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AP1995 1st Oct 2013 15:27

the grey would look so much better blue!

gonetech 1st Oct 2013 15:31

That explains the logo carried next to the forward rear passenger doors on OY-VKI (at least) seen in August

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Thomas-Cook-Airlines/Airbus-A330-343X/2321839/L/

VickersVicount 1st Oct 2013 17:41

Heart looks a bit like the one (albeit different colour) from Liverpool Victoria Insurance. Not sure I like. A revision and update of the existing lottery would have been nicer. Hope they do a clean sweep of repaints instead of a MyTravel debacle. Agree looks very like Primera/Veuling/Jettime combo.
Was definitely time however for a Thomas Cook refresh. Noone can really do anything about the gawd awful 753 interior though as much as they might try.

gonetech 1st Oct 2013 21:18

I can't remember being on a Thomas Cook flight and not thinking the interior was poor. Hopefully the ripped seats and chewing gum stuck in various places will not become part of the new interior!
If ever there was a need for a make over. :D

gilesdavies 1st Oct 2013 23:09

Any Chance of TCX Returning to Luton?
 
Just wondering what the views are of Thomas Cook ever returning to Luton?

They haven't flown from the airport for a few years now, and would have thought their would atleast be a market a single A320/321 based at the airport?

Thomson are really the only charter carrier left at the airport basing 3-4 aircraft here in the summer months. While I appreciate Thomson's HQ is at Luton, they are only going to be basing that number of aircraft if there is the market. After Gatwick, Manchester and Birmingham, I think it is there largest base, with a similar number at East Mids...

Going back 5-7 years ago before the Airtours and Thomson merger, we had two Airtours aircraft based at the airport (an A320 year round and DC-10 in the peak months) and both First Choice and Thomas Cook based an A320 at the airport. Also at this time Monarch had quite healthy charter programme from the airport and was beginning its transition to more scheduled services.

MKY661 1st Oct 2013 23:39

Thread For New TCX Livery Started:
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...ml#post8077021

MKY661 1st Oct 2013 23:46

Also an A320 has been WFU so it looks like it's not just 757's leaving the fleet :)

AirGuru 2nd Oct 2013 08:12

G-KKAZ has been withdrawn from use. Ferried LGW-MAN yesterday.

Looks as though they are indeed standardising the TCX fleet to all A321 as the A320's are around 10 years old, not that old for some charter aircraft.

mathers_wales_uk 2nd Oct 2013 10:13

Back in May there was an article announcing Thomas Cook signing a lease agreement with GECAS as part of it's fleet renewal plan.

News Article - Thomas Cook signs Airbus lease agreement

JonnyH 3rd Oct 2013 17:58


It appears that Thomas Cook Cardiff is going to be a non thomas cook aircraft. Despite high load factors according to the civil aviation authority it seems welsh passengers are going to lose out again.
What about passengers around the rest of the uk that are using thomas cook? You can be damn sure it won't just be Cardiff next year and it certainly hasn't been just Cardiff in the previous summers.

We all should be pleased these "wet leases" are coming in, to avoid routes being chopped, even if they can be a load of s**t sometimes!

mathers_wales_uk 3rd Oct 2013 21:12

Other bases are having capacity increase and Cardiff are to lose out despite high load factors. There are larger bases elsewhere where a mix of in-house and wet lease operation won't have such overall impact.

wet leasing an aircraft can have detrimental impact on the eyes of passengers especially if it leads to dispatch reliability being decreased. Also what happens if aircraft is AOG. Will Thomas Cook try and re-route one of their aircraft of will we have to wait for another wet leased aircraft to be positioned in from possibly outside the UK.

MKY661 5th Oct 2013 23:22

Thomas Cook Fleet Changes
 
Here are the forthcoming changes of the fleet to Summer 2014:

Airbus A320:
G-KKAZ has been WFU and is being returned to lessor.
G-DHRG to be WFU this winter
G-DHJZ to be WFU this winter

Airbus A321:
G-TCDB to transfer from Condor 2nd February 2014
G-TCDC is due to be delivered 3rd December 2013
G-TCDD is due to be delivered 10th March 2014
G-TCDE is due to be delivered 10th March 2014
G-TCDF is due to be delivered 10th April 2014
G-TCDG is due to be delivered 10th April 2014

Boeing 757-200
G-FCLF to be WFU this winter

3 other aircraft are due to leave however the types have yet to be confirmed. :)

Source: Thomas Cook Airlines

Morrihell 6th Oct 2013 00:38

Mathers...

Glass half empty?

Cardiff's got TCX next year, perhaps you would be happier without (?)

It's a small world/heart at Cardiff for TCX, if it's leased in from someone/where else, live with it, at least it will be flying for TCX from Cardiff.

MH

mathers_wales_uk 6th Oct 2013 15:43

Of course it's better than not having anything at all however you will be suprised how 40 seats per flight can have a huge bearing on the stats which have only this year started to improve.

Also what about the excellent flight deck that have to relocate to new bases if appropriate. With the reduction of aircraft size also means reduction in cabin crew requirement for next year.

As for OTP and dispatch reliability then this is a different story.

The TCX product at Cardiff is currently excellent let down only by the TCX customer service department at HQ. The more people that have to deal with this department will have a different opinion of TCX as a whole.

As the saying goes

'You don't know how good a company is until things go wrong'

LiamNCL 11th Oct 2013 09:45

Whats with the TCX aircraft heading into scotland to operate all TFS flights ?

yeo valley 11th Oct 2013 09:59

tcx aircraft to scotland
 
is it not school holidays in scotland. if so then extra flts put on. just a thought.

IrishFlyer2013 11th Oct 2013 11:00

Its the start of half term in Scotland. Thomas Cook are operating 75 additional flights from GLA.

Over the weekend TCX aircraft will position up to GLA to operate additional flights to ACE, AYT, DLM, NBE, PMI, LPA & TFS.

TCX have done this for the past few years.

BFS BHD 11th Oct 2013 11:17

Also BFS based A321 G-TCDA has been helping out at GLA for the past 2-3 days :)

LiamNCL 11th Oct 2013 18:23

I spotted G-NIKO descending into GLA the other day on FR24 was wondering what a a321 was doing up there ! All the 757s have operated flights back to their base from TFS

alasdair1 27th Oct 2013 02:52

are the A321's with factory new?

sharklettes or neo's?


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