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Jamesair 11th Aug 2008 10:30

Cork was added very late this summer as well for some reason.

en2r 11th Aug 2008 11:06


Cork was added very late this summer as well for some reason.
Yes flights on the route are usually only put on sale 2/3 months before the start of the season. For example I think flights for this summer were out on sale around Christmas, while flights for the winter were put on sale about the start of July. Flights for next summer will probably be on sale by Christmas.

AviationNE 11th Aug 2008 12:08

New Handling agent.
 
Vancancies now advertised on the airport website for the new gate handling. This really will spread it thin. Three is too many me thinks.

Topjet 11th Aug 2008 15:29

Gate Aviation/handling
 
Who are they going to be handling? Just T3?

transwede 11th Aug 2008 17:19

Gate Aviation

Gate Aviation as far as anyone is aware are only handling T3 at present, but other airlines, who may not be so happy with current service could very well move over I suppose. Have Gate actually obtained their license to handle and operate yet?

Ryanair

While all this talk of FR and a baseis all well and good and true, there is a market still untapped in terms of route network - we need to remember that while NCL has spare runway capacity, this cannot necessarily be said for apron and terminal space. I have been led to believe that NCL at certain times of the day is now capacity restricted in terms of terminal etc. The mentioned routes, could do very well if chosen carefully and operated at right frequency, though I would say no more than 3 aircraft at any future base. Personally, I do not think FR would select NCL in the current market, but never say never and as always people can be wrong!:{

claireybaby 11th Aug 2008 18:12

when will they start handling T3? From this year?

humper and dumper 11th Aug 2008 20:00

Gate Aviation
 
Claireybaby

Gate Aviation should be handling T3 towards the end of Oct 08.

Ops Guy 12th Aug 2008 14:30

Plenty of Apron space available. Just not on Pier. Stands 21 - 25 are empty most nights. :ouch:

I would of thought any expansion would have come from Flybe / easy. Dont think we could have Ryanair, as well as Flybe, Jet 2 and easy. NCL has the right mix of airlines and although we all want to see expansion, I think bringing in FR would be a bad move. :uhoh:

skyman771 12th Aug 2008 18:08

'Capacity issues' must say from the punters view point I think NCL makes it's own problems. Take BRS for example they seem to cope well with what appears to be much less limited resource with or without stand capacity. Any how another example yesterday at NCL, approaching the end of a fine flight on an RJ700 I noted that we were being vectored half way to Norway for 25, which in itself is no cause for complaint & my wife looked quizzingly at me when I cursed at realising what was happening. I noted that we were probably around #3 in traffic & that she'd see where I was coming from on disembarkation. Sure enough remote stand & bus which only although only took 10 minutes but enough time to allow the discharge of 400+ punters in front at customs. To their credit all 4 posts were open, but zero common sense being applied, when two lines were set for our 'Non EU' visitors the result being that NCL appears to be the only airport that I have noted where being an 'Alien' results in preferential treatement in that processing time significantly less than for others :ugh: The situation was not assisted by a jobsworth appearing to be the promoted customs tea lady wandering down the line half way down the pier shouting at individuals to switch off their mobiles immediately even though they were stuck in the pier some 5 minutes away from even the cattle pens. For my own part I just bit my lip, knowing that there is little one can do to increase processing volumes when arrival rates display a wave effect, but never the less feel that it's image that counts and that on this NCL are not yet there.

transwede 12th Aug 2008 18:24

Emirates Statistics
 
Does anyone know where you can get statistics regarding EK NCL-DXB route?

I'm looking for pax breakdown in terms of O&D and connecting traffic and recent loads in terms of pax and cargo? Is information like this released, I know you can get pax stats on CAA?!:confused:

10 DME ARC 12th Aug 2008 19:21

Skyman
Surely the way immigration handle pax's cannot be blamed on the airport? Other than provide the facilities to do the job, which they have, they cannot control it any more? I have said in the past immigration seem to have different ways of doing things at each airport in the UK! For example returning to MAN from Moroco 1am in the morning no one there to meet us in immigration?? NCL seems to process every one full stop with a passport swipe where as others are happy for EU passports holders to give a quick flash of their photo!?!?

skyman771 12th Aug 2008 19:57

10 DME ARC I'm not blaming 'the airport' but immigration is surely an issue in any matrix concerning ultimate capacity issues. In respect of

NCL seems to process every one full stop with a passport swipe where as others are happy for EU passports holders to give a quick flash of their photo!?!?
then I too have noted the rather pedantic behaviour of those customs officers 'on guard' at NCL which I also noted was inconsistent when one considers the handling and expeditious proceedures of many other EU airports. Is this just another 'union issue'?:suspect:

Jamesair 12th Aug 2008 23:13

TRANSWEDE

I've no idea where that information can be accessed. All I've seen is vague press releases giving a % figure for transfers and total figures of freight carried over a period.

I would think IATA would have the detailed breakdown but I'm not sure if these figures are published. May be too commercially sensitive.

GrahamK 13th Aug 2008 07:05

EK info:

Pax loads you can get from CAA

Everything else you'd need to ask if the EK board whether they would be willing to divulge that, which I'd doubt.

At a guess, I'd say connecting traffic would be 80% + through Dubai though, perhaps even as high as 95%, but that's just gueeing on my behalf.

OliWW 13th Aug 2008 18:01

im coming upto NCL this weekend, could anyone tell me what aircraft are based there over the summer period as im not 100% sure

tiffairways 14th Aug 2008 09:59

POP Summer 09
 
Hi guys! Just thought Id share the bad news! My son was due to go on a 2 week holiday next year with some friends to Puerto Plata in Dom Rep, Thomas Cook rang earlier this morning to inform us that Monarch will no longer by flying from Newcastle to POP next year and my son will have to now travel from Manchester! Meaning no flights to Dom Rep for Summer 09 :ugh:

homer09001 14th Aug 2008 10:20

ThomsonFly fly to Puerto Plata(is that how you spell it?) from NCL?

transwede 14th Aug 2008 10:29

Thomsonfly will only be operating CUN and SFB in their long haul programme as far as I am aware - well according to web anyway??

OliWW at present NCL has based aircraft from EZY, T3, TOM, TCX and TOM. Depending on what period you're visiting will depend on what you see - many airlines fly in and out.

Ops Guy 14th Aug 2008 12:56

No Monarch

Thats a massive blow (if it turns out to be true) :{:{


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