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scotsunflyer 20th Nov 2008 16:21

Looks like this will be GCEOD, which is on lease to Air Calin until late November.

luvly jubbly 20th Nov 2008 16:31

...... And is available for ACMI until needed for Canada routes in June.

Look out for more ACMI news soon though.

webby1919 20th Nov 2008 18:17

More Acmi
 
Looks like we've secured a further MOD contract to cover another B763ER through to end of May 09.

GSM is looking forward to an even more successful S09 with more profit!

Flyglobespan lands itself MoD contract - Scotsman.com Business

luvly jubbly 27th Nov 2008 17:30

Finland flights
 
Anyone know whether these are Santa flights??

I'm wondering if it's on the 75 or 73....

LJ

webby1919 28th Nov 2008 10:17

Rumours of a further B763ER for S09.

Fleet will remain as follows for S09:

B763ER 4
B752ER 1
B738s 5
B736 1
B73G 2
B733 2 (lease extended)

Also may be plans for further short-haul fleet added.

caaardiff 28th Nov 2008 10:35

According to Jethro's its an Ex Zoom a/c.
I think all 5 are still in storage so could be any one.
Is this new a/c to expand scheduled routes or for more Charter contracts?

mmeteesside 28th Nov 2008 11:56

Still no flights for Durham Tees though no doubt.

luvly jubbly 28th Nov 2008 12:59

I guess they are hoping the MOD UID/BAH contract is ongoing....

4567 28th Nov 2008 14:51

Aren't both 736's being kept?

Most likely there will still only be 2 763's kept in the GSM fleet next summer. With other 2 on lease, though you never know they may keep 3.

Hopefully we will see another 752 and 1 or 2 more 737's! :ok:

Wellington Bomber 28th Nov 2008 16:28

Did I not see an EX Globespan 737-600 in Eastar Jet colours in Airways, Apparently they operate in Korea

4567 28th Nov 2008 18:07

Sale supposidly fell through!

GSM SCOT 28th Nov 2008 19:25

736
 
There are no 600's left in the fleet, 300's will also go at the end of January.

Skipness One Echo 28th Nov 2008 19:29

Looks like a sensible plan then. Dump the older 737s and standardise on the B737-700 and -800s. Get out of Teesside, because......well frankly you would if you had the chance.
Focus on the long haul program on your own 767 / 757 metal and boost the coffers with ACMI on the other 767 over the summer. Under the circumstances, that's all we ought to be hoping for and let the fan boys shelf the world domination pipe dreams until the storm is over.

Check Mags On 29th Nov 2008 04:40

Sale of the 600 has gone through, saw the aircraft on the ground at Muscat this morning.

It was on a layover en-route Korea.

CMO

4567 29th Nov 2008 14:18

Quite surprisd to see GSM are actually aquireing another 763!
MME is definetley gone! I thought 733's are going to chillie for forseeable future bringing in the cash! Sure ly GSM are going to get some replacement a/c for all the olders 737's they are disposing of.

Pontious 30th Nov 2008 11:28

4567

Why so suprised to see another 767 coming? IMHO they need a total of 5 763ER's & 2 B752's as well as standising on the B737-700/738's & staying away from the B739.

After speaking to mates of mine that flew the B739 at XL before their demise the B739 struggled to make LGW & MAN from Egypt. If they can't make Southern or Central UK airports, then they won't make Scottish ones. No B737 of any series can do the job of a B752 or offer its level of flexibility.

4th 767 is due in 03-05/09 apparently.
:ok:

bushbolox 1st Dec 2008 09:52

If they are doing so well, why the need to keep harping on about it here?
Permenantly reshuffling kit, relying on MOD work (Very dodgy unless you are the lowest of the lowest bidder everytime) are no the sort of signs that would have me buying a house in wilmslow at 5 times a salary dependant on the above.

Having had much experience of MOD and other large charters be advised that civil servants dont care about performance, only price. There are many more Omnis out there and ruthless to the point of corruption allegedly.

Id feel safer sending my kid to a sleep over with gazzer and jacko.

So If Im wrong no need to keep proving it on here is there?:ugh:

Everyone thats gone under so far had plenty of work .

ducati1980 1st Dec 2008 20:18

Bush? Bolox!!!! says it all really !!! does someone really need to explain the use of this site to you? I would suggest if you don't want to read or hear about flyglobespan (good or bad) don't come on the thread. This site is for (what I believe should be) substantiated rumours good and bad and information for people who are interested in a particular subject.

Some people still seem more interested in Globespan bashing than saying anything constructive, so to suggest people shouldn't post what they feel is good news or information on what is a rumour site is frankly ridiculous.

nivsy 2nd Dec 2008 14:56

And Bush - the procurement cycle of the MoD has changed somewhat to what you infer.

VFM - which means meeting the specification and delivering Key performance Indictors and operating under Partnering arrangements are requirements for down selection amongst many others. This is also especially so when considering vital air bridge operations.

Ofcourse price plays a vital role with VFM solutions - however customer (and Industry) expectations need to be assessed in terms of delivering the output and assessing the risk.

GSM would have been well scrutinised and assessed for this vital role that they now participate in - and ofcourse there could be issues (although I understand that the customer experience and level of satisfaction) albeit early days in somewhat commendable to the operator.

Nivsy

gflynorw 6th Dec 2008 12:25

GSM
 
....to pick up palmair charters from BOH from Jan.

chickenstrips 6th Dec 2008 16:04

Strange!

I'd heard that we had been asked by palmair to slot in where EAC had been, but it was not cost effective. That was a couple of days ago and there are a couple of, very cheap to us, -300's gathering snow and ice, so.... Thought Jet2 were doing it now?

gflynorw - what details do you have? ie length of contract, I assume it'll be a wet ACMI??

I understand that our WY contract has been further extended. Good news there then!

Also, with KD now sold and KT to be leaving us - anything more on further airframes? Other than a 76 as noted above, last I'd heard it was a couple of -800's but that's gone all quiet!

luvly jubbly 6th Dec 2008 17:26

Too many ACMI and not enough selling of our own seats......

Smells like fattening up ready for a sale!

chickenstrips 6th Dec 2008 18:02

LJ,

Any idea who? Flybe seem to be on a role for world domination....:eek:

Doubt he's fattening his goose - well, not those you and I push through the sky...

luvly jubbly 6th Dec 2008 18:58

I'm not saying it's anyone in particular! I'm no expert, but these ACMIs seem to be short term gain for the airline! I do, however, hear we have been up for sale for some time now.....

GSM SCOT 6th Dec 2008 19:39

acmi's
 
Short term ACMI'S are better than having the aircraft sitting on the ground all winter costing money.
Brings a lot of money into the company

luvly jubbly 6th Dec 2008 19:47

I fully understand sending the 767s away as there's not enough winter trade for them, but the downsized 737 fleet?????

None of the 737s should be on the ground. Are you really saying that the credit crunch has hit us so hard that we can't sell our own seats anymore??

GSM SCOT 6th Dec 2008 20:12

acmi's
 
Credit crunch has hit everyone, better to downsize the fleet and remain profitable then expand again when the economy recovers.

4567 8th Dec 2008 16:16

Well the 737-300's and 600's are off!
Flyglobespan Thank Jethros!

Surely GSM are going to get a couple of replacements in or will it just be 7 737's for S09 then?

Anyone heard anything?

MARKEYD 10th Dec 2008 11:38

Has anyone heard anything about the deal that Palmair may have done with Flyglobespan about leasing an aircraft from them to operate there schedules from Bournemouth from January using 737 aircraft but Palmair cabin crew on board ( doubt very much it would be a 737 800 as to big for the Palmair operation )

Would this lease impact on there own operation from various airports or do they intend to bring back an existing 737 that may possibly be off elsewhere

Palmair have a very successful operation from Bournemouth operating to Tenerife , Palma , Lanzarote , Fuerteventura , Funchal , Monastir , Faro , Brescia , Mahon , Corfu , Naples , Rhodes this year a very busy programme

luvly jubbly 10th Dec 2008 13:57

Er.... Yes... looking at post #106.......

Palmair thread claims it's our 1 remaining B736 (G-CDKT), which was to be sold off.
More fuel efficient than EAL's old -200, but can the -600 do TFS & FUE witout tech stops? They did struggle from STN!

Palmair operate year round with their own cabin crew, so look out for a BOH base for GSM pilots only!??

fokkerplod 11th Dec 2008 14:59

Djibouti
 
Any truth in the rumour of operating the Dallo Airlines contract LGW/CDG/JIB ?

was a AEU contract on the B757 some time back

hamiltonyhm 12th Dec 2008 10:04

Flyglobespan are asking for 737 trained cabin crew volunteers to operate hajj flights on behalf of Dallo Airlines over the xmas and new year period with a £350 bonus. Contract not signed yet.

webby1919 15th Dec 2008 11:14

Glasgow-Halifax
 
GSM released weekly direct flights from GLA to Halifax, Summer 09 starting May 09 departing Wed.

Picking up the extra capacity from Zoom. Wonder if there is more to come to fill the ex-Zoom A/C that GSM are to receive for S09.

freightdoggy dog 15th Dec 2008 11:29

Markeyd. Jet2 have the Palmair contract till end of March 09 and also doing the JIB with a B757 for Dallo. Think GSM will start the Palmair in APR 09,but guess RYR will then increase activity against BT and dump seats on the same routes ?

airhumberside 15th Dec 2008 11:38

What is Halifax being operated on - a B757 or B767?

I cant see FR starting BOH-Monastir of BOH-Rhodes some how. Palmair will still be Palmair, just a different aircraft and pilots. So no increase of competition. Just a new operator for an existing programme of flights

4567 15th Dec 2008 15:45

Good to see relauch of Halifax, maybe Ottawa?

Could be GSM are planning on using 3 767-300's S09 or another 752 we don't know of yet. Will have to wait and see! :)

Anything on a couple of new additions to short-haul fleet?

Is the delay in GSM taking over Palmair ops being incured on GSM's side of things or because Jet2 were offering a better deal till the end of march?

airhumberside 15th Dec 2008 20:19

Can a B737 do GLA-Halifax non-stop?

Lorek 19th Dec 2008 14:26

do you guys think it would be possible that GSM would do Glasgow-Halifax without a layover for crew in there ? It's only 6 hours ish and the whole trip is shorter than Edinburgh-Sharm El Sheikh that they do everyweek... but there is a time difference of 4 h between Glasgow and Halifax where Egypt is only 2 h.. dunno, i;m not that good with flight time limitations... but wouldn't like to do this flight if it's there and back....

DAVYDAY 19th Dec 2008 18:34

100% for Ground Handling.
 
Globespan PLC have now bought their own Ground Handling company
"Alba Ground Handling Company Ltd" is now 100% owned by Globespan PLC..

Alba started 2 years ago and Globespan bought 40% share in them
earlier this week it was announced to staff that they have been taken over.

Gerry Rodden will remain at the helm as General Manager,however,Morag has resigned.
There will be a new MD in place early in the new year.

Alba operate at both GLA & EDI...:D

Skipness One Echo 19th Dec 2008 19:20

Funny that cos we all knew it was Globespan Handling from Day 1.......


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