The Israir JFK flight has been dropping in a few nights a week for fuel for the last couple of weeks, not sure if it is a permanent arrangement or not. Similar to El Al in the old days.

Tommy
 

Thanks for the info

Isr101
 

Is TLV-JFK schedule and continuing strong jetstreams/headwinds over Atlantic presumably occasionally requires fuel stop.

Headwinds
 

That would explain why East-bound flights were running early today.

Old maxjet lounge
 

Very random question. But what is happening to the old Maxjet lounge. Is EOS going to have it? Or is AA going to come across from Sat 2?

The old Maxjet lounge
 

In early January VR were using it for their flights to Cape Verde, but it does appear that their flights have now stopped.
Any more info on VR from STN?

Centralwings has decided to withdraw all flights operating from Stansted, eff. from March 31st.

So how many operators have left Stansted now, presumably as a result of the BAA charges increase?

Blue 1
Centralwings
Sky Europe
Maxjet (receivership)
Air Berlin domestics and Leipzig
Ryanair reductions (7 aircraft?)
Globespan

Any others?

Lourdes Flights
 

I noticed at Aviance today that TITAN are operating 4 Lourdes flights in
February.Its a long time since we have seen winter traffic on this route
not since BRITISH WORLD,and certainly not since a low cost carrier has been offering Pau.
Lets hope that this is a sign of more charters coming back to STN since the FR reduction and cut backs.:):ok:

LGS6753

Any others?

XL have moved to EMA.

Globespan
 

They were back today with a TFS. Was this a one-off?

LGS6753,

No-frills airlines enjoy the opportunity to whinge about airport user charges when circumstances permit (more free headlines), but these are just one of many factors in determining the viability of an air service. Fuel costs are still historically high with crude oil around USD$90 per barrel of oil; USD$100 has already been breached once and will no doubt be seen again afew months down the line. And the likelihood of recession is also a major concern for airlines; discretionary travel is very much in the firing line as consumers tighten their belts. High energy costs, instability in the banking system, "credit crunches" and faltering property prices all point to a difficult year for the airline industry. STN is not alone in suffering cutbacks and I suspect that the user charges at the airport are not the most significant factor causing them; look at examples of cutbacks listed on other airport threads where airport charges are not the "issue du jour".

All the best. SHED.

Shed -

Fair comment about general economics, with which I agree. However, Stansted does seem to have lost a lot of business of late, whereas the likes of Luton, Bristol, East Midlands and others have experienced growth. These other airports have had setbacks too, of course, especially with the consolidations in the charter market.:ok:

Airlines that have left STN
 

Besides the others already posted. CSA pulled out back in October. BRS keep using STN bassed easyjet planes because they dont have enough.

LGS6753

I'm afraid that the ecomnic realities that you have correctly identified will also apply to the strip on the hill as well!! MInd you, at least the 'rounbabout' might be a little lest congested!!

Chopper

If anyone gets excited about a licence apparently being granted to the South African company 'Civair' hoping to trade as 'Redair' operating from CPT to STN - don't!!

This may well be a re-run of a similar attempt that the same man tried in 2004 that went nowhere and many prospective pax say they never got their money back. He has no a/c but says that he is shopping. The thread running in another website forums says some very nasty things about him.

ICTS
 

Next time ICTS ask to check your I.D just think about this for one minute.

Taken from Mirror.co.uk

Illegal immigrant Stansted airport cleaner jailed for two years



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6 Months for being a cleaner , isnt that longer than the Afghan hijackers served ??

She was jailed - what about the people who did not check her passport correctly and GAVE her the air side pass???????? :*

that would be the overpaid baa staff in enterprise house,theyr loosing their jobs anyway as its all being moved to scotland i think. if any more airlines pull out or decrease their flights at this rate well all be out of a job.

Apologies if this has already been reported, but Aegean twice daily A321 Athens service starting this Spring.

Regards

Mike

Also FlyLAL (Lithuanian Airlines) daily 737 from April

Are FlyLAL moving from Gatwick?

CH Aviation reporting Transavia are pulling out

Transavia
 

According to Transavia web site STN flights are not bookable or in timetable after 30th March, so it appears they are pulling out.

TOM
 

Today is their first departure for Ovda as TOM8725, after pulling Las Palmas.

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Eos Airlines will start flying from Stansted to Newark (already on the Eos website) on May 5th and daily flights from STN to Dubai on July 6th. Flights will be bookable mid Feb for EWR and March for DXB.

FlyLAL service starting May08 through to end of S08. 1 flight 7 days a week and additional to their LGW service. They operated briefly around Christmas and New Year and loads pretty good by all accounts..

Shame about Transavia ... If it wasn't for the web we'd have no idea what's going on !! (Blue 1 departure confirmed same way)

American Airlines
 

American Airlines have announced that they will be delaying their second STN-JFK daily service until August 2008. Apparently due to pilot shortages.

American Airlines
 

Sounds like the honeymoon period is over.

My feelings tell me that they only came to STN to get rid of the likes of Maxjet and EOS. AA main hubs are ORD and DFW....not JFK. I have lost count on the amount of flts between London and New York, but i reckon there is close to 30 a day. I really do think that AA are scaremongering and using the pilot shortage as an excuse.....

Maybe im wrong, but open to discussion

Well you are certainly close with the number of flights.

Wed 05MAR08 there are 33 departures from all apts in LON to all in NYC.

Shyted - absolute rubbish


The pilot shortage is a major embarrassment to them as you can read elsewhere on PPRUNE and very real.

Work starts in the next few weeks on AA's dedicated Business Class lounge replacing the temporary facility they’ve been using at Stansted since service launch. AA wouldn't make this sort of investment without being committed to the route.

I also know for a fact that they are in the middle of recruitment in anticipation of the additional service.

ORD and DFW may be their main hubs but JFK is the principle UK transatlantic destination and you might want to take a look at the new Billion dollar investment they have made in a new Terminal 8 at JFK

Speaking to one of AA sales team before Christmas, Maxjet wasn't even a fly in the ointment, although she was a bit reticent about EOS.

every day i go by their check in, some days they are queing round the corner, it looks a busy flight .

As regulars of pprune know, it's not about load factor, it's about YIELD. American are believed to be moving their last Gatwick flight to Heathrow in November. Consolidation would make more sense.

Considering LHR flights were mved to STN at the time LGW flights were announced to be canned its not as if the two airports are in the same situation here.

AA are in STN for the long haul, unless the pilt situation goes OTT.

How do you figure Heathrow flights were moved to Stansted? They dropped a JFK rotation to accomodate Gatwick to Dallas and Raleigh / Durham, and put pressure on Maxjet. Now they have got a slot to move the last Dallas flight from Gatwick, Gatwick yields are higher than Stansted.....

DFW-LON yields are high, it has nothing to do with the service operating to LGW, LHR or STN.

The STN flight was setup when an LHR frequency was dropped. The STN services have anticipated high yields as they are being actively supported by some of AA's big corporate customers who want to avoid LHR.

Eurocypria are to operate flights for TOM this summer from STN. Couldnt find any other info. Anyone else with info on this?

D_ABAA

Eurocypria
 

Think its a weekly Heraklion charter

Eastern Airways
 

:D Eastern Airways are upping their weekday service STN-MAN to four a day from mid April and will offer a low cost option - from £49 One Way all inc .:ok:

Attn Sat 1
 

Quote -
An airbridge update for Stansted
Yes, the airbridges on Satellite 1 are long past their sell-by-dates and maintenance has been a little sparse, but there will be 10 new airbridges on satellite 1 early next year. Even A10 will be replaced despite it being a relatively new one. All brand spanking new from Thyssen - 5 in March and 5 in May I believe. :ok:


http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/icons/icon15.gif Flying Pigs
Hey Feroman, does Ryanair fly to the planet your living on? 'cos clearly you aint on planet earth. 10 bridges!! all brand new!!
On a more realistic note....does anyone know who has got the cape verdi contract? people are suggesting its servisair.

So, as I said back in October - 10 new Satellite 1 Airbridges are coming with the first install starting the week after next. Should all be completed by the end of June. Of course, whether anyone will be trained on them by the end of Summer will be another thing entirely!