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EnnBee 19th Oct 2008 07:10

Are You Kidding?
 

How can anyone give the command "Brace X 3" if this is not a planned crash landing.

Stay on course report on the facts don't speculate
Airlines have standardized communications (public address and non-verbal). Those signal(s) are not always, "BRACE BRACE BRACE".

Properly trained Flight Attendants will initiate brace commands when cabin conditions present; with or without said signals from the F/D.

Stay on course, report the facts?!

Go away.

InvestigateUdom 21st Oct 2008 15:41

a little help?
 
I'm interested in learning more about OT's B747 operations. If you can help, please contact me at: [email protected]

FrequentSLF 21st Oct 2008 18:14

Seems that someone proved that they could fly the MDs to HKG, whether is safe is still up to discussion....but when I raised the question if was legal or not, someone shut me up... anyway my last post on this thread...hopefully will be closed soon

InvestigateUdom 21st Oct 2008 20:16

A posting in The Nation regarding the crash and investigation, referring only to material the DCA has admitted to.

If you think its fair, please share it.

LordLucan 22nd Oct 2008 08:19

Excellent summary of the current situation, Bonnie. :ok:

(I have sent you a PM regarding a small typo in the article.)

InvestigateUdom 20th Nov 2008 14:41

crash report
 
(I should have posted this information a while ago, please forgive my delay)

In an interview with a reporter from a major US newspaper, the Director of Flight Standards in Thailand claims:
1) The DCA was told in July 2007 that Thailand's aviation was "seriously deficient". Obviously, no meaningful action was taken by the DCA.
2) According to this person, completed crash reports for the Surat Thani crash and the explosion (center fuel tank) in Bangkok exist but have never been made public.
3) The report for OG269 will not be completed until March 09 (despite all the BS claims by Withichai and Chiasak) and - he says - will be made public due to increased interest in this crash.

By the way, the DCA has given One-Two-Go permission to resume flights. (In reality, One-Two-Go has been illegally flying internationally Orient Thai routes Hong Kong to Bangkok since Oct.)

InvestigateUdom 26th Nov 2008 21:05

crash investigation information from the DCA
 
InvestigateUdom.com proof and evidence. Look for Nov 26, 2008

Dan Winterland 30th Nov 2008 08:02

What suprises me is that the wreckage is still at HKT, visible from the terminal! It's covered, but still recognisable. The tail section is clearly defined.

Brenoch 1st Dec 2008 05:18

Not to mention a large section of a wing...

InvestigateUdom 1st Dec 2008 13:26

In July '08, The NTSB told said a lack of care for the evidence/wreckage is common "in countries like Thailand".

Five Livers 1st Dec 2008 14:32

Being stuck in Thailand at the moment thanks to the political situation and getting increasingly desperate, I phoned OX reservations in BKK today looking for a seat to HKG.

The response was an unequivocal - 'Not operating'.

Koll 1st Dec 2008 16:23

You and a lot more in the same situation.....

tbavprof 2nd Dec 2008 22:50

They're Back
 
From the Bangkok Post today. In the midst of all the confusion with the airports closed


Orient Thai has announced it will offer free flights for Thais left in Hong Kong to fly back to U-tapao today, it said. Thai passengers have to pay only the airport tax in Hong Kong, it added.

Orient Thai was allowed to resume flights on Nov 26 after a fatal accident on Phuket last year involving an aircraft from its sister airline, One-Two-Go. But it decided not to schedule flights until today when One-Two-Go was also to receive permission to resume operations.

LordLucan 4th Dec 2008 07:57

Just got SMS from them:

"12Go starts flying on 5 Dec 08. Fare starts from 1,950 Book now call 1126 or www.fly12go.com"

Over my dead body. :mad:

Finn47 4th Dec 2008 17:24

In this new article about One-Two-Go starting operations to Chiang Mai and Phuket tomorrow, Udom is quoted saying he will "monitor the situation" after one week of operations and "if passengers seem confident" :hmm: he will expand activities to other previous routes....

One-Two-Go to resume ops

InvestigateUdom 5th Dec 2008 02:42

6th must be last
 
http://investigateudom.com/files/best_travel_2007.jpg
6th place must be last place.

InvestigateUdom 23rd Dec 2008 19:22

Petition Update
 
We've sent the petition to the new Prime Minister. Perhaps he will care about travelers lives as well as their wallets...

Thaihawk 1st Jan 2009 15:55

DMK 25 December
 
Waiting here for too long on Christmas day for a friend,I saw 170 plus PAX check-in for the One Two Go flight to HKT that day,then when that had gone,the check-in was busy with a flight of theirs going to CNX,so people have not been deterred from flying OG.That included plenty of farang(westerners).

Xeque 2nd Jan 2009 04:51

Trouble is that it's all very well banging away on a forum like this but the people who are at risk are not contributors or readers.
How many of the people who boarded the flights Thaihawk observed actually read Pprune? How many of them would have been aware of the Phuket crash 2 years ago? How many of them really care when it's the low fares that made them decide to fly with 1-2-Go?
To keep this story alive you need the assistance of the regular press/media but for them it's all a non-story now so who is going to continue to use airtime or print space on it?
Udom's got his AOL back again. The circumstances under which that was allowed to happen are immaterial now.
Time to put the matter to rest I think.
Until the next time he kills a bunch of innocent folks.
Happy New Year.

Lantern10 11th Jan 2009 01:25

How many know
 
I frequent a number of Thailand forums, as it's where I go for holidays. I have never seen this subject discussed on any of them. The level of corruption there has to be seen to be believed.
I'll send a PM to a couple of the admins and enquire if this is too touchy a subject for them. If it's OK will post a link over there.


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