Bmibaby
 

I was wondering how WW is coping with the oil prices?

Also i wanted to know when the winter schedules will be released

BmiBaby Future
 

It looks like it is make or break month for BmiBaby....

http://www.compare-airport-parking.c...-Cutbacks.html

Lets hope they continue to operate and expand from all of there hubs. :ok:

baby is safe
 

If you look at the baby website there are new routes coming in the near feature and new boss too. I dont think baby is going anywhere fast like the rest of the bmi group.
New routes Milan, Madrid and Barelona.

Mr Flaps
 

What's this about a new boss at Baby. Please do tell more!!

Think Big Brother Turnher will keep WW floating.

Think if WW finished, MB would see this as a personal failure.

BD/BMI don't do failure after 60+ years of op's.:D

Ryanair MK2
 

Bmibaby announce a £4-6 charge for the pleasure of checking in at the airport, mirroring the charge MOL introduced over a year ago.
INET check in will be increased for the Spanish destinations as well however pax must still queue at check in to submit APIS details and if they dont they will be offloaded at the gate (no appeal). negates the advantage of INET check in really!!!
FR & EZE both do APIS on line & if the pax has not submitted within 24hrs of Flt , booking is suspended.
I can see a good few arguements over this one.:mad::mad::mad:

So does anyone know when baby will release seats for winter 08/09?

Give me strength!!! Have we hit an all time low on P.prune...

Quote:
''The decision on the airlines future operations is set to be made in the next month. ''

The quote is from COMPARE AIRPORT PARKING.com!!!!

Guess that's what the dogger's think then:\
- but please hardly the sharp or most informed end of the aviation industry!!:ugh::ugh:

regards bbb

BmiBaby is introducing a check-in fee of £6 at airport and £4 if you let them know when you book online.

Until the system is up and running then the winter flights cannot be uploaded. (A case of all winter flights will be subject to these charges).

I doubt baby are pulling out of Cardiff as they have sent new barriers over for check-in, along with new cabin baggage measure scales and that Cardiff is one of the places listed on with these check-in charges.

Baby is here to stay and if the 5 a/c from Virgin Nigeria along with the other that is due then i would expect to see a 4th a/c at Cardiff.

well why introduce the checking in fee at cardiff if they were going to close the base, according to the bmibaby station manager at cardiff, it is not true.

The only thing that we're closing at the moment is the window in Ops, cos it's bloody chilly tonight !:)

Various business news sources are today saying that Baby are going to double the MAN operation, with more destinations in France, Spain, Italy and Poland. 100 more jobs will be created, according to Crawford Rix.

Anybody got some more info?

Sounds like the press release put out on 22 May to me.

http://news.ebookers.com/news/bmibab...rt-growth/002/

TA

Are WW starting to suffer with their older a/c? Tonight some pretty major delays in and out of BHX, with EDI being badly effected. the 1006 operated to EMA with pax being bussed. The a/c also suffered a tech fault in EDI with a fuel pump fault, which caused a further delay.

When travelling as a passenger, I regularly chose WW over competition. But some of the delays I have seen recently lead me to wonder how long WW have before their older fleet let them down.

With EZY and FR in much stronger positions both financially and with modern aircraft, I hope they dont squash airlines such as WW, but all the facts sadly seem to point this way in the next 12 - 18 months.

It would be such a tradegy to see an airline with superior customer service (in comparison to other LCC's) go under due to market conditions.

What will their reaction be to the new FR routes launched today, does this put them in serious trouble ?

No. Why should it? :ugh: :rolleyes:

Topslide6
 

Basic rules of aviation economics make it plain that todays announcements mean Baby will lose £4.5m to £5m in revenue from the routes FR are now in competition with them on. So yes it will have a very big effect. They will have to adjust capacity or it's a £5m hit to an already negative bottom line.

FR and BmiBaby
 

Yes this is true, however by BmiBaby should be able to cope as they have battled with Ryanair at EMA and seem to have done very well. On the Alicante route they battled with Easyjet and Ryanair and seem to do okay..:ok:

adam12345, exactly. Ryanair being at EMA actually created revenue and passengers.

Uncovered, I assume you are an 'airline economist', or work in airline management in some capacity and have some knowledge and experience to back up your statement. Didn't think so.

Proof? No. Didn't think that either. :rolleyes:

Winter Schedule
 

BmiBaby have today released there winter schedule.

Winter 08/09
 

Not all of it, just sun routes.

MB

Looking at the sun routes for baby this winter, and, even though there are only a few destinations avaliable already, I have to say, there isnt a lot of flights atall, by the looks of it, there would only be 4 aircraft based at EMA...

Based in January-

MALAGA = Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday
ALICANTE = Tuesday, Saturday, Sunday
PALMA = Tuesday, Saturday
GENEVA = Monday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

Prague would most likely be 4x a week
Jersey between 3x and 4x a week
Warsaw might be 3x a week

Anyone know why the NOC-GLA service is cancelled today ?

Glad I booked with ZB when their W08 flights came out in April, for AGP-MAN in December and didn't hold back, as WW are only offering 3/4 x weekly Tuesday, Friday/Saturday (varies) and Sunday.

Very poor.

Where's the so called expansion at MAN?

a meeting on a Sunday???

bmibaby is the most punctual low cost carrier based on the latetst flight on time statistics :ok:

FLIGHTONTIME.info - Low Cost Airline Delays & Punctuality in the UK

bmi baby
 

bmi baby have got the nick name bni may be:uhoh:

after following the link i am suprised to see that EMA and CWL have no info on them but EDI does.

Very well done for BmiBaby to this but i would to see how this continues with the airframes getting older and older.

In all fairness they do try their best to re-shuffle flights during tech aircraft to try and get the majority on a minimum delay and also bring a/c in from other bases to cover AOG a/c.

Hope this continues, excellent news for the small LO-CO

EMA and CWL are not monitored under CAA stats, which is where flightontime get their info from.

Considering bmibaby's punctuality performance over prior years, there has been a big improvement. Whatever they have done to their schedules/turnarounds its worked and hopefully this level of performance will continue.

Winter Schedule
 

BmiBaby have released there winter schedule on the rest of there routes.

Stopped Routes:
Birmingham: Bordeaux, Krakow, Madrid, Marseille, Rome
East Midlands: Nice
Manchester: Bordeaux, Lisbon, Madrid, Newquay, Perpignan

Also No New Routes Announced Yet.

Baby have never served Aberdeen from Manchester. That's a regional route and I can't see the oil companies letting that be dropped.

What a shame. Looks like manchester is going to be without a madrid connection once again.
MAN needs the likes of EZY, CLK or even RYR to get this route going. Im sure theyd make a bomb!
Whatever happened to TOM and LIS, I thought they were doing well but the route seems to have dissapeared without any news as to why?

baby
 

Barcelona from cwl new winter route

GLA-NOC doesnt appear bookable in Winter.

OliWW

"Doing average..." is probably the reason it has been dropped.

BHX-Krakow hasn't been dropped, it's bookable on the Baby website!

I thought baby had their sights set on expanding their operations at MAN, not dropping routes. Has this got anything to do with aircraft shortages? I know that currently they only have 2 baby machines based at MAN, 2 bmi A320s are covering the rest of the routes this week. There has been a mixture of A319s/320s & 321s covering their operation since the start of the Summer season.