Thomsonfly are in talks with the Israeli Transport Ministries with a view to starting flights to Tel Aviv from Manchester (2-3 weekly) and Luton (daily)

http://www.totallyjewish.com/news/na...ontent_id=6152

The only 2 low cost airlines are Ryanair and easyjet? I'm sorry but I totally disagree. They may be the highest profile LCC's in Europe but there are plenty of others. Jet2 and bmibaby for starters. If they're not low cost, then what are they? Agreed that Monarch and Thomson are traditional charter airlines but both have low cost scheduled arms and these flights (ZB in particular) are not sold to package holiday passengers, 100% of the load is made up of flight only passengers booking on the internet. What does it matter which aircraft these carriers use or where they fly to, the fact of the matter is you can log onto the Monarch or Thomsonfly websites and get a flight only fare to AGP or ALC or wherever for often a far better price than EZY is offering down the road at LPL.

I personally would love to see either FR or EZY (or both!) at MAN but to say we don't have any LCC's is simply not true.

What does LS flying secong hand 737's out of MAN have anything to do with them not being a LCC?

TCX 757 - my point exactly!

Anyway, does anyone have any further information about the Thomsonfly incident this morning? Footage from the news looks pretty bad. Just glad everyone was safe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm

BBC seems to be reasonably accurate

I saw it making a turn towards Wallasey just after the incident and it was quite low ( probably less than 1000 feet )
Heard the whole incident from Mayday call which was very early after take off
to the successful return, all very calm and collected by all involved
(probably bit of a sweat in cockpit but to be expected as they would have been very busy )


Ian

Following ANA Aviation and some rumors, Thomsonfly is about to open a new route to Nantes (France). Schedules are even published on ANA (3 per week with 733's), but it is not already bookable on TOM website !

Why ? And does anybody knows something about this potentially new route ?

thanks

Manchester-Nantes
 

Aer Arann operated the route last summer. However it was dropped for this summer so it mustn't have done that well. Does anyone know what loads were like?

The loads were excellent, about 90% during summer.
This season Aer Arann operates three routes from NTE, Bristol, Cardiff and Cork, but not Manchester.

What about TOM ??

When does the new security area open in T1?

By the look of things, next summer :rolleyes:

Yup, the new security search area in T1 is due to be completed by Spring 08.

Plans to move T2 OBC up to where the Atlantic Suite currently is have also been approved and work will start on this in September, with completion due by Summer 08. Similar to T1, this will mean that the current landside retail area will become airside.

Why do they need to change the security area? What's wrong with the current one?

Aer Lingus is to resume their 4 weekly Cork service from the start of the winter timetable. Seems a bit odd to drop it for summer, but obviously they must feel that they'd generate better profits with other routes out of Cork in the summer than if they were to have a MAN link.

probably everybody jets off to warmer climes over summer period but think of family in the winter

Ian

RE the EI Cork service, does seem very strange indeed to introduce a new service in May & end it in June to re-start it in October:confused:

RE The T1 security re-jig. Judging by some of the horendous queues in T1 this week at various times, its obvious the current system doesn't work.

As very few staff & even fewer companies have seen any "plans" are there any plans to re-locate the staff deli & staff shop so that the thousands of Landside only pass holders can still use them?
Did anyone factor in the retail loss of sales from landside only staff ? The staff contribute a huge customer base for Boots & W H Smith.

Best buy shares in the T3 Spar-they may even open two tills.:eek:

Man-bos
 

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum but does anyone know what the layout is in the 757 that does the Boston service and if they have seatback PTV's?

Mr A Tis...

I believe that the staff deli and staff shop will close at the end of September. Within the plans for the terminal are improvements to the arrivals hall area, which will include new shops and catering facilities for staff and also for members of the public not travelling. This is also the case for Terminal 2 once landside becomes airside over there. Included in the proposals for T2 are a Boots and a Spar in arrivals as well as a new food court.

I have been fortunate to see the plans for both the T1 and T2 redevelopment schemes and they are both very ambitious. Not only are the security search areas being moved/improved but the exisiting airside retail and catering facilities will be given huge makeovers. The terminals will be unrecognisable by next summer. How much of what is proposed will actually materialise is another matter but seeing as both schemes have been given the go-ahead and work on the T1 scheme has actually begun, hopefully what is on those plans will be what we get.

The MAN-BOS 757 is opearted by a standard US domestic config 752:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...ng_737-800.php

The First Class cabin is not sold before departure. It is available for AA Elites to reserve before though, and just over half of the seats are set aside to be sold at the airport, I think its £75-£150 but I can't quite remember as I fit into the former category. On busier flights these do sell out quite quickly. There are quite a few exit rows available in the main cabin, so if you don't want to shell out, ask for one of these at check in.

The cabin is populated with aisle TVs at regular intervals, these can be a bit difficult to see and tempermental in their audio and visual quality, but are generally OK for the length of the flight. There are 2 movie showings.

You will get a hot lunch after departure, and a snack box before landing. There are more drinks services than you can realistically expect to keep up with.

The BOS based crews are, in my recent experience of 4 ex BOS flights, some of the best on the entire AA network.

Immigration at BOS is usually pretty quick as nothing else arrives at that exact time of day.

Hope this helps! :ok:

Man-mad
 

Does anyone have any info if another airline are going to operate the MAN-MAD route that was dumped by flybe?

Fly ZB...

You do wonder why these plans are so secret & not shared with staff or tenants.:confused:

When I went through T1 last month at 7am, several x-ray search areas were not in use, despite queues, presumably because of lack of staff.
Also the T1 airside foodcourt had huge queues because only one poor member of staff were on hand to take money for the self service catering whilst also making cappucinnos, Lattes etc. After waiting 15 minutes to pay for your hot (now cold) breakfast there was nowhere to sit as around 15 empty tables were heaped with uncleared food debris.

It;s pretty pointless spending millions on new facilities if they are NOT going to be staffed properly, as is the case now.:(