EAST MIDLANDS - 4
 

To make free space to open new CIA-MAD route, from end of february CIA-EMA start to be operated by EMA based plane with this new timetable:
EMA-CIA 6:30-10:05 daily
CIA-EMA 10:30-12:10 daily
What route will be close at EMA to make space for this?


Continuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...247520&page=15

None: EMA will be receiving 3 more planes in February (for a total of 5).

The existing routes from EMA to CIA, GRO and DUB (x3 per day) will all be flown by EMA based aircraft. As you say, this frees up a CIA based aircraft to fly CIA - MAD and also a GRO based aircraft to fly GRO-BRS and GRO-MMX. Finally, following a bit of re-arranging in Dublin, rotations are freed for DUB-WAW and DUB-VST.

According to the booking system, EMA-SZG and EMA-GNB are currently due to end after the Winter, but EMA-FNI and EMA-EGC will both return, with EGC looking like a straight swap for SZG (both 4x wkly).

Things get more complicated at the end of March, when Tue, Thu and Sat rotations on EMA-GRO are taken (back) over by a GRO based plane, allowing EMA-RMI to start.

This flight will now leave only 30 minutes before the easyJet departure on exactly the same route. I think that's a real shame, because the timings before pretty much made it possible to spend a short day, or nearly two fully days, in Rome, this option will no longer be available. Excellent though to have this Ryanair expansion - and the latest rumours are Cagliari and Palermo I believe.

I heard in work yesterday that First Choice are beginning to hand back their A321s to their lessors. As EMA is a A321/B767 base, any idea whether we will get a B757 or A320, or if the A321 will be around for a while yet? Surely it makes sense to be B757/B767, though this will obviously be a crewing issue. Having not handled FCA B757s, will this spell the end of FCA's premium service on shorthaul? I always thought it was an innovative product for a leisure airline to offer.

Lite
EMA will be a 757 FCA base, but I believe it wont be for another year or so, as far as I'm aware anyway, If I remember correctly they said that after they had sorted BRS out as a boeing base that EMA would be next, well BRS is sorted with 2x757(summer)1x757(winter) replacing the 321's that were based, and 1x767(weekends, year round as of Feb). It will mean the loss of short haul premium for EMA as this service is not available on FCA's 757. Hope this answers your question :ok:

A positive move for FCA (shame about the loss of premium, but its an increase). Has anyone heard any rumaours about further long-haul destinations, to base the B767 at EMA permantly.

PLUS: Do you think that Reus and Caligiari with FR will be part of another major expansion for FR from EMA next spring.

SAM-EMA

Perhaps a sixth aircraft from Ryanair at a stretch, but I don't think we ought to be getting greedy, EMA has done very well with all of the routes they've already gained for S07, anywhere else would be the icing on the cake. Certainly, these new routes would have to be operated by a based aircraft unless these two cities are in the line-up for becoming a base.

Excellent news to see that FCA will be upgrading to the 757 in the future, a favourite aircraft type for me. Won't the 767 be here for six days a week next summer? It is a shame we can't just get one more route and have it kept here all week, but again FCA's expansion has been excellent for the airport so far.

Hi SAM-EMA

Reus and Cagliari may indeed mean part of a further expansion from FR.

Is there really scope for Cagliari, when FR will already be flying to Alghero - Is Sardinia that popular?

I personally, would love to see FR start services to Sweden, Norway and Denmark from EMA.

On another note, I see from the EMA website today, that November's passenger figures saw an increase of 21% on the same month last year!! For all the knocks that FR receive, they sure know how to bring those passengers in!!!

Roll on 2007 and all those lovely new routes!!

I too agree it would be nice to have more flights to Central Europe and Scandinavia. Ryanair already have substantial operations in Germany and Scandinavia, so it would be nice for them to perhaps link their bases or focus cities with East Midlands.

Saw today significant scaffolding in the former buspark, clearly work is progressing on the new arrivals hall. Anybody got any firm information from the airport side how it is all going?

The Reus base and new routes from Caligari are only what I have heard here from PPRuNe, but they sound as if they are going to happen though.

SAM-EMA

Ryanair seem to be going from strength to strength and are arguably becoming the home airline of EMA, considering that whilst they have an equal number of based aircraft to what is currently considered the airport's "home" airline bmibaby, they have more seats and routes than we do. They seem committed to expansion, and almost every new route announcement over the last few months has been from them. It really is a shame that bmibaby have not been able to fully take advantage of the huge potential market we had from EMA, now Ryanair have moved into many of the big markets, putting baby between a rock and a hard place. Where can WW expand to next? It seems a legitimate question, particularly if rumours of a sixth based aircraft are true. I have to say my obvious bias as an employee of bmibaby would suggest we will outshine the competition; but Ryanair provides excellent value for money, and I think with the general lack of innovation and investment at baby, we're going to find it increasingly difficult to catch up.

Word on the street is that GB Airways are looking to expand operations at EMA and BRS. Can only mean good things for the airport and for consumers. hows the Pier

Regards

Stu

You can always come to work for us :)

Actually I have considered working for Ryanair. Stable roster patterns, modern fleet of aircraft, very cosmopolitan (read: from all over the shop) colleagues and pretty good staff travel scheme. The downside is staff don't seem particularly content whenever I've popped my head round the back of the galley, you have to fork out a mini fortune for training & uniform and I've become all too cushy at baby. There are plenty of things I don't like about baby; ex-BMC people who think they own the shop, new people who don't conform to basic customer service standards, a crummy old fleet of B737s and a stagnating network out of EMA. But they're stable as well and there are some great colleagues out there.

Plenty of diverts into EMA today. With the increased based aircraft count from next summer, I wonder if we'll see EMA turning away (non -emergency) diverts due to lack of apron space, especially in the evening & at night when the freighters start to turn up.

How was the arrivals/immigration/baggage reclaim halls today with all the extra pax?

FC

Fried_Chicken

Sure they didnt get a few missed approaches and circuits in as well to circumvent the new rules :rolleyes:

Absolutely packed for most of today! From what I remember seeing:-

3 Ryanair down East apron, 2 Ryanair on New apron 1 on Central apron
1 eastJet down East apron, 1 on Central apron
3 Thomson B733
1 Thomson B752
1 Thomas Cook A320
5 BA E145
1 Air Europa B738
1 Futura B738

Probably missed a few as it was pretty hetic! I believe the Ryanair's and easyJets came from Liverpool. The E145 I'm guessing Birmingham and the Thomson's Doncaster? Don't know about the others though.

Not sure what stopped the night, could be interesting if some night stopped down the east apron, with UPS/Maersk/TNT aircraft coming and going.

Fried and Flyboy
Yes real fun and games last night, i for one got the impression that ATC nearly lost the plot as at one stage the taxi ways got blocked. A Star 767 had no-where to park, the DLH MD11 had to wait for a follow me and nearly caused inbound aircraft to go round. There was one BA aircraft awaiting push back for so long he eventually gave up and went to bed.
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Get yourself a licence if you think you can do any better :=

Wasn't working yesterday, but it might be worth remembering that, with the larger aircraft requiring more space to move re parking and pushback it doesn't take long to run out of manoeuvring room - there's only a finite amount of it. Throw in LVP's and life gets very interesting indeed.

every airline has its good and bad points :)

Chilli
No offence made, but for one how about preempting MD11 would have needed a follow me and having one waiting there...or at least at end of runway in use :\

Will not know the full story till thursday, but quite possible RVR fell below the point where Follow me is required while he was on finals-you cannot just magic one up, especially if its going ape on the aprons at the same time-LVP's no fun at the best of times, when running out of room even worse, trying to do the best for everyone and getting no thanks sucks!

We haven't been told yet as part of our announcements to change it to "East Midlands Airport" so lots of people at baby still announcing the arrival of flights into "Nottingham East Midlands Airport" or "Nottingham's East Midlands" as I heard the other day from a colleague. := was my thought, the East Midlands certainly do not BELONG to any of the three cities! Interestingly, the sign above the terminal is currently revealing the really old brand "East Midlands International Airport" going back some time. bmibaby's website still showing "Nottingham East Midlands Airport" throughout the site.

Still no news on extra baby aircraft for you though guys.

We've done very well I have to say at East Midlands, a couple of delays, none really dramatic (when I was working yesterday 3 hours on the EZY CGN was looking the worst) and think the only cancellations have come from Eastern Airways and one bmibaby flight. Congratulations to everyone whose made the process for travellers so much easier than from LHR - hopefully this will bring more converts to the EMA cult. :E

Not noticed any substantial process to the pier, but have been told it will be opened by May 1st!

Sorry, do you mean on May 1st or before? Is their any info who will use it yet? Because I have heard about FR having the 5 based a/c on the new apron but that will be a problem for arriving pax with buses. Personally, I think that it will be best suited to the charter airlines, and keep FR using Gates 1-5.

SAM-EMA

With the charter flights for the S07 season coming into full swing on May 1st, I was told that the new pier would be open for the start of these flights - whether that means the opening will coincide with the launch of the summer charter programme, or it will be open earlier I don't know. I believe May 1st is the deadline being set for all works around the airport including the new security waiting area and works to the arrivals area.

No news yet on who is using the new pier, though Ryanair are keen not to pay Servisair for buses, and seem to recall something about their contract with the airport involving them getting stands wherever possible which would limit the use of bussing passengers. Obviously there will be no problems on the new pier for departing pax, but arriving ones will need a bus. Ryanair do well in Gates 1-5 at present, so time will tell.

Some steel framework has been erected for the new pier, and part of the basic concrete floor has been laid from the West gate end.

Would be interesting seeing Ryanair use those 5 stands, pushing a 738 from stand 45 would be very interesting with that blast fence there. I'd make more sense for Baby to use those stands as they have smaller aircraft, and use it regularly. Ryanair use aircraft from other bases, could mean more than 5 ac down at the same time.

We'll take that as a compliment, so 'thanks' on behalf of ATC. :ok:

Making the airport operation run smoothly, especially in adverse weather, is obviously a team effort, with everyone across the different companies playing their part, so 'well done' to the rest of you, too.
On a personal note, I'd like to offer a very special vote of thanks to those of my colleagues in Air traffic, both Controllers and Assistants, who've done a fantastic job in what were sometimes very trying conditions over the last few days - working 'Air' & especially 'Ground' in LVPs requires incredible concentration - you dun good.:D
Hopefully the weather will hold up and provide those of you unfortunate enough to be working over the holiday with a slightly easier time of it.
Merry Christmas, all.
RC

Does that mean I have passed my LCE!

Agreed that some of our aircraft are used on those stands, but I think for some of our destinations there is the requirement of a second security check by the border police meaning baby may be kept in Gates 1 - 5. Also, I think the airline likes to have these gates considering they are the shortest walk from central search and once pax have passed through the border police checkpoint they are then in that part of the lounge, so easier to chase up if they go missing. I'm sure the same might be introduced on the new pier if that's where the airport wants baby to go.

Wow steel AND concrete - this could be the start of something:E
- just hope the locals don't get to hear bout this!

The 'good' we do immediately - miracles take a little longer....:E

LITE

Get your facts right:=

There have been no Eastern cancellations to Aberdeen on Thursday or Friday

There has been a reduced service due to xmas, the Thursday flight was diverted to Manchester and passengers were bussed there to get to Aberdeen, the return flight was diverted to Leeds and passengers bussed back to EMA. (have you noticed that a full frills airline do not just cancel flights or dump passengers where they do not want to be).

The Friday flight was delayed due to inbound aircraft positioning from Leeds (which was affected by fog) been late arriving, about 1hr 45mins late. Then operated as normal

Nearly forgot this

Did I see an Easy A319 with an emergency slide hanging out of the right hand side on Friday evening?

There was a lot of people hanging around that front door

Can anybody confirm?

Got told this morning a texaco refueller opened the door for the hostie who hadnt disarmed it.....best get the boys in green back:=

To be fair, on Thursday the departure boards in the terminal were showing Eastern inbound flights to be "cancelled." Whilst there may have been alternative travel arrangements laid on, this is not always clear from the airport's information boards which simply show "cancelled." This brings up a point I remember hearing a little while ago with somebody from Servisair complaining that if one of their flights was running a bit behind schedule it would say on the arrivals board "delayed until" whereas bmibaby flights would say "expected at." I see that era has changed, maybe we're out of favour!

Merry Christmas anyway to all EMA employees and our thread followers, and hears to an exciting 2007!

Anyone got any photos of the ezy with th chute deployed

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all you EMA PPRuNers.

Best Wishes
SAM-EMA

Merry Xmas fellow EMA colleagues!! Including you simpson!!!!

regards

bmibaby FC

Why?
Remind me politely to turn-down any invites to your place -
the slides on chute deployment just seem TOO excitin for me!!:eek:

Pass me a drink - hic-cup!!
Merry CHRISTmas to all - regards bbb :ok:

East Midlands 4
 

Merry Xmas to all at E. M.A. espicially all the Servisair ramp lads and keep smiling boys.Soon be March 2007 and lots more Ryanairs for us to turn round in 25 mins . YOU KNOW YOU LOVE IT !!!!:mad: :mad: