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apron 3rd Feb 2009 16:06

There appears to be alot of noises coming from a tread in T+C's from the bmi pilots quite rightly looking at legal action with reference to their 3 year paydeal being revoked. (in an appauling fashion I must say)

What about the bmibaby lot??? Not heard too much except from an email that everyone received from NT. Maybe if 'we' make some more pilots redundant they will honour the bmi payrise :ugh:

What a mess...:(

TLBird 3rd Feb 2009 16:17

Just because you donnot know about something does not mean it is not happening:=

AboveMSA 4th Feb 2009 22:24

~It was a sort of lifo at base with other criteria, Balpa did not agree.

What were the details of the other criteria?

jethro15 22nd Feb 2009 17:10

Is anyone aware of any forthcoming end of lease retirements from the Baby fleet?

jethro
jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings

aidoair 24th Feb 2009 22:12

Will that not leave baby with not enough aircraft for the summer routes or is the operation planned with 18 aircraft? Will they leasing two Airbus from mainline again for the summer?

CheekyVisual 25th Feb 2009 09:28

Everyone suggested that the summer programme was worked out for the aircraft remaining after the winter handbacks, that was before the unexpected high demand for med routes materialised. However, with the additional routes and rotations I wouldn't mind betting we'll see big brother "helping us out" over the summer especially when the inevitable tech problems start. If it happens it will no doubt mean a further reduction at baby next winter as crews and aircraft (costs) are more easily cut and then replaced on a "helping you out basis" by mainline again next summer. It looks like the plan from where I am uncomfortably sitting that the baby management have lost control of the company, that's if they ever had much anyway.

anoxic 25th Feb 2009 10:34


It looks like the plan from where I am uncomfortably sitting that the baby management have lost control of the company, that's if they ever had much anyway
Don't for a moment think that it's any better in mainline!

The late XV105 4th Mar 2009 13:12


WW have no one to blame but themselves. Knackered aircraft, horrible schedules, appalling timekeeping, pretty cheap and nasty on board (although the crew do the best with what they have to work with) AND they are not that cheap to fly with. No wonder they are loosing market share.

Brian
Yup; out of my last three return sectors with bmibaby, all PRG-BHX, one had a very long delay and the other two were cancelled (one completely, leaving me high and dry to find my own way home and the other with a replacement non scheduled service bearing different WW identifier the next day). All three were tech and all three generated dreadful customer "service" using Menzies - their local ground handling agent in lieu of actual representation - to hide behind and nothing but standard format "bog off per EU terms and conditions" letters when followed up later.

I have now voted with my feet and have no intention of returning either personally or for the many Czech family flights I book each year.

Also with respect to losing market share, over the past few weeks I have been nothing short of spammed by WW marketing and special offers; the last time this happened was with Speed Ferries just before their news broke...

Businesstraveller 5th Mar 2009 11:49

I notice that once again WW are about to move to their distinctly unappealing summer schedule. As it stands I'm having to travel with Flybe on Saturday because WW don't operate a service on Saturday. Then the Friday afternoon (16:55) EDI-BHX flight is about to morph into an evening flight (19:15). Most the people on this flight are commuters of one sort or another who (like me) won't appreciate arriving home at the end of the evening on a Friday. I for one will be voting with my feet and joining a busier Flybe flight at a far better time. Oh for the days of BA/BA Connect....

OltonPete 5th Mar 2009 18:19

BMI Baby BHX - EDI
 
Businesstraveller

Only guessing to a certain extent but the problem with operating two
flights a day the 1500 (as it was) was far too early as a last northbound.

This has recently changed to 16.00/16.30 but still a little early for day
returns from EDI.

The pax figures suffered and now that there will be only four based
aircraft from the end of the month running a tight schedule they
have needed to tweak the timings of some flights and certainly EDI
is not great.

Could EDI, GLA and BFS end up as Regional like the Aberdeen?

Pete

airnoc 5th Mar 2009 21:25

Bmi Baby
 
See Bmibaby in gone from noc to glasgow route. If they d'ont watch the noc to man & Bhx route they will be gone as time keeping and canceling of route pax will and do fly gwy to man and bhx on shannon route so get up or get out

Businesstraveller 9th Mar 2009 13:10

'Could EDI, GLA and BFS end up as Regional like the Aberdeen?'

Now if the Baby routes from BHX became BMI Regional like Aberdeen is about to become, that would be great. It would go some way to replacing the loss of a proper domestic carrier when BA/BA Connect pulled out of BHX. I won't hold my breath though.

polkadotwellies 20th Apr 2009 14:07

BMI Baby Canx Cardiff to Almeria route
 
Can anyone shed any light on BMIBaby cancelling the Cardiff to Almeria route May-Oct09.

I have telephoned them today and they have confirmed that they will not be operating the routes and have stopped selling any more tickets, but they insist that I will be travelling.

Are they going to try and fob me off with another destination - Malaga, a 3 and a half hour drive away or Alicante a 4 and a half hour drive away? Neither of which I want!

Or can I be optimistic and hope that they are going to charter a private jet for me and my family :D !!!!!!!

Envoy320 20th Apr 2009 16:08

i would ring them and ask who is operating the route....

If they insist that you are travelling on the route, the contract must be in place for the operation of the route and they should advise you how you are getting there....

If they can't tell you, i wouldn't trust that you are going if i'm honest!!

WATABENCH 20th Apr 2009 16:18

SHOCKER !! :cool:

OliWW 20th Apr 2009 16:30

Its not available on their website anymore either :(

If you are looking for an alternative
Ryanair - STN
easyJet - LGW
Monarch - BHX, MAN

SAM-EMA 20th Apr 2009 17:20

WW might just re-allocate you on an EMA - Almeria flight.

SAM-EMA

brumboy 20th Apr 2009 17:27

Now, now polkadotwellies, don't exagerate!
 
Airport to airport:

Malaga - Almeria 2.75 hours (will be even quicker when they complete the motorway)
Alicante - Almeria 3.25 hours

Don't forget
Murcia - Almeria 3 hours

I have driven these routes many times when there are no, or no suitable Birmingham - Almeria flights!

Bet Baby offer you East Midlands - Almeria!

jerhippo 21st Apr 2009 05:49

BmiBaby New Routes?????
 
looks like WW are going to be operating a few new routes, it shows on the Air DB as

CWL-DUB
DUB-EDI
EDI-FCO


interesting....

8028410q 21st Apr 2009 09:06

DUB-EDI and EDI-FCO sound stupid to me, taking on FR on their home turf.. CWL-DUB is a good move though.

8028410q


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