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viscount702 20th Aug 2007 18:24

I am also am wondering what GB are doing. Considering the claims when they first started things haven't gone to plan. Even their winter schedule doesn't fully use the the based aircraft if one is still based at MAN.

What service are they operating? Are they operating as BAConnect although I thought that went with the BACON sale or are they operating 2 class as BA used to.

viscount702 20th Aug 2007 18:27

FR are to increase DUB service from this winter. Are they going to increase the SNN as stated because it isn't on their website although I am sure it used to be.

Any further news on Polish or any other routes

JETSET115 20th Aug 2007 18:36

MAN
 
Wots With All The Work On The Taxiways At Man Its Like A Building Site Heard Last Night That The Taxiway Outside Nea Was Breaking Up

viscount702 20th Aug 2007 18:52

It has been stated elsewhere that there is a rumor going round that BA might use a couple of 757 on longhaul routes next summer . BOS & YYZ have been suggested.

I think it is unlikley but you never know. Although Willie Walsh ruled out expansion at MAN he did go on to refer only to european routes. BOS would be strange as they Codeshare with AA but there is doubt AA will operate next year. YYZ is also odd. No doubt just another rumor or wishful thinking.

Any more news on Aeroflot cargo or the Dublin cargo.

chiglet 20th Aug 2007 19:01


Heard Last Night That The Taxiway Outside Nea Was Breaking Up
Ah yes, that's the old A538 Wilmslow Road. I think that the old sewers may have collapsed.
watp,iktch

Suzeman 20th Aug 2007 19:24

At least there is some good news on the cargo front :)- you know that unsexy side of the business which nobody takes any notice of .....:}

Taken from the Manchester Airport July 2007 Cargo Newsletter.

"All records were broken in July as Manchester Airport recorded its highest ever figures for a monthly cargo performance and moving annual total. July’s 15,181 tonnes of freight and mail was 29.2% above last year’s equivalent month and was also the first time a monthly total had passed the 15,000 tonnes mark. The moving annual total in the twelve months to the end of July stood at a new record high of 157,169 tonnes, a 5% increase from a year ago".....

About 1500 tonnes extra came from Great Wall and Jett 8 but the long haul pax carriers also saw increases. Well done to all concerned.:D

Also from the newsletter.

"There is more new freighter business to come as Federal Express begin a four times a week MD11 service to their Memphis hub in the last week of August, Air China start a three times a week B747-400 freighter service to Shanghai in the first week of September, and Aeroflot begin a weekly DC10 freighter service also in the first week of September."

I have heard stories that the SU flight will change to 737F later?? Do they have any or which airline's aircraft will be used if this is correct?

Viscount - I must have missed the Dublin cargo story - any clues?

Suzeman




viscount702 20th Aug 2007 19:34

Suzeman

I read somewhere maybe not on this thread that the only new route on the horizon was cargo to DUB. no further information

Viscount

Ringwayman 20th Aug 2007 19:52

curiouspax
 
If the plan is for 2 daily A380s from 2012, then it's a bit of leap from 2 77WHDs i.e. an additional 800 seats per day. I'm anticipating around April-July 2010 when EK17 becomes an A380 (perhaps this could be brought forward to November 2009?) with EK19 going to A380s from November 2012, so that we have "staged" increases of 400 seats a day with 2.5 to 3 years to raise numbers to a level when the 2nd A380 can be filled with reasonable loads (60%+).

BHDflyer 20th Aug 2007 20:48

Food glorious Food!
 
Back to food, the only food which is actually well priced and tastes nice at airports, is McDonalds and Burger King. I just can't understand why Heathrows new terminal 5 will forbid the glorious 'M', and the Burger King signs, to have overpriced, swanky, celebrity chef boll*cks restaurants which their food quite frankly isn't as nice as the airport toilet brushes.:ugh:
Of course if your wise enough, you'd wait until you board your flight. I don't actually know why some people complain about airplane food (Ryanair obviously an exception), the past few occasions I've flown theres been no probs.

eastern wiseguy 20th Aug 2007 21:59


tastes nice at airports, is McDonalds and Burger King
You have been sniffing chemicals right?:}

Makes the place look "Chavvy" ...loads of litter..not the image they are looking for.

globetrotter79 21st Aug 2007 02:21

Yeah right, think about it logically...if you have a capitive audience, you'll try and eek as much cash out of their pockets as possible. I have no doubt that BAA have, much like any other airport, a commission structure for concessions...so what is the point of bringing in the mighty M if their average yield per head is much lower than other possible concessionnaires and, hence, less commission in the BAA coffers.

Let just hope the alternatives can push through the bulk custom which M's inevitably always achieve...

RobT100 21st Aug 2007 03:49

Looks like some serious delays from TCX this morning at MAN. Not good at all :confused:

Momentary Lapse 21st Aug 2007 10:07

The best catering is at the Lancaster Brasserie.

The coffee's not much more expensive than Costa, and for that you get it brought to your table by a bowing and scraping flunky, with a comfy seat and a cracking view of the runway.

The food's excellent and well priced for the quality.

MAN's best kept secret.

gsky 21st Aug 2007 10:57

The best catering is at the Lancaster Brasserie.
 
MAN's best kept secret.


well it was!!!:bored:

IB4138 21st Aug 2007 14:21


The coffee's not much more expensive than Costa
...and it's not got hidden laxatives in it! :suspect:

Tis a known fact that drinking Costa Coffee...worldwide....has an effect on the bowels, within a very short space of time! :ooh:

STATSMAN 21st Aug 2007 16:27

Old A538 Wilmslow Road
 
Would that be the bit road that became runway when the gates were closed, back in the 1950's. Ah Daks Viscounts & DC6's.


Statsman

MAN777 21st Aug 2007 17:53

It seems to have gone unnoticed that MAN is not only expanding retail facilities, it is also replacing most of the apron in stages, hence the constant taxiway diversions. I was talking to one of the contractors recently and he said that the old concrete is thick enough its just that the sub foundations (on top of cheshire clay) are not up to the job of holding up 747s 777s etc. He would not disclose exactly how much each segment was costing but he hinted each square was into 5 figures, there are a hell of a lot of squares out there, so it must be costing MAN a fortune.

JETSET115 21st Aug 2007 18:36

Expansion A Man
 
What Happened To The Expansion Plans At Man Regarding T2 And Other Areas Seems To Have Gone Quiet Keep Hearing Rumblings That The Fls Hangar Area Is Going To Be Made Into Apron Facilities Whichmeans Relocating Fls

Scottie Dog 21st Aug 2007 18:38

Man777
 
Can I refer you to the excellent posting by Roverman - Post #463 - that does indeed go into the taxiway work and numerous diversions in place at the moment.

Hopefully some of the other items that he refers to may also come to fruition.

Scottie Dog

Bagso 22nd Aug 2007 11:34

...which means Relocating Fls


yes and if rumours are true the viewing park !

757manipulator 22nd Aug 2007 11:43

I'm told this winters Zoom Calgary rotations will be operated and crewed by Zoom UK crew.

Wodrick 22nd Aug 2007 13:02

Let's get it right, it is no longer the FLS hangar, it's the MyTravel hangar, soon to be the Thomas Cook hangar. Rumour is that it is on a long lease from MIA and in the agreement is free re-location to a custom built facility should a move be required.

spannersatcx 22nd Aug 2007 15:37

Doesn't half of it belong to SRTechnics?

Wodrick 22nd Aug 2007 19:59

not anymore, the dark side came over earlier this year, about the BMI 330 time methinks

FlyZB 22nd Aug 2007 23:25

Regarding the Madrid route, if any carrier is to take this on then my money would be on Thomsonfly. They seem very keen on expanding at MAN and tend to do well on routes that have previously failed with other airlines. Lisbon is a good example, with loads of 100+ on most services since it started. Where have all these pax come from coz NI didn't carry anywhere near this amount? I also expect to see other new destinations offered by TOM next summer.

Elsewhere in the low cost stakes, it is rumoured that Jet2 are to base an additional 3 aircraft at MAN next year. So that will mean an increased program. Any ideas where they might fly to? A few polish and other eastern European destinations to rival FR at LPL would be good.

ZB will be releasing their Summer 08 flights from MAN very soon. S08 from BHX is already on sale. I would expect to see increased frequencies and at least 1 new route from them.

And what about bmibaby? Their growth at MAN has become stagnant in recent years which is very disappointing. After a disasterous flight with them three years ago, I flew with them again this Summer and found that the level of service and overall performance had greatly improved. They do very well on the few routes they do offer from MAN, so will we see any further expansion from them or are they happy with what they've got?

Vuelo 22nd Aug 2007 23:41

Agree, TOM are doing VERY well from MAN, and TLV is just such a money spinner that they can't fail on i. When I booked my tickets for TLV for January, I was amazed to see they are charging £15 for a Kosher meal!

Expect to see destinations like WAW, BBU, SPU, MLA, SOF, RIX, TLL and POZ from LS in the next year. I nderstand BVN will also be back next summer, with improved timings (if ZB don't go double daily, presumably).

tewkesbury 23rd Aug 2007 15:53

Let's get it straight, it is the Fairy Aviation Hangar 1 and Fairies Apron:ugh::ugh:

Wodrick 23rd Aug 2007 16:20

Fairies Hangar and Apron
 
You must be as old as me, but it was demolished and a new one built !:)

Charlie Roy 24th Aug 2007 10:16

New route to Warsaw with Centralwings.

aeulad 24th Aug 2007 10:29

Timings on Tue, Thu and Sat indicate a second route will be announced.

Regards

Mike

Vuelo 24th Aug 2007 16:34

POZ will also be announced next week.

Flights to Bucaresti are also to appear on the timetable at MAN shortly apparently.

peakp 24th Aug 2007 17:40

Central Wings
 
Aeulad,

Add a Sunday dept. as well. With the timings it does leave room for another flight.
Looks like Lot are going
Regards
peakp

viscount702 26th Aug 2007 09:40

not sure if this has been mentioned but XL are to start daily scheduled services to ALC & AGP next summer times vary

tartcart 26th Aug 2007 13:46

don't know where they're gonna get the staff from to operate this as they're saying we're overcrewed and they're looking to scale back the staff:eek:

FlyZB 26th Aug 2007 17:32

Surprised by this move from XL. Thought they'd be keen to concentrate on the Greece/Turkey market and continue to operate to destinations that are not well served by other carriers. Will daily AGP/ALC work for them? These markets must be close to saturation point and the majority of pax heading down to these destinations are frequent travellers with their own 'favourite' airline, ie - ZB, WW etc. Can XL take business off the Loco's? They are not well known as a flight-only carrier and therefore will need to undergo a decent advertising campaign to sway people away from the well known scheduled airlines on these routes.

tartcart 26th Aug 2007 20:03

thats why they're in this trouble- to much money spent on advertising,new uniform,swnaky new offices!
all perm crew have been offered five choices for winter:
50% contract
5 months unpaid leave
18 month career break
vol redundancy
or none of the above suit.
doesn't inspire confidence about the stability of our jobs, worrying times ahead.

viscount702 26th Aug 2007 22:48

The XL flights were mentioned in the MAPLC Getaway E Mail of 31 July. Missed it at the time. Not heard of it elsewhere and it is not advertised as such on XL website although the flights are there to book using the JN scheduled flight number. They are also doing flights from LGW ALC daily, AGP 2X Daily and FAO Daily.

To pick up an earlier post I haven't seen these advertised elsewhere unless someone can say different.

They may also be reducing flights elsewhere. The MLA scheduled flight isn't on the Website at the moment.

MUFC_fan 27th Aug 2007 00:10

Will the BMIBaby MAN-Bordeaux flight be returing for the summer?

If so, when are WW supposed to release their winter schedule?

If they are not to release the flights, which is the nearest airport? Bergerac?

Cheers.

airhumberside 27th Aug 2007 09:26


They are also doing flights from LGW ALC daily, AGP 2X Daily and FAO Daily.
MAN-LCA will also be a scheduled route according to their flight timetable, along with LGW-NOC and LTN/LCA/Paphos/SSH. Although very oddly not all flights are on sale yet, some of which are due to operate this winter

toledoashley 27th Aug 2007 09:30

Most France WW routes dont run in the winter - expect maybe one or the other to continue.


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