

I will NEVER EVER book a low cost airline again! :mad::\:(

GSM's attempts to make a success of a base at ABZ have been worthy, but let's face it, unless it's PMI or TFS (& perhaps AGP) there just isn't sufficient catchment area to offer flights to sustain a base, especially in times of a Credit Crunch. Plus most people around the NE prefer to transport themselves down to EDI or GLA to catch a flight as it's still more cost effective to do so. :ugh:

No wonder the NE Scotland struggles to get the flights it thinks it deserves. It certainly DOESN'T deserve them, they are never used in enough numbers!

My sympathies, c2lass.

Looking farther down the line, I would not be surprised to see GSM focus mainly on ACMI operations and perhaps retain a token number of summer flights to the popular hotspots etc.

Dont tell me you have only just realised!

No hamiltonyhm, I realised some time ago.

I've just had enough!

So, the way they treat their own staff is beyond contempt, the way they treat their customers is also beyond contempt. Interestingly I did a google search on "flyglobespan complaints" and found numerous sites where people have been treated appallingly by Flyglobespan, and now I can add my own experience to others.

Does anyone have an email address either for Mr Dalrymple(MD) or Mr Green (CEO) or indeed any other senior board member of Globespan whom I can direct my complaint?

Edit to above - Just checked my bank account and GSM have refunded me my flight ticket costs but seem to have forgotten about the extra leg room seats I booked and paid for :mad: Now I obviously have another battle on hand!

I see CWL-YHM has gone out the window to now. "And then there was one" southern airport left LGW.

It's not like GSM to change their mind/routes/flights/aircraft/times/days is it? how very unusual.....................

Probably wasn't worth taking a 767 thru CWL. I should imagine that route was planned with the 757 in mind, and if JM leaving the fleet then the routes will have to be changed!

Let's face it, BRS and EXT were a waste of time. CWL would have been just as much hassle, with crews positioning around the country in planes, trains & automobiles.
At the moment, I really don't care where we fly from or to, as long as it's profitable.

LJ

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Let's face it, BRS and EXT were a waste of time. CWL would have been just as much hassle

What a waste, Globespan sold well when the routes were served by Canadian airlines in the past. Shame they can't manage it themselves (!)

CWL has always had a Canadian link, apparently since the 70's.

Zoom (RIP) were serving YYZ twice a week (One with 757 split with LGW, one with 767 split with BFS), YVR once a week during summer, and once a week to YYZ planned for this winter.
There's a market there, thats probably why they were so quick to drop BRS and move to CWL when Zoom went bust.
Havent seen or heard ANY advertising from GSM around South Wales though.

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Add to this a faceless 737 fleet manager.

I saw his face once. Bad experience though. He didn't think much of me. Ho-hum. :p

ILFC | Press Releases

Confirmed lease of further B763ER for 5 years. Due for delivery Feb 2009.

Additional B767-306ER

Ex Zoom UK G-CZNA as refered to in post 91, 28 Nov 08

jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings

B736 (GCDKT) en route at the moment to East Midlands from Bacau.

Haven't heard if this is to operated scheduled services from Glasgow or Edinburgh yet, or whether it is going to EMA to be relivered?

In the press here, it said flyglobespan were deciding on 10 January if they were going to operate from MME this summer. Any body heard any news?

Halifax ex GLA "operates without business class" as advertised in National Press. Presumably confirms 737 ops either 738 or 73G.

last globespan flight today from mme.

looks like theyre gone for good.

Not nessicerely! When will GSM publish there findings of the study the put on about flights out of MME?

If anything GSM may base an a/c or a couple flights coming through on route from GLA and EDI!

For S09, Canadian longhaul will be operated by one B763ER, YHM, YVR and YYC. Another B763ER to operate SFB flights. This leaves 2 B763ERs for ACMI work. B752ER going back to lessor April 09. No other shorthaul A/C coming on line for S09 as yet. B736 leaving for overseas to new operator mid-January, so no Palmair/MME base with this A/C. The 2 B733s will be leaving the fleet Jan/Feb 09. Only 7 A/C for shorthaul this Summer.

I fear that GSM may be making a horrible mistake in relying upon one aircraft to operate the whole Canadian program for 09. It would have been sensible to have retained the 757 for the YHM service (as was 2008) and used a 767 for YVR, etc. Why are they letting the 757 go? I hope & pray they don't cock it up as they did in 2007 when I personally was delayed +12hr at YHM.
With no Zoom now, it seems odd that they are doing it in this way. Added to the fact that it isn't even a direct flight from EDI to YHM now, I might just go from GLA to YYZ with TCX now....extra legroom too!
Reckon ops need to think again!!