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paul atkins 20th Jul 2012 21:15

flybe -amsterdam
Anyone know when flybe routes to paris, amsterdam and jersey go on sale?? seems to be takeing a while

Been in touch with flybe flights to Amsterdam go on sale in November for April 2013 start

ematom1 21st Jul 2012 08:41

any news on the Jersey and Paris routes?

VC10man 21st Jul 2012 15:21

I use the Jersey route and the plane (737) is often quite full. What is going to happen when Flybe takes over with their little prop planes? I suppose the fares will go up to compensate for the smaller planes.
I wish Easyjet had come back to take on the Baby routes, instead of Flybe's prop planes, Jet 2's antique planes and Monarch's rather odd selection of hired aircraft.

SFCC 21st Jul 2012 21:18

Flybe do have jets, you know!
What makes you think they're putting Q400's on any specific route?

JobsaGoodun 22nd Jul 2012 09:29

VC10, I think that you're right. I imagine that the price paid with Flybe will be higher on average but there will still be some good deals about.

The thing to bear in mind is that BMIBaby were reported to have racked up losses of £100million over the past 4 years so whatever you've been paying for your ticket was mainly unsustainable in commercial terms.

VC10man 22nd Jul 2012 11:38

Yes, I understand that, but Easy and Ryanair can do cheap deals and appear to make money.
I think Flybe's jets are smaller than a 737-500 and with a lot of passengers to Jersey the prices will go up.
I've flown on a prop plane before, I much prefer a jet,
I've said it before but I wish Easy had come back to EMA, for a low cost airline I like them!

EZY7117LPL 22nd Jul 2012 13:06

EasyJet will not come back to EMA for a long time, they pulled out because it wasnt profitable enough not because of competition from BMI Baby so why would they jump back in as soon as bmi baby was going?

ATNotts 22nd Jul 2012 13:54

Prop Planes

I'm having trouble understanding what is wrong with modern propeller driven aircraft. The Q400 is reasonably comfortable, flies "above the weather" for the most part, and isn't actually that much slower on reasonably short sectors such as AMS and CDG where so much of the total block time is taken up with taxiing, particularly at larger airports. Certainly, given a choice between the 146 / RJ services of jets and the Q400 I know which I would rather travel on, and it has paddles rather than fans!

If you were comparing older turboprops like the Viscount and F27, then yes I can appreciate your comments - though personally I very much enjoyed travelling on both types!

As for fares, they will be set appropriately in order to make a profit - if they don't then FlyBe won't be around on the routes for long.

VC10man 23rd Jul 2012 14:51

EZ7117LPL, I thought Easy pulled out of EMA because of Ryanair's increasing presence. I seem to remember them chucking their toys out of their pram.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/nerd.gif
Am I wrong with this?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/shiner.gif

FR- 23rd Jul 2012 15:04

easyJet pulled out of EMA due to Andy not liking small bases, the yield was actually high, more than other bases in the network. I don't see easyJet coming back anytime soon if at all. If any midlands base, it will be BHX.


OliWW 25th Jul 2012 13:58

Flybe routes have popped up today! From the 28th October

AMS - 1x Daily
CDG - 2x Daily
JER - 3x Weekly

JC25 25th Jul 2012 14:31

Flybe have also stated that they plan to up AMS to double daily next summer and will upgrade from Q400 to E175.

I assume the only reason they are basing one aircraft at EMA instead of two as they first announced is that they simply don't have enough aircraft. Two additional aircraft are being added to the Brussels Airlines wet lease from Sep/Oct.

mikerawsonderby 26th Jul 2012 09:37

...or they got in early and lied about their intentions/capability to prevent anyone else jumping in. EMA passengers have been treated incredibly shabbily throughout this whole sorry affair.

JC25 26th Jul 2012 10:07

I think that is rather unlikely. They are after all doing every route that they initially stated, just rather the frequency is a little less due to one less available aircraft. There are aircraft being moved all over the place this winter to accommodate new routes and increase flying for Brussels Airlines.

globetrotter79 26th Jul 2012 10:59

Interesting that whilst flyBe don't seem to have been able to find another aircraft to be able to base at EMA to offer a 'decent' double daily business schedule on EMA-AMS-EMA (where they would have the route to themselves and, one assumes, therefore reasonable yield)...they have been quite happy to dedicate an aircraft to a new double daily BHX-AMS-BHX (with Mon/Thu/Fri extras) from end October!

I can only assume that they view the 'protection' of their patch in the Midlands as the most important thing: I guess they feel that getting themselves quickly onto BHX-AMS-BHX means that it will be less likely that easyJet will turn up in their 'patch' soon..

OliWW 26th Jul 2012 11:30

Where KLM when you need them!

J-Guy 26th Jul 2012 12:05

Iím happy to see an airline taking over the East Midlands to Jersey route. It has a long history and is one of the most popular routes from Jersey.

On the other hand, the loss of bmibaby is a big setback, and I think the route can sustain more than what Flybe plan to offer. Summer 2013 is obviously some time away, but I hope there is some improvement then.

FCAcrewboy 27th Jul 2012 09:27

New parking
Anyone know of any movements to parking once Baby goes? I've heard TOM are moving to there old stands by the terminal?

ematom1 11th Aug 2012 14:54

Anyone know why Thomson Airwways managing director is at east midlands this week?

Wellington Bomber 11th Aug 2012 16:26

Going on holiday maybe

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