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airnoc 22nd Jan 2009 21:48

Bmi Baby
 
What the story on Glasgow route from Knock seem not bookable from end of march?http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/boohoo.gif

bmi expat 22nd Jan 2009 22:01

Bmibaby Winter 2009
 
Winter 09 will not be released for sale at least until probably March as is the case in past years. The fact that flights are not on sale yet has nothing to do with the LH takeover.

OliWW 23rd Jan 2009 09:04

I dont think it will be that early really, if LH dont take over until like February or March, then they will need to plan everything out. It might even be as late as June.

INKJET 27th Jan 2009 17:10

bmi follow Virgin lead in no pay award for 2009
 
bmi to freeze pay for 2009:sad:


Luffty have also been told that approval for their takeover of SN Brussells could take until June, i can see the bmi take over meeting similar challenges, could be a while afore we get Merc vans!!:(

scrapy 27th Jan 2009 23:16

I dont think the Lufthansa takeover will delay winter flights going on sale. If they decide at a later date not to operate the flights then they will cancel/amend them 'for operational reasons'.

Is Lufthansa want to offload baby they will still sell flights rather than lose business to competitors and lower the value of the business.

flowy50 28th Jan 2009 10:12

almeria
 
A bit confused almeria showing on bmibaby search engine from cardiff 2 flights a week anyone able to comment.

Charlie Roy 28th Jan 2009 10:50

Cardiff - Almeria is a new route (announced today).
Also: Birmingham - Newquay

uncovered 28th Jan 2009 13:53

CWL-GLA and AMS
 
Baby giving up GLA and AMS for Almeria. Sensible move by TinyTown, good news for Flybe.

mikerawsonderby 28th Jan 2009 18:11

Cardiff to Almeria 'replaces' Glasgow and Amsterdam, Birmingham to Newquay 'replaces' Cork - I hope they don't announce any new flights from EMA!!

OliWW 28th Jan 2009 19:06

Why dont you want them to expand at EMA?

mathers_wales_uk 28th Jan 2009 19:59

A very good decision in my opinion and maybe good news all round at CWL at least.

Very suprised the GLA route didn't go sooner. I am suprised that AMS has been axed and not BFS.

Copenhagen 28th Jan 2009 20:33

With Almeria being a very strong seasonal route, where will Baby fly this winter.

Will baby fly this winter??? :ugh:

OliWW 28th Jan 2009 20:43

Grenoble, Lyon, Salzburg, Zurich, Geneva, Turin, More winter sun routes, Malaga, Alicante...

plus7g 29th Jan 2009 17:15

OliW : where did you find the Salzburg dest ? from where ? I need to fly to Salz in March and its not on www.BMIbaby.com website ? tx

OliWW 29th Jan 2009 17:32

No i was listing where bmibaby could fly as Almeria is only a summer route, for the winter bmibaby should be considering some of those routes, im not sure of any plans for any of them.

Thomson, Thomas Cook - Manchester to salzburg
Jet2 - Leeds Bradford - salzburg spring into mind

ryan2000 29th Jan 2009 21:19

Bmi Baby
 
Reports from Cork indicate that EI are gaining market share on ORK MAN. Also it seems that reports of WW's withdrawal from ORK BHX became widely known at Cork Airport before management were officialy informed. This was a result of the Prune posting last weekend.

brian_dromey 29th Jan 2009 22:38

WW have no one to blame but themselves. Knackered aircraft, horrible schedules, appalling timekeeping, pretty cheap and nasty on board (although the crew do the best with what they have to work with) AND they are not that cheap to fly with. No wonder they are loosing market share.

Brian.

INKJET 29th Jan 2009 22:44

ORK
 
Cork is in Euro land and has seen a weekening of demand from UK pax, conversley ORK-BHX is a cheap shopping trip for Irish nationals, who will tend to favour Aer Lingus all thing beeing equal.

NQY is likely to bring a better return

LEI is popular from EMA so it probably makes more sense than AMS for the summer sun routes and all the bagage revenue for CWL

The Summer program is set now bar a few tweeks here and there.

Winter program phase one will be out in 8-10 weeks

INKJET 29th Jan 2009 22:53

BD
 
One has to work with the tools that you are given at least for now, the group have had other priorities and the pot is only so big (small in fact) the aircraft are far from knackered, but they tried to do to much with to few aircraft in the past and paid the price, very few delays the last few months other than weather and ORK was only CAT1 for baby as CAT2/3 are autolands and baby can't do them in ORK due to the terrain.

Tom the Tenor 29th Jan 2009 23:36

Let us hope that bmi baby tough it out on Manchester - Cork again for the summer. It would be sad to see the airline leave as they have tried nearly everything to Cork down the years. Aside from FR they were the first sort of traditional loco to fly to Cork and that was from EMA. Manchester was to follow along with shots at Cardiff, Durham Tees Valley and Gatwick and more recently a brave shot on Birmingham.

The bmi baby crews are to be admired with the equipment they have had to work with down the years at Cork and even though some the airframes are getting on a bit they still got on with the job safely and comfortably as they could for the passengers. Delays may always happen when there are so few aeroplanes available compared to the likes of FR, EZY and even EI so whilst the inconvenience to passengers is regretable at least with a smaller airline you can understand how delays can occur.

What is not so readily acceptable is why bmi baby has never got on with it and got their aeroplanes up to CATII capability for Cork. Terrain this and that on the runway 17 threshold Cork is just not good enough an excuse. It has never been a problem for Aer Lingus, Ryanair and easyJet at Cork but even much more than that it was never a problem for classic 737 airlines such as CSA Czech Airlines and UK airlines such as Thomsonfly and Titan Airways. I seem to recall that not long after Thomsonfly started Coventry - Cork they sent an empty aeroplane over to Cork one dark evening to conduct a series of practice CATII approaches at Cork. Now, it fails me why bmi baby could not have done the same for their far more substantial operation to Cork at the time.


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