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Envoy320 29th May 2009 11:34

tui is tui now is it not.... if tui falls....so does TOM....

i believe FCA no longer exists...

MUFC_fan 29th May 2009 11:44

Last year it did.

If TUI made a loss of £289 then it doesn't mean TOM made a loss. I understand that if the parent company went under then so would TOM but if TOM is currently profitable, then I don't understand why they would tamper with TOM when it would be other areas of the business that would need tuning.

Just my thoughts! Enjoy IBZ!:ok:

Channex101 29th May 2009 12:03

Sad little life if all your bothered about on a 2hr flight is a few episodes of the simpsons, will and grace or even some crappy movie
May i remind you, jet2 is a low cost airline.... IFE is one of the things you dont need on short flights, so MUFC if you want to watch your soaps then get yourself booked on TOM or whoever!
Jet2 may have a few delays but what airline dosnt, i remember flying FCA to SSH about 2 years ago with a nice 27hr delay and a tech 757 so what goes around comes around.

So lets stop with the jet2 bashing and if you want to promote TOM and FCA so much, sod off to their thread and big um up there!

BYALPHAINDIA 29th May 2009 12:04

Mr Long = arm of the law.Lol!! has cut summer capacity 20%, Winter bookings have so far gone up by 10%.

Obviously Egypt is the fastest growing destination, Expect to see even more flights to SSH, HRG, LXR.

Sadly LBIA will probably never see a TOM base again!!

They had meetings at the same time LS arrived back in 2003/4, But the airport was going to charge TOM 15.00 per pax to handle.

The airport I am told charges LS 50p per pax to handle?

I don't think any carrier will attempt to park alongside 11 LS based aircraft every night?

MUFC_fan 29th May 2009 12:21

Sorry Channex:} I saying nothing to do with Jet2, I was merely saying that TOM had IFE on that specific route on that day with extra leg room - no need to get your knickers in a twist!:ok:

757 Speedbrakes 29th May 2009 12:40

MUFC fan actually does raise a good point regards to IFE - even if he supports the most hated football team in the world (sorry!) ;)

It's all very well saying Jet2 is a LCC but now they are selling package holidays and bumbling off to more exotic climbs outside of the EU then passengers will start to take more notice of things like IFE, food, seat pitch et al.

The removal of a row of seats on the 75 has helped a little. Jet2 used to carry Mezzo Movies, a kind of portable DVD player that allowed two passengers to share the one unit and wern't too badly priced to begin with and I belive were only available on the Canary Island routes.

However, the rental cost for the airline was quite high and they weren't marketed too well. Being jet2, the only answer was to keep increasing prices to such a point that it would have been cheaper to drive to block buster or go to the cinema than rent one in flight, hence no one wanted to watch them (except the flight deck) and they were discontinued :rolleyes:

MUFC_fan 29th May 2009 12:52

As it is a 767 it is personal IFE with 33" legroom.

However, IFE is available on all charter flights (I don't know about ZB? Have been with their schedule services) and as LS creep into this market more and more they need to compete efficiently.

Going through their holiday website though, it does seem they have focussed more on price than quality...

aidoair 29th May 2009 14:46


Today 13:52MUFC_fanAs it is a 767 it is personal IFE with 33" legroom.

However, IFE is available on all charter flights (I don't know about ZB? Have been with their schedule services) and as LS creep into this market more and more they need to compete efficiently.

Going through their holiday website though, it does seem they have focussed more on price than quality...
Actually i'm afraid as far as i am aware and since this monday flight has been operating since the begining of the season the aircraft is in the shorthaul Y328 config so no 33'' seat pitch.

Remember this year all the longhaul config ex TOM and ex FCA 767 aircraft are operating solely on longhaul flights except on a very select few shorthaul routes compared to last year...

Depending on the actual aircraft though you may get the seat back IFE but in shorthaul config (so 29-30" seat pitch), this is because the aircraft would have operated longhaul thomson plus flights last summer... Once again you may just get the standard overhead TVs.

Channex101 29th May 2009 16:33

757speedbreaks....
The mezzo's were available on every route in the end, only problem was that someone has signed a contract for the lease of them and Mr Meeson wasnt happy when we found out how much, shame tho, they used to bump the c/c commission up a fair amount. They were a good deal, you used to flog them all on every flight just about!

If jet2 are going to be doing longer flights, such as the new SSH from NCL thats coming in the winter then yes maybe IFE wouldnt be a bad thing, ut personally if its not installed i wouldnt bother, those 757s need replacing anyway eventually... but if they are fitting winglets maybe they plan on holding on to them a little longer.

trebor 30th May 2009 09:25

The extra legroom seats on Jet2´s 757´s are now 34" in the front cabin as far as im aware after the removal of a row of seats

Adola69 31st May 2009 22:24

Fast Bag Drop - Whats that then?
 
How fantastic Jet 2 aren't !

Arrived at Manchester Airport Jet 2 check-in hall at 0625 for an 08.00 flight departure, having already checked in on-line and had our seats allocated. All we had to do was just drop off ONE bag at the fast bag drop! This took One hour and six minutes to achieve:ugh: The ordinary check-in queue was moving faster than the one we were stuck in. On reaching the front end of the fast bag drop queue I was amazed to see the two desks being used suddenly go down to one desk, as the damsel behind the other one got up and left!! :zzz:

Finally the bag was dropped off and then it was to the Little Hiltler Society room that is passed off as security (But that's another story) On finally arriving close to the gate we were bellowed at by the boarding pass checkers that we were the last and to hurry up that we were holding up the flight:\
I told them that if they wanted passengers to turn up on time at the gate, then I suggest that in order to drop a bag off that in future it should take less than the time it took us today.
To cap it all once boarded, we were asked to move seats in order that a family could sit together ! Marvellous got switched from a window seat to an aisle. When I asked if I'd get a refund for switching from my pre-booked seat the answer was a "Probably not"
By that time my will to live had been exausted, so I just curled up and slept, and told myself over and over again, "Never ever again, - never ever again.:p

Forgive me if this has been stated in similar fashion in previous postings (I'll be very suprised if it hasn't), but without the trawling back through the 100 pages in this thread, I have no way of knowing.
Give me Monarch anyday.

LowFareFinder 1st Jun 2009 07:51

I've just got one thing to say to you - GDF!

At Jet2, we are all a Great Deal Friendlier!

Just thank your lucky stars you are not old and infirm, as we would have charged you for making the aircraft wait by terrorizing you with letters and threats.

I'm up for employee of the month next month. :E

freightdoggy dog 1st Jun 2009 14:31

Dont want you banging your head against the tray table Adola69, but we do a lot of subs for Monarch as well :}

flybar 1st Jun 2009 18:12

Used 'bag drop' at LBA and AGP four times this month - AGP takes a minute longer because they swap your online document for a Boarding Card but maximum time taken 5 minutes.

At both airports Jet2 have their own checking in staff - can't speak for Manchester.

TheMaskedDispatcher 1st Jun 2009 19:10

Jet2 - 2
 
Ah online checkin, whatever next? . .. :ugh:
'Now lets see . .have you packed this bag yourself . .hmmm tick yes or no . .YES. Has anyone given you anything to take onboard . .tick yes or no . .umm NO, what seat would you like . 'ah yes i'll have that exit row . .extra cash? certainly . .have i got any disabilites that would legally prohibit me from sitting there? no absolutley not . . . . . now that i'm through the door i'd like a wheelchair please, i DEMAND to sit where i booked last nite over a bucket of cheap wine and if i can't then i damn well want my money back!! '

T-M-D

Ernest Lanc's 1st Jun 2009 22:18


Originally Posted by Adola69
Give me Monarch anyday.

Take them an enjoy - I for one don't want them.


Originally Posted by Adola69
having already checked in on-line and had our seats allocated. All we had to do was just drop off ONE bag at the fast bag drop! This took One hour and six minutes to achieve

You have a point there - I got a bit of a shock at BLK when I had to queue for the fast bag drop on the Palma flight on the 24th, would not have took much longer to check in at the desk.

However on the return flight at Palma (or anywhere for that matter) - if you have checked in on line, you can go to security at (anytime), unlike waiting for the rush of checking in at the desk in a busy airport like Palma.

So better checking in online, long queues at the fast bag drop are not that common.

On the subject of IFE - Who needs the extra cost of it - I take a cheap portable DVD player, so who cares if Jet2 provide IFE or not - as far as I am concerned.

baps 2nd Jun 2009 07:20

MUFC fan,

You say Tui made loss of 289million but that was expected as it was over the winter period. They made a profit of 391 million last year and with bookings better than last year at higher yields expect to see a good profit this year also.

MUFC_fan 2nd Jun 2009 08:30


MUFC fan,

You say Tui made loss of 289million but that was expected as it was over the winter period. They made a profit of 391 million last year and with bookings better than last year at higher yields expect to see a good profit this year also.
Read past in the thread...it is not me you need to be telling that to...

BYALPHAINDIA 2nd Jun 2009 09:04

Quote
You say Tui made loss of 289million but that was expected as it was over the winter period. They made a profit of 391 million last year and with bookings better than last year at higher yields expect to see a good profit this year also.

Reply
True, But Winter 2008 was actually a busy & quite profitable period, With Egypt bookings boosting up the figures once again.

With the projected forecasts for Summer 09 being on a par with average bookings, Capacity has still been cut by 20%.

People are obviously booking very late or at the last minute due to the current economical mess!!

The phase-out has started on the 757's that started Ops in 1992 now, And a planned 9 aircraft will be leaving the fleet in the next 18 months or so.

Egypt bookings has helped all of the Tour Ops over the last year.

MUFC_fan 2nd Jun 2009 09:12

Egypt is a massive success and it amazes me that they are only flying 757s out there. However, I am sure that they would increase their capacity to the 767 if they had the resources to do so.

MON are currently flying MAN-SSH on the A330.

The Euro is starting to rise once again and hopefully by next summer it will be back at it's 'normal' rate.

However, I don't think it has affected loads for the LCCs very much! Maybe just yields!

TSR2 2nd Jun 2009 09:39


MON are currently flying MAN-SSH on the A330
And the 361 seat A300-600.

MUFC_fan 2nd Jun 2009 09:43

It does show how well they are doing on these routes!

I'm guessing LS would LOVE to have a 767 on that route?:}

Any news on that by the way?

BYALPHAINDIA 2nd Jun 2009 09:50

Quote
Egypt is a massive success and it amazes me that they are only flying 757s out there. However, I am sure that they would increase their capacity to the 767 if they had the resources to do so.

Reply
If you mean TOM, Some flights are on the 763 depending on the load.

Think LS are planning a 762/3 in the future?

757 Speedbrakes 2nd Jun 2009 11:22


Think LS are planning a 762/3 in the future?
Oh god here we go again..........:ugh:

When I joined LS a few years ago I was told I was very fortunate to be joining the 75 fleet as at that time we were about to get 76's!!

That was way before any of the extra chinese 75's were purchased and still no 76. I'm sure the company have looked and may have come close to purchasing one if not a few. I've also heard that Jet2 could have capitalised on charters had they owned some.

However, until one comes rolling out of the paint shop in Southend or I start a 767 conversion in the sim, I think its best to leave this rumor alone - and stick to the 787 one!! :hmm:

silverhawk 2nd Jun 2009 12:12

Well yesterday I did operate on the Jet2 777 and the day before on the Jet2 747.

No big deal really! Flew very much like a 737.

Jet2krazey 2nd Jun 2009 12:45

Future Aircraft!
 
PM was on my flight the other week, and we asked about future aircraft and PM said he is definatly looking for more 757s and 76s were planned for 2011, but he did say in the current climate aircraft prices are very favourable and if he got a deal he couldnt say no too it could be sooner! although maybe not flown on Jet2 routes more than likely wet leased out till we are ready for them. as for the 73s he said there is alot more life in them yet before they need to be replaced! :{

jethro15 2nd Jun 2009 13:04


as for the 73s he said there is alot more life in them yet before they need to be replaced!
Did he mention anything about one a/c joining the fleet?

757 Speedbrakes 2nd Jun 2009 13:28

Jet2Krazey:

If he said we're getting 767's then it'll be Airbus 330's............

If he said he'd like more 75's then the whole fleet will be replaced by 739's........

If he said they were planned for 2011 that means we're either getting them next month or not at all.........

If he said the 73's have loads of life in, then that means he really thinks they're old and nackered and will be changed asap.......

......... or did he really mean what he said ;) :ok:

righthandrule 2nd Jun 2009 16:17

Hey he does keep his word! He said Jet2 would get 4 extra check in desks at LBA and hey they got them last week!! :D He said it was going to be a lovely day one day last week - guess what the sun came out!

However there won't be any new aircraft for yonks - PM was walking up and down at LBA a few morings ago admiring his red and silver beauties like they were brand new! :rolleyes: There is still life left in the old birds!

tonker 2nd Jun 2009 17:40

We are not getting 767's, and the tech manuals have not already arrived in Manchester!:E

lbia2008 2nd Jun 2009 20:40

they may have 4 more check in desks but not the 4 staff to man them!!

crewboi83 2nd Jun 2009 22:06

Ah god not the 767 crap again!
There was a 767 SEP manual in the NCL crew room last summer left lying around, do you see any 767s online? no?
We heard all sorts, training captains off to seattle for training courses, engineers being trained up on the 767.... we even heard we had one parked up on maintenance in Shannon, and yet.... suprise suprise... NO 767!!!!
I would like to see Jet2 get them but for now, i think they need to concentrate on what they've got!
Also, just for my 2pence worth, when i joined the company the 733 was to be replaced with the Airbus family... need i say more?

aidoair 3rd Jun 2009 16:55

New York is back!
 
. . . Well it is at least from Newquay.

A special shopping city trip charter from Newquay departing on the 19th November diect to New York has been planned using a Jet2 757. With this planned I can see there being an announcement for departures from LBA and perhaps even other regional airports, albeit most likely less frequency compared to last year.

TSR2 3rd Jun 2009 17:26


New York is back!
If it is, I sincerly hope they get the pricing structure correct from the outset.

Remember last year, the lucky ones who booked first paid £579* whilst those who waited a while paid £259*.

* Basic flight cost including taxes.

airhumberside 4th Jun 2009 13:45

Is this being organised by Jet 2 or are they simply operating the flight on behalf of a 3rd party?

bravoromeosierra 4th Jun 2009 16:25

Oh behalf of a tour operator down here in Cornwall, Newells Travel I think.

luvly jubbly 5th Jun 2009 16:46

Who operated the 767 for you? (I presume the cabin crew were LS though).

I don't think Jet2 have their own ETOPS approval, so am I right in thinking that the 767 used it's own approval, whilst any LS 757 charter across the pond would have to go non-ETOPS?


LJ

Jet2krazey 5th Jun 2009 16:52

Jet2 dont have a 767? :confused: and they do have ETOPS approval for the 757!

757 Speedbrakes 5th Jun 2009 16:52


Who operated the 767 for you?
Which 767?? :confused:


I don't think Jet2 have their own ETOPS approval
Jet2 have had 180 mins approval since last year, mostly thanks to the very hard work of a couple of individuals putting in many hours work!

LS operated 4 New York charters on a 757 - namely G-LSAB :ok:

luvly jubbly 5th Jun 2009 16:56

Sorry guys, duff info (hence the question!)....

Was under the impression you sub-chartered one in for Noo Yoik........
Anyhoo. Cheers for the swift responses without too much flaming:ok:

LJ


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