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WATABENCH 3rd Feb 2007 11:07

Beware the Subway in the check-in hall, doesn't do much for your waistline and the smells eminating from it will make you feel either sick or very very hungry, TV comes in handy though, especially last year during the world cup, Its so popular here in BRS that the Kosmar and ACE Handling desks are being moved so they can expand!

bmibaby.com 3rd Feb 2007 12:37

Morale at bmibaby is right down around EMA, some very glum faces and people keen to move on to pastures new. Certainly seems all but confirmed that there will be no promised sixth aircraft for EMA in 2007, almost an open invite for Ryanair to keep eating away at us!

SAM-EMA 3rd Feb 2007 20:32

Shame about no 6th WW a/c but FR is committed to EMA and we will have at least 7 if not more FR a/c based by the end of the year.

Great pics Chilli Monster-Thanks.

How is the arrivals extension coming along? Is that where the repositioned Spar is going?

SAM-EMA

Lite 3rd Feb 2007 20:49

Spar, Costa Coffee and the information desk are going into the new arrivals extension, as well as the omenously titled "bus interchange."

Little Blue 4th Feb 2007 11:43

bmibaby.com...
You ought to pop yr head into the new Logistics Control office if you want
to feel more upbeat...
No morale problems in here.....Don't know who you've been mixing with up at the terminal.
Onwards and upwards , baby !

OltonPete 4th Feb 2007 12:08

BMI Baby
 
Little Blue

Things should be upbeat considering they are appearing to be doing
well at East Mids and trampling the opposition at BHX.

Will they press home their advantage, is this "other" aircraft going to
still happen and is there to be a third summer 07 release?

As mentioned on the Cardiff thread there are holes in the Cardiff and
BHX schedule (not sure about EMA & MAN), are these to be plugged?

OP

barrowboyblue! 5th Feb 2007 17:29

''Beware the Subway in the check-in hall'' orig posted by WATABENCH

Subway, what subway - what will the locals say bout all those trains!!
(sorry!):{

Next your going to tell me there planning an '' exciting esculator'' in dep lounge !! - Just when I thought I'd seen it all!

Roll on the summer!

BYALPHAINDIA 5th Feb 2007 19:54

I've been waiting over 7 years for them to 'Return' a suitable viewing terrace to it's loyal 'old' regular visitors, and the thousands of passers - by who filled the Terminal every weekend of the year calling at EMA, To spend their money as a stop off from the M1.:D

The terrace seemed to be 'removed' overnight with no consultation, or other facilities provided whatsoever.:hmm:

I am surprised Airtrans is still trading, after the lost business from the enthusiasts & passers - by alike?:(

That shop was always full even on weekdays popular with a range of people.

The last time I went to EMA was about 4 years ago to the Airfair, We didn't see one aircraft during the time we were there as there is nowhere to view from the terminal? The Airfair was as good as it always was, But It was not the same without a 'Panoramic' viewing terrace.

I have not visited since, As it is a waste of a carpark ticket, And obviously nowhere to view.:sad: I am 1 of many who has said this.

If you have no transport you cannot go to the viewing area by the Aeropark, And thus a pointless outing.

So, what is the future for any kind of terminal viewing facilities at NEMA?

Their owners the MAG group must be aware of how much revenue the Terminal area, Shops, Bars, etc have lost, And the Airport itself with all the carpark fees paid by the thousands of passer - bys?

If NEMA would have 'Persevered' with the then viewing terrace arrangements, I think that it would have paid for itself with what I have already stated above?

But they decided to use the terrace for a departure lounge, Which most people only spend 15 minutes in the end anyway?

Ive had many happy days at the then EMA, But this has being taken away by so called = 'progress'

I have wrote to the Airport about this, But like most companies I have yet to receive a reply?:ugh: and that was 4 years ago!!

Its beyond me........:*

RIP NEMA VIEWING TERRACE.

bmibaby.com 6th Feb 2007 17:28

I appreciate your frustration about the EMA viewing terrace closing down, however the airport neither has the funds from MAG nor the planning permission to build a new terminal, so the airport, especially in light of all the additional passengers flying from EMA, has had to make do best with what they have. Not a weekend goes by when a member of the travelling public will not come up to anybody in a uniform, and I imagine this is particularly annoying for the information desk, asking whether there is somewhere they can take the kids to watch the planes, or wave off Auntie Margaret. The problem is, these people do not bring in the same kind of money that fare paying passengers do, so the space is simply better utilised creating more departure lounge space. I imagine now that car parking prices are what they are, most people wanting a quick coffee or meal off of the M1, just go to the Moto services next door to the airport, people coming into the airport to spend £1.50 on parking and £5 on a sandwich and coffee aren't the prime target customer for the airport, it's people who want to fly. I think closing the viewing terrace has been a bad thing for airport relations with the local community, and is even more surprising given Manchester Airport's good reputation with the aviation enthusiast community. Hopefully the airport will continue investing in the Aeropark however, and I know this, alongside the nature trail around the airport permiter, all attracts not only spotters but the curious general public.

Any news from Ryanair whether we will now be getting flights from Weeze to EMA? Central Germany certainly ought to be on the airport's target.

Regular Cappuccino 8th Feb 2007 20:30

"What is the largest a/c that the pax apron can accommodate?"

If by 'pax apron' you mean the Central Apron - Code 'D', which, although including larger types, normally equates to B767-300 or A300 for this apron.
Two B747 stands have existed for many years on the eastern Apron, which, while originally intended for freighters prior to the western apron being built, could be used for pax aircraft if necessary (subject to the stands not being obstructed by a/c parked on adjacent stands).

UPS@EMA 9th Feb 2007 14:52

Has EMA lost the GB Airways / BA flights to Tenerife after the winter schedule????? doesnt show in the online summer route offering.. I thought GB Airways were looking at expanding destinations from EMA and BRS for that matter. Are they just waiting for what happens with the BA franchise?

Ive heard EMA is gonna have 3 routes announced in next few weeks from Ryanair just after the first batch of new routes start next week and the week after. word has it that PMI, ALC and NRN will be the new routes and then maybe HHN

Regards

Stu

egnxema 9th Feb 2007 15:10

AFAIK GB return on the TFS EMA route at the end of the summer for the winter 07/08 season.

eu01 9th Feb 2007 15:21


Originally Posted by bmibaby.com
Any news from Ryanair whether we will now be getting flights from Weeze to EMA? Central Germany certainly ought to be on the airport's target.

You're certainly right. However, the airport (NRN) happens to be just 2 kilometers from Germany's... western border ;). A good entry point to the Netherlands, by the way (just rent a car).

NutLoose 9th Feb 2007 23:38

Weather was awful when I took this, snowing etc, but as you can see they are lifting the new walkways into place, having been assembled in the old carpark area.........

Its coming along nicely and bigger than I thought it was going to be........ as for the comments for the viewing area, I agree, I used to wander up sometimes when I was erm working LOL and have a look out........ it was always popular, but reminded me of a baboon enclosure the way it was all fenced in lol.................... no offence to everyone in it :)

http://mysite.orange.co.uk/il2_skinn...al_walkway.jpg

Mr Angry from Purley 10th Feb 2007 10:18

UPS

Could be true, noticed that FR have announced flights to ALC and PMI from LPL which is in direct competition with Easyjet, something the loco's don't normally do. :\

finding_nema 11th Feb 2007 13:34

I'm hoping to start working for Servisair this summer, so am following this thread and the Ryanair expansion with real interest. The pictures are of really good quality, and I'm looking forward to going to the airport soon to see it all in action.

Out of interest, via PM or on the board, does anyone have any particular opinions of Servisair? Also are all of the gates and check-in desks shared, or does each handling agent have set ones?

bmibaby.com 11th Feb 2007 15:28

At EMA, Servisair are really the big cheeses when it comes to ground handling. They handle all the charter airlines (with the exception of TCX), including the ones who only fly in a few times a week, as well as FR & EZY. Their subsidiary Airport Agencies is responsible for the representation of all the major tour operators (again with the exception of Thomas Cook.) They're a great company to get some valuable aviation experience with, though with difficult working conditions many seem to move over to bmibaby, Menzies (a growing company, though apparently clinging desperately onto the TCX contract) or try a job elsewhere.

I've noticed there isn't really much standardisation within the company in terms of branding though. Everybody refers to the company as "Servisair" with uniforms, ground equipment and desks in a variety of "Servisair" "Servisair Globeground" and "Penauille Servisair" logos and liveries.

ALTSEL 12th Feb 2007 16:10

Does anybody know why the dutch reg ATP that is parked on stand 45 has no rudder,Elevators or ailerons? - in the past if you did not pay your fees to EMA they used to block you in by parking a snow plough behind your a/c - this new method is rather harsh but quite expected from the crooks that charge the poor pax 50p for a pre-security plastic bag!

EastMids 12th Feb 2007 19:33


quite expected from the crooks that charge the poor pax 50p for a pre-security plastic bag!
LOL! :D

Does anybody know why the dutch reg ATP that is parked on stand 45 has no rudder,Elevators or ailerons?
The ATP was damaged in the high winds a few weeks ago and bits are off for repair.

A

NutLoose 12th Feb 2007 21:04

It is an Atlantic Airways one I believe, she was parked tail into wind during the storms the other week, wasn't doing to bad from what is said until they tried to turn her round into wind at the height of the storm, did a fair bit of damage so they are all off for repair, she has been in BMI's hangar a couple of times, but they are using the bays at the moment, so she is being worked on out on the apron.

NutLoose 12th Feb 2007 21:06


I've noticed there isn't really much standardisation within the company in terms of branding though. Everybody refers to the company as "Servisair" with uniforms, ground equipment and desks in a variety of "Servisair" "Servisair Globeground" and "Penauille Servisair" logos and liveries.
The term for the Serviceair ground equipment if you were to sell it would be "shabby chic" lol, rumour has it they buy all their good stuff from Albert Looms........

saman 13th Feb 2007 10:35

Can the Hire Car pickup area either be given a covered walkway from the terminal or could EMA be relocated to a dryer part of Europe?

The latter is the preferred solution but Option 1 would be a start for us poor visitors!

egnxema 14th Feb 2007 21:37

Buy a brolley!:}

owenkirk2005 14th Feb 2007 22:48

Royal Mail
 
Just been reading the newcastle forum and there looks like the royal mail are starting an extra route by the end of the year, any details on where? i guess somehere in the UK, maybe the south-west, or Ireland? Also theres an aircraft for stansted royal mail ops if the newcastle forum is correct.

en2r 15th Feb 2007 00:02

New Royal Mail Base
 
Owenkirk 2005
Here in Ireland we have our own postal network, An Post and have nothing to do with Royal Mail besides exhanging international post like we do with other Mail networks around the world, so I really cannot see why you think they would be setting up a new air route to here?

10 DME ARC 15th Feb 2007 07:40

Owen - The Newcastle thread refers to an extra mail flight starting end March from NCL to East Midlands, the stansted part was talking about our present mail flight not from EMA!

UPS@EMA 15th Feb 2007 09:00

UKIA's first 767 should be arriving in EMA 10th March now. Anyone heard how preperations are going in Brunei?
Also, all Ryanairs new flights should all be up n running by 27th. Is there any other exciting prospects for EMA this year? additional long haul from First Choice or are we going to have to wait for the 787's to join the fleet?
having flown out the airport 2 weeks ago for the first time in quite a while, just wondered where the access to the new pier will be from? is it out from upstairs or going to be access from the last gate? I will be heading back out to Malaysia soon so trying to learn as much as poss
Regards
Stu

The Real Slim Shady 15th Feb 2007 17:32

UPS

And it will no doubt sit there for a while as the booking engine doesn't show any flight availability.

Lite 17th Feb 2007 17:36

The problem, if you want to call it a problem, with the Servisair branding is that we have changed our branding three times over a very short space of time. The company has been "Servisair," "Servisair GlobeGround" and now "Penauille Servisair" all in a short time, all with different logos, liveries and uniforms. It seems the new branding for the Penauille Servisair GSE is simply white, with a small logo placed somewhere on it. The other type I have seen, is the new branding on our Penauille Servisair Cargo lorries, which I've heard might be extended to all ground equipment. They are a navy blue, with a close up visual of the Servisair globe in white and the Penauille Servisair type face along the side. The company is going for more standardisation and making the company more competitive under the fairly new CEO, so we shall hopefully see us moving away from this "Circusair" image.

barrowboyblue! 17th Feb 2007 20:59

With reference to the covered walkway to hire car - car park - I agree -
But you could always buy a plaggy bag from the airport terminal and stick that over your head!!
(could make a rainhat out of them - they're only 50p ... and you get 2!!):E

I challenge nEMA to send the profits of this scam to charity!!

btw flew with baby the other day again to Scotland and the service on board as ever very good - (more personable than FR)
usually helps when the crew are ex BM- bring home the baby!!:D

almost professional 17th Feb 2007 21:06

why is it a scam to have a vending machine providing something that most people should know is required and have the oportunity to bring, but which some will forget? should the airport also provide toothpaste if you forget it?

easyboy 17th Feb 2007 21:11

the bags have to be within the dimensions set out by the DFT. I'm sure most people won't have them at home.

I think that an airport charging for a pastic bag is shocking.

barrowboyblue! 17th Feb 2007 21:27

Quite right easyb - a box of plaggy bags doesn't cost a great deal compared to the amount Joe Bloggs spends at the airport!! Just a gesture thats all we want- (if not- instead of charging - just steal a load from Tesco's or Sainsbury's - there free there!)

On a positive note - security staff also always more personable and efficent compared those down the M42 - not such a chore. Keep it up.:ok:

almost professional 18th Feb 2007 09:10

OK then-why is it the airports job to provide these free of charge? we did not put the restrictions in place-perhaps the Airlines would like to take this on? or the handling agents?- like luggage labels-no thought not, passengers pay less and less to use the facilities to depart, less and less to fly, and you are complaining about a 50p charge to obtain something should you have need-its not compulsory, unlike liverpools departure 'Tax'

easyboy 18th Feb 2007 09:44

Yes, perhaps the Airline or the Handling Agents should provide these small plastic bags, but regardless of who deals with them - there should be no charge for a DFT regulation.

If anybody should be covering the cost of these then it should be down to the DFT directly, and not the Airports etc.

IMHO 18th Feb 2007 09:57

Sorry AP I agree with easyboy and blue on this.
Maybe it's not the provision of the bags, but the cost.
50p for 2 plastic bags is a little OTT.
Good to see work coming on well for the pier.

Flyboy543 18th Feb 2007 09:57

Why don't G4S provide them, after all they are the ones enforcing the rules? The airport has sub-contracted the security to G4S so am suprised EMA provided them from the beginning!

UPS@EMA 19th Feb 2007 08:49

Heard that raised walk way is now in place, any new pics??? Bin busy moving back to the warmth of Malaysia, and life within the busy cargo department of a classy company :hmm:

Chilli Monster 19th Feb 2007 19:14

Funny you should mention that.

Almost P (aka David Bailey) was scuttling around the building and balcony this morning:

http://www.wheelerweb.org/images/nema/walkway_1.jpg

http://www.wheelerweb.org/images/nema/walkway_2.jpg

http://www.wheelerweb.org/images/nema/walkway_3.jpg

finding_nema 19th Feb 2007 19:24

Thank you for the pictures. I've had all my handling agent interviews for this summer season, but those gates look like quite a long walk from the main terminal building. I'm already picturing people running frantically to those gates just in the nick of time before departure. Where is the entrance to that walkway? Is it upstairs? And will it be used by all airlines?


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