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Mr Angry from Purley 29th Oct 2010 18:41

Oliww - might have been that the package was "sorted" at EMA iso CGN (I'm not an expert so not sure if it would have been "sorted" in CGN and EMA although you would think so if it came from Yemen). The only thing i would say is that security and the tracking of goods is pretty hot at UPS/DHL etc so i suspect a lot of work is going on right now and it will either all come out in the wash, or be an over reaction. :\

daz211 29th Oct 2010 19:15

UPS In DXB last month...
 
Has anyone else thought that this might make people look abit closer into
last months crash of a UPS B747 in DXB ?

OliWW 29th Oct 2010 20:42

At the time of the alert in East Midlands UPS flight 5X-232 from Cologne (Germany) to Philadelphia,PA (USA) via East Midlands, a B763 registration N330UP, was on the ground at East Midlands having arrived at 02:30L (01:30Z). The flight departed again at 04:30L (03:30Z) on schedule after the originally suspicious package was found harmless.

eggc 29th Oct 2010 20:47

Just watched Obama's press conference, and he said that two devices have been intercepted that both contained explosive material, one at DXB and the other at EMA !?!?

doningtonphil 29th Oct 2010 21:17

It is amazing the limited and delayed information that is coming out about this story.
I work for TNT at one of their call centres. We received email notification early this morning advising the LGG-EMA-BFS flight had been diverted to Stansted due to a security issue so no freight was getting to N. Ireland. Later in the morning our call voumes rocketed as we heard that DHL's national call centre (at Millenium House at the eastern end of the airport opposite where teh UPS planes park) had been evacuated due to a bomb threat.

Bizzarely, an email was circulated by management that they had a complaint from EMA saying they were receiving calls from the public asking about an incident at the airport. EMAs complaint was that people were saying TNT were giving that information out (it is sometimes nice to have an explaiation for customers why their consignment isnt in N. Ireland or why they have had to wait 5 mins for their call to be answered)

Meanwhile, by lunchtime the only news story I could google was the Leicester Mercury stating that a small area of the airport had been closed with 1 service road closed but that the airport had been opertaional throughout. Minor side issue.

All of a sudden Barrack Obama wakes up and its a matter of national security, but as far as EMA were concerned it was just a minor inconvenience to a routine day

757 Speedbrakes 29th Oct 2010 23:17

Although not under great circumstances, having President Obama talk about East Midlands Airport on world wide tv will generate a few more 'hits' on Google and might make a few people in the UK remember there's an airport here!!

FR- 31st Oct 2010 18:52

Ryanair's summer time table is starting to be loaded on the website,

Tenerfie is up to 4x a week M/W/F/Su

Alicante is up to 9x a week, twice one a friday and monday.

So how many a/c at EMA next summer 7 or 8?

fr-

OliWW 31st Oct 2010 20:22

Same as last year but with a few more flights squeezed in with a shuffle of times.

Palma is also upto 9x weekly

Benjamino 2nd Nov 2010 13:27

Hi guys,

First post here - been lurking on the forum for a while and following this topic for route news etc.

There's currently a strange flight showing on the EMA arrivals/departures and I just wondered if anyone has any ideas what it is.

Departures
Tuesday, 02 November 2010
TCX961G 21:15 East Midlands Scheduled 21:15
Arrivals
Wednesday, 03 November 2010
TCX961G 00:35 East Midlands Scheduled 00:35

Hopefully this is the right forum - was gonna post it in Spotters Corner but then opted for here.

Cheers!

Nimrod6 2nd Nov 2010 15:01

Northern Lights flight?

almost professional 2nd Nov 2010 17:13

Almost certainly the Northern Lights flight, took it myself couple of years ago-well worth it

Mr Angry from Purley 2nd Nov 2010 21:54

might be old news but i hear the aeropark is getting a nimrod next year...

Benjamino 3rd Nov 2010 01:31

Ah cheers guys. Didn't know such flights existed... wouldn't mind doing that myself.

ematom1 3rd Nov 2010 22:33

Bmibaby new routes summer 2011 Ibiza and Verona ibiza 3times weekley and Verona 2times weekley

easy6826 8th Nov 2010 15:36

easyjet
 
I have heard from a good source that ezy are to return to ema next summer on a few as yet unnanounced routes. W patterns from lpl, alittle like the ones from DSA that are about to cease.

aidoair 8th Nov 2010 16:07


I have heard from a good source that ezy are to return to ema next summer on a few as yet unnanounced routes. W patterns from lpl, alittle like the ones from DSA that are about to cease.
Ok, well hopefully they will think of some new routes to offer instead of the likes of ALC, BCN, PMI & GVA etc as since they left, the EMA market has been covered very well by FR, bmibaby and now LS... not to mention all the charters.

Just for a quick example, some weeks next summer Ryanair will have up to 9x weekly flights to ALC as well as bmibaby offering up to 10x weekly flights to ALC. Then there's Thomson with 2x weekly and now Jet2 with 3x weekly. That's a total of 24 flights a week to choose from EMA alone.

Unless they offer somewhere different, I feel there is enough competition at EMA now and I don't know what easyJet would be able to add back, especially if on W-pattern routes...????

Mr Angry from Purley 8th Nov 2010 16:52

ABX 767-200 has replaced DHL AIR on the regular EMA-CVG-EMA flights as of tonight. Aircraft can be seen in the dark most nights and in day light mondays:\

easy6826 8th Nov 2010 18:14

EZY will be using A320. Apparently routes to FUE,LPA,PFO and RHO are in the pipeline. an announcement could be made on November 15th

aidoair 8th Nov 2010 19:06


EZY will be using A320. Apparently routes to FUE,LPA,PFO and RHO are in the pipeline. an announcement could be made on November 15th
I guess this is good news, though nothing new or any underserved routes there. Also its going to use up an A320 for almost a full day and depending which base crews it, it is again is going to be expensive like the DSA operation. They must surely have some long term plans for EMA if this is going to be announced... also people in the Midlands and South Yorkshire are probably going to get fed up with them if they just keep stopping and starting routes and moving back when they feel like it...?

OltonPete 8th Nov 2010 20:32

easyjet
 
Have you got the right airport?

FUE, LPA operated by FR and RHO & PFO by Jet2.

Also if operated by a Liverpool aircraft then it will involve road transport
for crew on every single flight (or hotel) with the associated extra costs and crew hours (if not overnighting)?

Sounds like total madness

Pete

ematom1 9th Nov 2010 17:03

Great news on easyjet if they decide to stay this year finaly things are starting to look up for ema with the new airlines and routes easyjet flybe bmi babys new routes and jet2 new routes fr summer 11. Can anyone tell me how the flybe route is doing? Thanks

wanna_be_there 9th Nov 2010 17:12

maybe seeing all the increases at EMA has made easyjet realise they made a mistake?
Shame they cant make up their mind on which airport they want to use though. EMA then to DSA and now back to EMA!

OliWW 9th Nov 2010 19:31

TCX have a busier schedule next summer, three aircraft are currently needed on a number of days, with extra W patterns as well, but obviously, being so far ahead, things will clearly change, the current schedule to date is looking a bit like this...

Mon
PMI/... - A320
SSH/DLM - B752
ZTH/CFU/BJV - A320

Tue
.../... - A320
PMI/MLA - A320
HRG/AYT - B752

Wed
NBE/FUE - A320
IBZ/RHO - A320
ADB - A321 (W Pattern)

Thu
KGS/KGS - A320
ACE/AYT - A320
FAO/... - A320

Fri
PMI/TFS/DLM - A320
JSI/AYT - A320
MAH - B752 (W Pattern)
REU - A320 (W Pattern)

Sat
PMI/AYT - A320
PFO/LPA - A320

Sun
MAH/LCA - A320
NBE/DLM - A320


Thomson is currently looking like this... however it is still to remain decided whether there will be 2x B73H, or 2x B75W...

Mon
SKG/LPA - B73H
DLM/BJV - B75W
FNC/CFU - B73H

Tue
PMI/TFS - B75W
ALC/AYT - B73H
ZTH/REU/PMI - B73H
POP - B76W

Wed
MAH/RHO - B75W
IBZ/FUE - B73H
PFO/NBE - B73H
CUN - B76W

Thu
PMI/SSH - B75W
ACE/DLM - B73H
FAO/HER - B73H

Fri
NAP/PMI - B73H
CFU - B75W
ZTH/BOJ - B73H

Sat
IBZ/ALC/PMI - B73H
MAH/PFO - B75W
PMI/RHO - B73H

Sun
PMI/SSH - B75W
HER/AGP - B73H
LCA/DLM - B73H

stuart-travel 10th Nov 2010 09:57

Ema Summer 2011
 
On thur tcx have a second kgs flight from the based aircraft plus a w flight.

regards
stuart

OliWW 10th Nov 2010 18:45

That is how it was for S10, and how I'd assume it'd be for S11 as well, as ACE would then follow off FAO, but according to their timetable, its not the case, unless something changes

gotaplan 11th Nov 2010 09:00

Both the based TCX aircraft 9as of last week) are now A321's - one of which is fitted with an ACT which gives it the capability to to get to SSH & HRG. B757 operations in S.2011 will be confined to 'W' patterns

ryansf 11th Nov 2010 10:09

One of the reasons easyJet left DSA was because of the logistics problems with not having crew based there, and the costs involved. If they couldn't make it work then, why would they do it again with EMA?

easy6826 11th Nov 2010 11:43

I have now heard this from numerous EZY crew that I previously worked with that they are to return to EMA and also apparently the cleaners at EMA have an EZY registered A320 unit on their schedule for next summer also.

I have heard that the announcement will be made on November 15th to announce these apparent routes.

OliWW 12th Nov 2010 14:11

NEW
 
New for W11/12 - Thomson, Cape Verde - Boa Vista... will be ops on a B75W... so am guessing once again for W11 as far away as it seems to be right now will be 1x B738 and 1x B75W

Justin Cyder-Belvoir 12th Nov 2010 18:13

Cleaners
 
easy6826, that's because FR will only have 4 based units next summer.

FR- 12th Nov 2010 20:00

fr 4 based a/c next summer try 8

ematom1 13th Nov 2010 13:26

was at the airport this morning the thomson 767W charter to barbados was parked on the ups ramp and boarded from a bus service from the terminial gates. Anyone know why, lack of ramp space? if so how are ema going to cope next summer if easy jet have another aircraft along with the jet2 757? :uhoh:

Boeing Junkie 13th Nov 2010 18:26

Can anyone confirm if G-MEDJ left this afternoon?

Has it been in maintenance for the last couple of weeks?

OliWW 13th Nov 2010 18:34

Stands 21 and 43 are usually free for the B76W, but weren't this morning... as the B76W was coming in empty, it was only really a case of a quick turn around, so it went to UPS instead, usually does when its in empty...

easyflyer83 13th Nov 2010 23:22

Regarding easyjet, many of you need to realise that whilst w patterns/out of base flying can raise challenges, the actual nightstopping of crew I'd not one of them. Productivity wise, the crew won't lose hours by nightstopping (infact in theory they can reduce rest period) and still operate as much as they would in base over the same period. Also, nightstopping crews is not that expensive on the scheme of things. Airlines have very preferential hotel contracts and ezy has some nightstops across the network already in addition to nightstops associated with out of base flying and training.

aidoair 13th Nov 2010 23:58


Also, nightstopping crews is not that expensive on the scheme of things. Airlines have very preferential hotel contracts and ezy has some nightstops across the network already in addition to nightstops associated with out of base flying and training.
Well if what I was told about the costs of the EZY operation at DSA for the hotel alone added up to is true, then no wonder it was an expensive venture to set up. They were having to allocate upto 12 rooms on some nights along with the use of a meeting room for crew briefings etc. I understand the cost to EZY would be quite small for a short period of time for what they could potentially make in revenue, but in the long run it has got to bite despite reduced/special rates.

TCX69 14th Nov 2010 00:08


Can anyone confirm if G-MEDJ left this afternoon?
Has it been in maintenance for the last couple of weeks?
G-MEDJ did leave this afternoon & pretty much went straight out to IKA. G-MEDJ has been having a cabin re-fit with the existing old BMed seats replaced with brown leather ones. G-MEDK is now in EMA for a repaint into full livery. With G-MEDH to follow the day it leaves.

Boeing Junkie 14th Nov 2010 19:43

TCX69
 
Cheers :ok:

Binder 15th Nov 2010 05:53

Re DSA,

It never could and never was going to make money for EZY.

It was purely a commercial agreement with Peel Holdings to permit more favourable contractual terms at John Lennon (and also enhance the profile of DSA)

Nothing to do with Hotel costs etc.

Binder

ryansf 15th Nov 2010 12:50

No easyJet announcement yet then? Hmmm....


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