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peakp 20th Apr 2007 14:30

On a email from man airport received today, under new routes it list Jet2
Man - Brussels.,not showing on Jet2 web site, any ideas from anybody.
Regards

Peak P

pwalhx 20th Apr 2007 15:44

I saw that peakp and my guess is it is a typo, as immediately below it mentions Brussels airlines and the two have become mixed. So somebody didnt proof read properly imho.

Momentary Lapse 21st Apr 2007 15:16

How is the security search area in T1 coming along? Last time I looked, the building looked the same from the outside, with no first floor extension, but the MYT entrance was closed. Tell me they're not putting it in on a mezzanine floor over and inside the original part of the hall? Headroom?!?!?!?!

bmibaby.com 23rd Apr 2007 14:20

How many aircraft does Jet2 have based at Manchester now?

Cumulogranite 23rd Apr 2007 15:52

As a slight aside, is anyone else here cheesed off with Manchesters policy on collecting pax?

I went to pick the wife up last night and it cost me £1.80 for 20 mins. Once upon a time I would have waited nearby and about the time she should come out have driven up. can't do this now. Manchester claim it is lowering carbon emmisions (seems to be the latest buzz word) but could it be more to do with revenue, and lots of it?

I am thinking about a petition on the No10 website about it, anyone care to join me as MAN are taking the preverbial over this. Is it the only airport where you can't have 5 mins to collect a passenger?

redmech 23rd Apr 2007 16:13

Jet2 currently has 3 737's and 2 757's with two wet lease a/c one of witch is been replaced by our own a/c at the end of the month.
Due to the shortage of a/c within the company a/c are borrowed off LBA and EDI to fill any gaps. ( you may see G-CELP being used with the Chanx decals)
At the weekend MAN uses a extra 757 and two 737's, There summer program has not fully go into action yet so the number of a/c based at MAN will increase for the summer.

TSR2 23rd Apr 2007 23:16

Cumulogranite
 
You are obviously not a regular user of the airport. The new system was introduced last November at Terminal 1 and early this year at Terminal 2.

If you do not wish to support the airport with a £1.80 donation, you can always pick up outside the departures hall.

AUTOGLIDE 24th Apr 2007 05:35

CUMULOGRANITE has a perfectly valid point. There's no need to reply with abuse.

jongeman 24th Apr 2007 09:05

Cumulogranite......I haven't yet had the misfortune of having to collect anyone up from any of MAN's terminals in the past 6 months. Myself and most of my family members to and fro between Manchester and Geneva, which means at the moment that we have to use LPL.:rolleyes:
I've been supporting MAN religiously all my adult life and I'm now of the opinion that if they want to play silly beggers with their users (and owners i.e. me) then I'm now happy enough to use the competition.
I think arranging to collect people from the departures levels is perfectly reasonable, or even the train station. I would, if only I could.

Cumulogranite 24th Apr 2007 11:01

Pick pax up from departures is a good idea, if it wasn't for Manchester putting out more cones than can be found on the nearby M60 roadworks to stop you, and traffic wardens that move you on after 10 seconds. It isn't about being a grumpy old fart, it is about having the **** taken out of me, and everyone else that collects there. This exercise must make MAN the biggest part of 1/2 million a year, for a service that is free at every other airport I have ever been to, including LHR.

ManchesterMan 24th Apr 2007 11:03

JONGEMAN

In a free market you are able to choose

either,so if you use LPL instead of MAN

you do so on the cost basis.

Depending where you live (ofcourse) have

you costed the two together to see which

is most economic? (Travel to and from etc).

The last time I was at LPL I noticed that they

had cut the FREE parking time down from

20 mins to 10 mins and Im sure that you had

to pay in the drop-off zone or be moved on.

I may be wrong but everyone is human.

Do Easy fly GVA all year round or do they

stop like Jet2?

MM

dwlpl 24th Apr 2007 11:22


The last time I was at LPL I noticed that they

had cut the FREE parking time down from

20 mins to 10 mins and Im sure that you had

to pay in the drop-off zone or be moved on.
At Liverpool you enter the short stay car park immediately in front of the terminal and you get 10mins free to drop off passengers. Disabled passengers can still be dropped off outside the terminal entrance.


Do Easy fly GVA all year round or do they

stop like Jet2?
EasyJet fly the Liverpool/Geneva route daily in the summer and twice daily with up to 5 flights on Saturdays in the winter.

jongeman 24th Apr 2007 13:00

MM - There are now no summer flights between MAN and GVA, with the possible exception of Saudia on Mon and Fri. I'm quite happy to use EZY at LPL, which is turning out to be a great airport.

Cumulogranite - I agree entirely. I'm wondering whether increasing public transport usage to and from MAN isn't in some ways linked to government funding of Metrolink, which has always been conditional on local authorities reducing congestion......or else.

Who ever heard of an airport that you can't roll up and pick passengers up from? I may be wrong but MAN may well be unique in this. It's obscene, and I will always try and find a way round it just out of sheer bloody mindedness.

ManchesterMan 24th Apr 2007 13:42

DWLPL

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

How much do you have to pay for 11 minutes

if you loose track of time - ?

JONGEMAN

I agree with you that LPL is a great little airport,

but I dont agree with doing something out of

'sheer bloody mindedness' if it means travelling

an extra 30 miles to save £1-80.

We are lucky to have two decent airports within

easy (no pun intended!) reach.

MM

FlyZB 24th Apr 2007 15:31

I thought that the 10 mins free was usually more trouble than it was worth. Especially in T1 where you had to fight your way through parked cars blocking every which way and by the time you had managed to waive up and down the endless rows to get to the barrier, you were in a state of panick coz the 10 minutes was very nearly up!

I hardly think that £1.80 is breaking the bank and you'll find that most people will be quite happy to pay it, providing they only use the facility once or twice a year. For more regular users I can understand, at least on principle, why they would have issues with it.

It has to be said that having worked at the airport for a number of years, I have noticed that the majority of people who complain about charges are the ones that turn up stupidly and unnecessarily early. Meeters turn up in the arrivals hall hours before the flight is due in and then moan about car park charges. Similarly in departures, it is the people that checkin 4 hours before their flight that whine about expensive shops and bars. All airports are expensive places and the more time you spend in them, the more pennies you will spend!

There is a simple solution to avoid the new pick up charges. Check the flight number on Teletext or on the airport website. Aim to arrive 30-45 minutes after the flight has landed (allowing time to taxi, disembark and collect baggage), ask the passengers to call or text you after they've cleared customs and then pick them up from the departures level where hopefully they'll be waiting for you, so you can move on quickly before the traffic wardens get to you. It's a little messy and not ideal but you if really want to avoid paying the £1.80, you can!

lplsprog 24th Apr 2007 16:13

MM
(How much after 11min)
They wont tell you this but if your crafty enough you can put your ticket in the machine after 9 min and get an extra 10 min which is the allowance to get out of the car park. (usually it takes just 2mins if in the short stay park.)

IB4138 24th Apr 2007 19:47

More rip off Britain! :mad:

Momentary Lapse 25th Apr 2007 15:09

The airport also has a rather excellent text message service that tells you the status of departing and arriving flights. That was designed to allow picker uppers to arrive to collect "just in time".

The whole area outside arrivals (esp. T1) was always a mess. Lazy and mean picker uppers would clog it up circling rather than using any of the adjacent car parks (surface or multi). It was dangerous for pedestrians, and prevented emergency vehicles ever getting in or out quickly.

Something needed to be done, and it has been. Fact is, there isn't enough space for all the cars that people would like to bring in. There is an excellent public transport hub right in the middle of the airport, plus a selection of taxi products (ok so the black cabs are a rip off), which arriving pax should make more use of. There is little need for many picker uppers to even drive in, in the first place. MA is using price and capacity management to allocate a scarce resource, just like the locos do, so what's the big deal?

Free and easy drop off/pick up is a privilege, not a right.

ManchesterMan 25th Apr 2007 20:46

IB4138
Where exactly do all the 'little englanders' live....
MM

Ringwayman 25th Apr 2007 22:17

Air Southwest is stopping the Newquay-Cardiff-MAN service in June. Cardiff Airport is seeking another operator for the route (shall we guess that Flybe will be the 1st airline they thing of?)


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