SkipnessOneEcho

The only problem with GSM's MAN-CPT route was the schedule being op'd by 1 aircraft with no spare to take up the slack due tech problems.

So, Skippy, how did GSM's MAN-YHM, MAN-YYC & MAN-YVR routes go? Suprise,suprise, GSM will be doing it again next summer.

GSM has a MAN base with an office with a crewroom, based pilots & cabin crew. GSM's Maintrol department is also based at MAN.
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Hot money on airline collapse - Business News, Business - The Independent

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Seem as Paddy Power has taken Alitalia off the list, GSM has nudged it's way to top place.

Are the punters going to get stung on their bets or not..time will tell, I guess!

EI-CFC

Post the link to Paddy Power. I checked out the PP website & couldn't find the link to the airline bankruptsy section.

I'm dying to have a 'flutter'.
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Flying to where? The Hamilton services are a W / non based operation surely? If they open a base they'll be putting B737s up against the big boys outside Scotland and that hasn't worked for them yet.

Skippy

Like I said earlier, the ex-MAN services used MAN-based crews just as the ex-LGW services used LGW-based crews & GLA & EDI used their respective based crews.

Does this concept seem particularly alien to you?
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Yes it does when the airline doesn't have a daily presence at the airport. It is a little unusual, (and costly) to have a crew base for a few days a week. Surely they don't have flight deck based at MAN or LGW?

That page seems to be unavailable at the moment.... It was here;
Next Airline To Go Bust? Betting

However, they seem to have started an FR one here;
Ryanair Special Betting

PS. Yes we have based pilots at MAN..... Also LGW & LHR. I guess it's easier to recruit to these bases, particularly for foreign crews who commute.
Unfortunately, it has proven to be difficult to get pilots to join Scottish bases....

LJ

That's what I wanted to put a bet on- GSM NOT going under.

I think the legal terriers in Collinton will relish getting their teeth into the Independant's crock of cr*p.

The link to the Paddy Power section states that it has closed that particular branch of betting choices which is such a pity because I really wanted to place a bet.

I honestly don't know why a section of the press or Ppruners has such a doom & gloom outlook towards GSM. Does:

1) Recruiting additional Pilots.
2) Procuring more aircraft.
3) Securing extra ACMI work.
4) Existing ACMI contracts being extended.
5) Bookings for S09 well ahead of last years sales.
6) Being awarded a very lucrative government contract.
7) On course to post a profit inspite of stormy market forces.

sound much like an airline that's going under? Unfortunately some posters only post what they think will cause alarm & concern... instead of fact-based information.

Chickenstrips

I can see Collinton just staying quiet. They aren't answerable to any shareholders or investors as it's a one-man family company. They are awash with cash, hedged their fuel at a rate considerably less than RYR & don't really care about what's posted on this Forum or in the press south of the border, unless it's libelous, & if they do post anything in the press then it's normally in the Scottish media.

Skippy

Exactly what part of "GSM has crews based in MAN,LGW & LHR" don't you understand? GSM DO INDEED have flight deck based at MAN. I know this as fact because I'm one of them.
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As much as im for GSM, this is a bit of shock please don't tell me GSM sent a 738 all the way from MAN to YVR? i mean YHM ok, but YVR, your having a laugh! Can anybody verify this comment on this photo stating this?
JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-DLCH (CN: 30040) Flyglobespan Boeing 737-8Q8 by Matt - Capital Aviation Photography

Does anybody know if GSM is keeping G-CDKT?

Are the talks at MME still ongoing?

I'm placing a bet on them going bust if they have a bloody crew base for THAT level of flying. That's insane. No winter flying and THREE flights a week during the summer??? Heathrow yes obviously for the Air India contract but Gatwick has nothing after next week either !

I think the questioner was keen to have a crew base that involved F L Y I N G.

As for That's mainly because that a Hell of a lot of the guys that joined to fly from near home in Scotland got screwed over and left !(). It seems that only foreign contract pilots will touch them now.

GSM in Manchester are doing very well by all accounts. Alot less delays (it woudl seem) than last year, not as many other airlines brought in to do their own flights.

Also the loads on every flight (bar the MAN-DUB-YVR ones as its a duel pickup) have been very high or Full. With the demise of Zoom, GSM are now one of two Sch'd carriers to Canada. As far as im aware Air Transat is the only other out of MAN.

GSM once again, like they did with the CPT route, are makin money here.

GSM finally starting to get it right? :rolleyes:

Thomas Cook (TCX) is also a major player on the Manchester - Canada routes.

Cheers, SHED.

Not that well, after today they have no flights until April 2009. Thats five months with no flights at a crew base? What am I missing here?

Skippy

Bet away,Pal. You know the old addage, "A fool & his money...." Post the link here if you can access it then we can all have a go.

If you think we are sitting around MAN on full pay with no flying then you are considerably thicker than you appear in your posts.

The MAN based crews are being used on the Air Callin ACMI contract in Noumea & BZZ-ASI-MPA MoD run & supplement the Air India operations ex-LHR with an occasional SFB on the 757 to keep in check.

The LHR & LGW crews operate on primarily the Air India ops & will supplement the BZZ work, although I believe a few volunteered for a 2 month stint in Noumea & the odd 757 trip.

Your question "...what am I missing here?" I would say brains, commercial accumen & an insight into long haul airline & ACMI operations.

Now would you like to have a pop at us over anything else or have you had enough of looking like an ignorant?

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Re: 737 to YVR!?

I don't think it went to YVR as it isn't the correct flight number. GSM 940 doesn't 'ring any bells' as an ex-MAN departure so it may be a 'feeder'.

I know the 757 did YHM-YVR (posn) YVR-YYC-KEF-GLA(?) because 'FG & 'PT were both at LTN for scheduled maintenance. 'FG being late out of the hangar.

I've been on post trip days off, SEP & CRM groundschool refresher & requested days off, so I haven't been flying or in the office recently.

I believe Air Comet have been doing sub's for us & 'PT is now operating on the Falklands contract for us.

A 737 was indeed used on one of the legs for pax from/to YVR. I think it was GLA-LGW-GLA and DUB-MAN-DUB, etc .......... It has never taken pax to West Coast Canada!:ugh:

This is a first, GSM are using an Air Comet A310 inbound from YVR to MAN ( according to reports).
Tommy Cook operates a DAILY service from MAN to Pearson (YYZ) & multiple departures on A330 to YVR & YYC, Monarch also do the odd Calgary,so no, GSM & Transat are not the only operators from MAN to Canada by a long way.

Well Globespan were great today. They changed their flight schedule but failed to tell anyone about it including their own handling company staff! BRS flight moved to the afternoon - pax not told either.

At least the 752 is sitting in BRS so you know your still going!

Think the CAA are actually in discussions over GSMs future?