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Betablockeruk 24th Sep 2008 08:55

Jet Airways codeshare
 
Jet Airways announced expansion of its codeshare agreement with Brussels Airlines to connect Paris and Manchester from October 26, operating via the Belgian airline's European hub in Brussels.

So, is that the end of Manchester's direct (scheduled) India flight ambition or can anyone recall conversion of codeshares to direct flights?

bigMANofMAN 24th Sep 2008 09:15

can anyone recall conversion of codeshares to direct flights?

Qatar Airways code shared with Lufthansa on flights to Munich for a while before they started their own services...

bigMAN

Suzeman 24th Sep 2008 09:31

Mr A Tis

I recently posted this comment in the BFS thread and also in a baby cancellation thread in this forum but I will repeat it here.MAN, BFS and EMA are all losing some of my business as a result.

Somebody said

The BFS-EMA cancellation is actually fairly normal now. They usually cancel the 18:00 from BFS most days.
and my reply was


This was certainly the case yesterday. The high numbers of canx flights this summer is just the sort of thing that makes me prefer alternative routes /carriers when I can http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/sowee.gif
I believe the reasons are aircraft shortage (TOYL/M only recently arrived) and a series of tech problems with the rest of the fleet which isn't exactly new.

They seem to be upsetting many pax - there is a story of a chap going somewhere (Poland?) I think from EMA where they canx his outbound flight several days in advance and advised him that he would now be on the next flight a couple of days later - on the day he was coming back!! He had to write/ phone several times before he got any sense out of them or the promise of a refund: not surprisingly, he is now travelling with another carrier.

And they have certainly p*ssed off Lord Toofouright who expressed forceful views on the subject just earlier. So I think they need to buck their ideas up PDQ.

betablocker

As far as India is concerned, I don't think you will see any direct flights from MAN. Even BHX cannot seem to sustain them. And whilst the SN codeshare with Jet will give an indication of demand they might capture, I can't see there being enough to one destination in India to sustain a direct service. The beauty of the Brussels hub is that it allows onward travel to several destinations in India.

Suzeman

Momentary Lapse 24th Sep 2008 15:59

When you only pay coppers for a flight, what do you expect? You wanna save money; so does the airline.

You get what you pay for. A fact that many people on here fail to understand.

That applies to airline service levels, employee motivation levels, airport cleanliness standards and so on.

Lord Toofouright 24th Sep 2008 17:28

Re: New Tower
 
Scottie,
Sorry for the delay in replying but the facts as I understand them are that the Board are considering several proposals vis-a-vie the new proposed VCR.

1) Was an all singing and dancing construction of an iconic variety that looked really good on paper.:D However I feel that that is as far as that one got.:(
2) Slightly less ambitious one proposed, not as tall and less space aloft.:=
3) A new shed-on-a-pole (Emm haven't seen a post from him for a while?!).:sad:
4) Just a new shed!:(

All are being actively considered but my bet is that instead of past beliefs of build while there is a downturn to be ready for the Upturn, the bid for another far flung "Assett" will take precedence over all matters!:ugh:

As far as I'm aware the Stand to be dedicated for A.380 ops is Stand 32.:zzz:

Is this airfeld really ready for A.380 ops ? - don't rate it myself - it's bound to fall into a hole somewhere on the taxiway system or failing that hold up every other movement whilst it taxies in / starts-up - pushes back / taxies out. :\
Have we any steps for it? - Send out to B&Q for Three section ally-ladder, but make sure all who use it have been trained in "How to use a ladder", - you know it makes sense?;)

Mr A Tis 24th Sep 2008 19:37

Momentary Lapse.

What you overlook, is that not everyone pays coppers for their lo co flights.

If you need to get somewhere at short notice you pay the likes of Monarch, Baby & Jet2 a small fortune to travel, but still get dicked about & treated like S H one T.

Brian Fantana 24th Sep 2008 20:17

Is this airfeld really ready for A.380 ops ? - don't rate it myself

Likewise I dont rate it either. As soon as the punters get off an A380 at stand 32 the hole of the terminal will grind to a halt as the queue through immigration backs up to that stand. There is already problems on that pier mixing inbound and outbound passengers, with flight delays as boarding is held whilst inbound pax are let off aircraft!! The airport is getting no better to work from longs queues through immigration long queues getting through staff channels, believe the new Iris system is having a few teething problems too, hardly any of the travelators work. MAplc are more concerned about getting passengers into shops to spend money than making it an airport with a pleasant travel experience. Permanant construction going on inside, outside the terminals and on the apron - when will it ever end.
I really dislike the place at the moment, I have seen better airports in native third world countries!! :mad:

MUFC_fan 24th Sep 2008 20:21

Reluctantly, I must agree with the above posts.

As much as ai would LOVE to see an A380 gracing the tarmac daily, I would hate to get off a short flights into terminal 2 (AMS, CDG etc.) and find that I have to wait as long as the flight to get through immigration!

I don't know if there is a seperate channel for EU arriving flights as I wouldn't fly Skyteam if they paid me but whenever I come back with FCA/TOM etc. they always que with the EK/SQ lot. Is that still correct?

Before w see the A380 - lets see the airport try to regain it's status as one of the world's leading airports - can't have a small county in the Pacific beating us!:ok:

Old Grey 24th Sep 2008 21:04

If Brian Fantana is in San Diego, how come he sees so much of Manchester Airport, especially seeing as there are no direct services between the two cities?

Just asking....... :hmm:

Suzeman 24th Sep 2008 22:16


As soon as the punters get off an A380 at stand 32 the hole of the terminal will grind to a halt
Was that the hole of the terminal or the whole of the terminal?? :}

Suzeman

ACCMan 24th Sep 2008 22:50

Guys. I few updates for you.

1. No new VCR. New standby facility to be built out on the airfield.
2. A380 ops is for diversions only. Much work to do on stand 12 and 32 before schedule ops.
3. No staff channel issues since opening of new OBCs in all terminals.
4. Wizz Air off for this winter, but I'm sure they'll try again for next summer. Remember we'll be out of regulation by then.

greatoaks 25th Sep 2008 05:48

I must congratulate MAG for the wonderful new experience in T2. departures.
  1. Travel up one level to the waiting long queue
  2. Enter boarding pass to scanner
  3. Scanner eats boarding pass
  4. wait for very pi$$ed off employee to extracate from scanner
  5. queue to travel back down to ground level
  6. arrive in the dark and gloomy corner of the old toilet block
Marvellous......Thats the way to impress your customers :D

DeltaIndiaSierraPapa 1st Oct 2008 06:51

Nothing new at MAN for over a week now?

spannersatcx 1st Oct 2008 09:22

and some posts have disappeared as well! i.e. the BA reduncancies post and replies!!:confused:

Betablockeruk 1st Oct 2008 09:24

6 (possibly 7) LHR fog related diversions on Sat, including 4x 777.

Has the credit/fuel crisis prompted airlines to limit holding fuel to minimum criteria? In the past there's been many a day when low viz procedures have been in place at both LHR and LGW without anything venturing up north, so what's changed?

ManofMan 1st Oct 2008 09:36

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but i heard a likkle whisper that T2 is to go all charter with T1 being used for Scheduled only ???

Comments ??

Keyvon 1st Oct 2008 14:29

Jet2 is to introduce a new summer route to the Greek island of Rhodes. it's due to begin from 20th May '09, on Wednesdays.
Guess could be a charter-like one.

G-STAW 1st Oct 2008 20:52



Not sure if this has been mentioned before but i heard a likkle whisper that T2 is to go all charter with T1 being used for Scheduled only ???

Comments ??

Old news, and T3 is going low-cost.....

G-STAW

StoneyBridge Radar 1st Oct 2008 20:58


Old news, and T3 is going low-cost.....
Does that mean cheap car parking...? :}

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 2nd Oct 2008 06:57

Was there an aircraft performing a prolonged high-thrust engine run on 1st October.

Sounded like there were screaming jets for several minutes at a time during mid-late afternoon.


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