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ryan2000 29th Apr 2008 08:24

STARS and SIDS on the banks of the Lee
 
2nd aborted take off. Postponed untill tomorrow.

840 29th Apr 2008 08:38

peacock1->Aer Lingus were using the airbridge before it went out of operation and the fact I haven't seen any charter carriers using it, along with the cones at the bottom, suggests to me that it's still out of operation rather than a case of Aer Lingus choosing not to use it.

What confused me the other day was the fact that they used the boarding procedure for the airbridge (Rows 15-29 first) rather than the one for steps front and back (first come first served) even though there were steps at either end of the aircraft.

brian_dromey 29th Apr 2008 09:51

I wonder if they are waiting for some specialist parts for the air-bridge? It would seem to be a highly unusual situation for the floor of the thing to collapse, so it might be that parts which are not usually required to be replace ever need to be installed. There could be a significant lead time on this? I cant imagine there are too many stocks of air-bridge parts in Ireland, or even the UK?

The other thought I had is that the contractors who installed it are delaying paying for the fix, you know what builders are like to come back and fix anything!

Bri

ryan2000 29th Apr 2008 16:15

Airbridge
 
I'm told it's ready to be used but is awaiting some paper work to be completed.

Probably not a priority for management. They're indifferent to purchasing airbridges because airlines are unwilling to use them at all while others will only use them if there's no extra charge.

In any event they're probably too busy trying to replace Easyjet., CSA, Malev and Centralwings.

brian_dromey 29th Apr 2008 19:35

Is there any sign of any airlines sniffing around?

I suppose times are a bit tight at the minute which is not helping. Best bet might be AirFrance/CityJet? I don't think easyJet will be coming back in a hurry. Not too many other likely airlines really, is there?

Brian.

fivejuliet 29th Apr 2008 20:36

Brian, with AFR/BCY just after launching services from Shannon I would not be expecting them to go starting services to Cork anytime soon

Speaking of which their adding an extra flight on Saturdays and Sundays now.....thrice daily weekends :ok:

ryan2000 29th Apr 2008 21:09

City Jet CDG-ORK
 
Starting a Cork service wouldn't really dilute their yields on SNN-CDG as its probably serving a local catchment area.

Of course they'd have to go head to head with Aerlingus on ORK-CDG and unlike Shannon, Cork wouldn't throw hello money at them.

fivejuliet 29th Apr 2008 21:21

And what market would they be filling? Or is just the usual greed for whatever routes are going?

Routes have been lost to Poland and Budapest most importantly- If the CAA were doing things at all right they'd be focusing on finding a new operator for those, not going around looking for cityjet to fly an already established route, same goes for a replacment for Easyjet. It aint gonna happen.

brian_dromey 29th Apr 2008 22:30

I was under the impression that WX made noises, not about the CDG route but the LCY route. I don't see CDG to be honest with the EI relationship on the route, codeshare to AMS and the WX SNN service I don't think this would be seen as too attractive for AF or WX.

With oil being as expensive as it is any routes from ORK will need to be guaranteed money makers. There cant be much low hanging fruit left, I would think, sad as it may be. Could anyone make money on an ORK-Scandinavia route?

Brian.

en2r 29th Apr 2008 22:38


Brian, with AFR/BCY just after launching services from Shannon I would not be expecting them to go starting services to Cork anytime soon
Ya, a few months back Cityjet said they'd be interested in launching a Cork-London City service when Cork became independent. Well independence now looks looks only a few months away so hopefully they'll follow through. I know we all complain about the extortionate Aer Lingus fares on the Cork-CDG route but we don't want a repeat of the Gatwick fiasco.
Fivejuillet Cork-CDG was never mentioned until you brought it up.

On another note the Air Southwest services restarted this week. Newquay is to continue to be summer only but Plymouth is going to be year round.

cornishsimon 29th Apr 2008 23:14


On another note the Air Southwest services restarted this week. Newquay is to continue to be summer only but Plymouth is going to be year round.
where did all this come from ?

en2r 29th Apr 2008 23:30


where did all this come from ?
It was on the press release on the Cork airport website when the Plymouth service was first announced.
Sorry actually Newquay will also be year round as well as Plymouth.

cornishsimon 30th Apr 2008 00:34


It was on the press release on the Cork airport website when the Plymouth service was first announced.
Sorry actually Newquay will also be year round as well as Plymouth
Thats what i thought !
good for all involved i think, Airsouthwest, Cork, Plymouth and good for Newquay as well !

fivejuliet 30th Apr 2008 14:48

hahah en2r I quote ryan2000 a few posts above yours........

"
City Jet CDG-ORK
Starting a Cork service wouldn't really dilute their yields on SNN-CDG as its probably serving a local catchment area.

Of course they'd have to go head to head with Aerlingus on ORK-CDG and unlike Shannon, Cork wouldn't throw hello money at them."



:ugh::ugh::ugh:

en2r 30th Apr 2008 15:22


hahah en2r I quote ryan2000 a few posts above yours........
But you posted before Ryan2000 saying they wouldn't consider a Cork service because they're just after launching a service to CDG from Shannon. Were you not referring to Cork-CDG? The service from Shannon would be of no relevance if they were launching a service to London City.

Anyway this is getting off topic. Cityjet aren't going to launch a service to CDG because they wouldn't get any incentives to do so. They have expressed an interest in Cork-LCY and that is what Brian was referring to in the first place.

ryan2000 30th Apr 2008 15:40

City Jet
 
I'm not sure why they want to wait untill after Cork becomes independent to start LCY as I'm reliably informed that they won't be getting anything that's not available now. EI's 5 per day LHR service is too important to Cork and the CAA won't undermine it.

brian_dromey 30th Apr 2008 17:13

I think the independence thing is just an excuse to be honest. The fact of the matter is that they don't have the aircraft available currently to expand into any new routes. Even the WX service is operated by Régional with ERJ-145's on behalf of Air France by Cityjet and I dont think any firm date has been set for WX equipment to take over the route, at least not for the summer time-table.

Brian.

Copenhagen 30th Apr 2008 20:30

I see that WX are doubling weekend capacity on SNN CDG for the summer, by adding the AR8 onto the route. Things must be looking up for them. Bravo AF Bravo WX.

Devonair 30th Apr 2008 20:35

Quite a few pax connecting through SNN from CDG courtesy of the AF/DL codeshare. 16 passengers on Monday flew in from CDG and connected on the DL flight from SNN to JFK.

Charlie Roy 30th Apr 2008 22:14


16 passengers on Monday flew in from CDG and connected on the DL flight from SNN to JFK.
I am really surprised by this.
Why didn't these 16 people simply fly direct from CDG - JFK/NYC?
Are direct (last minute) flights really so expensive that CDG - JFK via SNN is cheaper or something?


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