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james170969 22nd Aug 2006 14:56


Originally Posted by EI896
THey must have cancelled it, I would have thought nearly all the routes going to Gerona would be more succesful from everywhere?

Or else people have discovered that Reus is closer.

Just out of curousity - how long would it take to get from both Girona and Reus Airports to the city centre in Barcelona?

phil_2405 22nd Aug 2006 20:36

Any more news on the new MAD base? When will it be announced? I have heard the base may be operational before this year is over....

daz211 22nd Aug 2006 20:44

I have heard from with-in ryanair that
mid november this year there will be
major news that will upset IBERIA and SPANNAIR
and no dout BRITISH AIRWAYS
Im still trying to get more info

phil_2405 22nd Aug 2006 20:46


Originally Posted by daz211
I have heard from with-in ryanair that
mid november this year there will be
major news that will upset IBERIA and SPANNAIR
and no dout BRITISH AIRWAYS
Im still trying to get more info

mid Nov for an annoucement or base launch? If you've heard base launch then that matches what I have heard.

daz211 22nd Aug 2006 20:48

The insider wont say anymore than big news
that will upset some flag carriers

Charlie Roy 22nd Aug 2006 21:22

Baile Atha Cliath
 
Referring to the recently announced FR expansion at Dublin, I have done a quick analysis which has proved quite interesting. The expansion will be thanks to the arrival of 3 new aircraft: one December 19th, another January 23rd, and the last one February 8th. The planes are scheduled for the following usage:

New Aircraft December 19
1-3-5-7 Tampere, Oslo (Finishes day at 20:15)
-2-4-6- Friedrichshafen, Oslo, Grenoble (Finishes day at 22:10)
Certainly, we can expect another new route with this aircraft on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays :cool:

New Aircraft January 23
1-----7 Vitoria, Billund (Finishes day at 16:00)
-2---6- Seville, Almeria (Finishes day at 21:15)
--3-5-- Vitoria, Billund, Rezeszow (Finishes day at 23:30)
---4--- Seville (Finishes day at 13:55)
This aircraft is only fully utilised on Wednesdays and Fridays! Again potential for new routes considering the gaps in the schedule :suspect:

New Aircraft February 8
1-3-5-7 Madrid, Bologna (Finishes day at 19:40)
-2-4-6- Madrid, Pula (Finishes day at 19:40)
This aircraft is free every evening to do one more rotation. Thus we could expect 1 or 2 new routes still to come with the introduction of this aircraft :ok:


Seeing as Ryanair love to maximise use of their aircraft, these gaps will definitely be filled. I suppose the may also be used to increase frequencies on certain existing routes, but a good few new routes are also likely in my opinion. Apparently Ryanair are still in negotiations with the as of yet unannounced new destinations, and/or securing pilots/staff for Dublin, and/or still thinking about what competitors' routes from Dublin they can target... :ouch:

Anyone any info?

Charlie Roy 22nd Aug 2006 22:11

Stockholm reductions
 
From mid-January the booking system shows the Wednesday flights from Skavsta to the following airports disappearing:
Frankfurt
Brussels
Girona
Paris
Riga
Hamburg

Effectively this would mean 2 Skavsta aircraft grounded on Wednesdays :sad: What could this be?
  • A glitch?
  • Staff shortages?
  • An attempt to punish Sweden further?
  • A preferance to ground aircraft rather than fly half empty planes mid-week in winter?

jack_essex 22nd Aug 2006 23:18

Swissport strike action has been called off after Swissport offered an 11% rise over 2 years.

take-off 23rd Aug 2006 17:07

malaga
 
does anybody know why ryanair dont fly to malaga from more uk airports, sure they could easily shake up a number of airlines on that route, for example a route out of bpl would do well if had decent flight times unlike monarch who buggered theirs up with flying late at night then wonders why nobody books the flight then.

jack_essex 23rd Aug 2006 17:56

Also a route like STN - AGP would be hugely popular I'm sure. I just assume the fee's are too high for it to fly to from several UK airports , the same with Alicante. It flies to Murcia (Alicante) and Granada (Malaga I suppose).

7006 fan 25th Aug 2006 06:27

Ryanair Legal Threat
 
Has MOL finally lost the plot, or what!
I understand from the radio news this morning that if the UK Government do not remove the baggage restrictions currently in place at UK airports Mad Mick is going to take them to Court!
I have never heard such drivel in all my life, is this guy for real or what!?
Maybe he should re-address his policy on hold baggage first!
The bloke is a complete :mad:
Michael, you have got it all wrong mate, it is Mr Bin-liner you should be sueing, as it is all his fault in the first place, or should that be George Bush?
:ugh:

Coasthugger 25th Aug 2006 07:22

It's just more free publicity, with the added bonus of painting Ryanair as brave David standing up to the government Goliath. :ugh:

eidah 25th Aug 2006 08:41


Originally Posted by james170969
Just out of curousity - how long would it take to get from both Girona and Reus Airports to the city centre in Barcelona?

I think it is about an hour and a half from girona to the city center and just under an hour from reus to barcelona city center.

ThredNedul 25th Aug 2006 20:02

Ryanair to sue UK Government over security issues.
 
It reported on the BBC news website that Ryanair are to sue the UK Government for £3.3M for losses incurred during the increased security following the recent terror plot.
I was wondering how other users on this forum feel about this ?

I have heard many comments regarding this from family, friends and colleagues who are somewhat all in agreement that this action is wholly inappropiate. The action taken to thwarte the intended actions, that could have resulted in thousands of deaths, was swift and necessary. In the event of a terrorist act actually occuring, the whole airline industry would have been severely disrupted, and traffic numbers substancially reduced for some time. This, in turn, would have cost Ryanair (and all other airlines) far more than a week or so's "inconvenience" of extra security checks. Indeed, many airlines would not have survived such losses and would surely have collapsed.

By persuing compensation, Ryanair could open the gates from other airlines for similar claims. Of course, another indirect effect could be that the government agencies may hesitate to take similar, prompt action in the future weighing up the possible risk with the cost of paying out compensation to the likes of Michael O'Leary.

So, what do other users of this forum think ? Is Ryanair right to sue for compensation, or should the losses incurred be part of the cost of running a business in the current situation ?

bar none 25th Aug 2006 20:29

its a publicity stunt

AlanM 25th Aug 2006 20:44

Is that Cockney rhyming slang for our little Irish whinger??!?:D

Charlie Roy 25th Aug 2006 22:05

I think Ryanair are right to sue. The authorities went completely overboard on security for too long after the threat was revealed. I'm surprised they need to sue though. Wouldn't insurance cover these loses?

RichT 26th Aug 2006 10:43

ThredNedul The action taken to thwarte the intended actions, that could have resulted in thousands of deaths, was swift and necessary

Swift yes. Necessary I don’t think so. Many people believe that just because action is taken it is an improvement in security. In fact the opposite is true. The security system has a limited resource. If you focus that resource in the wrong area then you have weakened the security level. At stansted extra staff were deployed to take food and water away from flight crew members and to body search them. These flight crew members all have security passes to the same level as the guards searching them. The worst case scenario is then that a terrorist is searching a terrorist. We all agree that this is ridiculous so why waste resource on it.

At the same time queues were getting longer and longer for the pax as there were not enough guards to search them. This is just one example I could bore you all day with many more. Crew were allowed to take mobile phones but not car keys with electronic fobs. Whats that all about?

Miss guided security is worse than no security.

Charlie Roy 26th Aug 2006 13:17

Bremen
 
Rumoured routes from the new Bremen base include:

Milan
Pisa
Dublin
Stockholm

http://www.taz.de/pt/2006/08/26/a0340.1/text
"Eine 'Riesenchance für diese Stadt', findet dagegen der Flughafen-Fan Stephan von Dellingshausen, der einen Verein der 'Freunde des Flughafens' betrieb, die Verhandlungen mit Ryanair - 15 neue Verbindungen sollen gebunden werden, darunter Linien nach Stockholm, Pisa, Mailand oder nach Dublin."

Translation: "A 'giant chance for this city', believes airport supporter Stephan von Dellingshausen, who chairs the local 'friends of the airport' association, and who was involved in the Ryanair negotiations - 15 new connections are to be launched, among them lines to Stockholm, Pisa, Milan, even Dublin."

Can't see Stockholm in the first wave of routes if this Swedish aviation tax goes ahead or remains uncertain. Not surprised by Pisa, Milan or Dublin. That just leaves 12 more routes...
My money's on Stansted, Liverpool, Paris Beauvais, Marseille, Girona, Murcia, Oslo Torp, Krakow, Gdansk, Rome, Venice Treviso and Salzburg.

Gpik 26th Aug 2006 19:26

PIK will probably also feature as they had healthy loads on their LBC flights before they were ended...

XSBaggage 26th Aug 2006 21:33

So where does the Bremen base leave Lubeck? I can't imagine FR going ahead with another base so close geographically (yes I know STN and LTN are close, but they have an enormous local population). Can't see the LBC base being confirmed now, hopefully won't affect the Stockholm and Dublin routes from there.

On a similar topic, Infratil airports seem to have made very poor choices both in MSE and LBC, bit of a worry for them I would imagine.

XSB

Charlie Roy 28th Aug 2006 21:27

Bergamo winter
 

Originally Posted by cesare.caldi (Post 2762037)
OPO 1-3-5-7 replace BGY-LPL
SDR -2-4-6- replace BGY-NCL

BGY - LPL and BGY - NCL are now bookable for winter, albeit super late :\
Glitch? Or has FR revised its winter plans for BGY and decided to maintain the status quo after all? Always thought it was going to be rather silly having FR operating Liverpool to Ancona, and not Liverpool to Milan :suspect:

cesare.caldi 29th Aug 2006 07:25

Yes, the confirmations of the BGY-NCL and BGY-LPL is a very big surprise.
For me, confirm these routes so late is a move of the despair not having done in time to announce new routes to replace them, with the winter schedule now to the doors.

However to complete the winter timetable of BGY base remain to announce new routes to replace these:
1) 3x week to the place of the reduction of BGY-PIK that goes from 7 to 4x week
2) 3x week to the place of the reduction of BGY-LBC that goes from 7 to 4x week
3) 7x week to the place of the BGY-CRL evening flight that from end of October will be operated with a CRL based plane.

Ametyst 29th Aug 2006 10:15

Ryanair are advertising services from Liverpool to both Grenoble and Salzburg from 19th December but nothing loaded up on the system yet. However, unannounced routes I have noted for sale on the Ryanair site are

East Midlands to Grenoble, East Midlands to Salzburg and Prestwick to Grenoble.

Skipness One Echo 29th Aug 2006 10:35

Understand Prestwick to Marseilles is getting binned come November after under a year.

Charlie Roy 29th Aug 2006 10:41


Originally Posted by Ametyst (Post 2806120)
Ryanair are advertising services from Liverpool to both Grenoble and Salzburg from 19th December but nothing loaded up on the system yet. However, unannounced routes I have noted for sale on the Ryanair site are

East Midlands to Grenoble, East Midlands to Salzburg and Prestwick to Grenoble.

New Ryanair ski routes
Dublin to Turin
Brussels to Turin
Brussels to Grenoble
Standsted to Klagenfurt
East Midlands to Grenoble
East Midlands to Salzburg
Prestwick to Grenoble

:ok:

Still have to analyse which routes (if any) have been reduced from the bases involved (Stansted, Dublin, East Midlands, Prestwick, Brussels) to facilitate these new ski routes. Interesting move by Ryanair to maximise on the ski season. A bit like what Jet2 are doing.

cesare.caldi 29th Aug 2006 11:38

TRN-CRL from 19/12 3x week

CRL-TRN 13:10-14:45 2-4
TRN-CRL 15:10-16:45 2-4
CRL-TRN 18:10-19:45 6
TRN-CRL 20:10-21:45 6

TRN-DUB from 20/12 2x week

DUB-TRN 06:50-10:10 3-6
TRN-DUB 10:35-12:00 3-6

Charlie Roy 29th Aug 2006 19:31

Ski routes
 
So Ryanair shuffled their schedules about today for a number of bases so as to introduce some winter ski routes. A good idea in general as reduced routes will be guaranteed good loads, and the new routes can hope for high yields :cool:

For example to facilitate the introduction of Brussels Charleroi - Grenoble and Turin, flights to Glasgow Prestwick and Valladolid have been reduced from 1234567 to 1-3-5-7. Grenoble and Turin are shorter rotations which is also good for pilot hours, fuel costs and yields. I'm a bit surprised though by the reductions in PIK. I thought maybe Carcassonne or Nimes would have been more obvious choices. After all, since SN Brussels axed their 10 weekly service to Glasgow earlier this year, PIK has been the only link between Ayrshire/Glasgow and Belgium :ouch:

Anyone know where the reductions have been in East Midlands, Stansted, Dublin and Prestwick? (If any?) The Ryanair press release also talked about increased frequencies :confused: and also about Luton, but no routes were announced for there today. However, it would seem for Luton that one aircraft still has one short rotation unscheduled 12345--. Maybe then Luton may also be getting an as of yet unannounced ski route? :suspect:

flugholm 29th Aug 2006 20:58

The NRN situation...
 
The Winter 2006-2007 data for Niederrhein (EDLV/NRN) look like this:
STN 16x weekly (vs. Summer 2006: 12)
SNN 3 (4)
CIA 4 (7)
GRO 7 (7)
NYO 7 (7)
PIK 4 (4)
Sum: 41 (41)
No big changes for an airport that's desperate for more flights...!
:zzz:

cesare.caldi 29th Aug 2006 21:50

With these new ski route Ryanair for first time in history open seasonal routes! It's a big change in his politics to operate route only all year round.
So next year it will be possible to introduce new seasonal routes to typical summer destinations like PMI, IBZ and MAH like Easyjet?

FlyingV 30th Aug 2006 10:28

Ryanair signs deal for in-flight mobile phone service
 
From RTE news this morning


Ryanair has agreed a deal with communications joint venture OnAir to fit its aircraft with technology to allow passengers to use their mobile phones on planes.

Ryanair said in a statement today that it would install the system on its entire fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft from mid-2007.


'Ryanair's passengers will be able to call, text and e-mail using their mobile phones, BlackBerrys and Treos at rates which will mirror international roaming charges,' the airline said.



Users will be charged by their mobile service providers on their monthly bills and Ryanair will receive a commission from OnAir, it said.


OnAir is a joint venture between planemaker Airbus and information technology systems provider SITA. Its ground network will be provided by Monaco Telecom.

Ryanair shares were up nine cent to €7.50 in Dublin this morning.
http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0830/ryanair.html

eidah 30th Aug 2006 17:24

possible new routes
 
RYANAIR PROPOSES NEW ROUTES FOR MALTA

Ryanair today (30th August) confirmed that it had submitted proposals to the Maltese Government to fly three new routes to Malta International Airport from London Luton, Pisa and Dublin. The proposal is a response to the Maltese Government’s call to low cost airlines for offers to fly routes to the Mediterranean island.
Ryanair’s plan is to launch, on a year round basis, a daily service from London Luton starting on 31st October 2006, a three times weekly service from Pisa starting on 31st October 2006 and a three times weekly service from Dublin starting on 9th February 2007.

(from the ryanair website)

Charlie Roy 30th Aug 2006 22:07

Ryanair passenger refused wheelchair
 
Don't know what to make of this story:

http://www.irishpost.co.uk/news/story.asp?j=4561

I think the check-in girl should have gotten over the whole rules and regulations thing and just tried her best along with airport staff to find the man a wheelchair.

Then though, I think if the guy really was so sick should he have been allowed to fly... ?

jabird 31st Aug 2006 10:28

"NEW"

Standsted to Klagenfurt

Didn't they drop route when incentive stopped (wasn't this one about five years?). No more Styrian Spirit, so who's courted who to get this one back?

daz211 31st Aug 2006 13:10

from uk airpot news

so has it been confirmed ?

Budget airline Ryanair has announced it is launching three routes to the Malta International Airport. Starting its operations in November, the services include daily flights to Luton and three flights a week to Pisa, Italy.
In a business breakfast, the company announced that it will also run a route between Malta and Dublin, three times a week. This new service will begin in February:D

Charlie Roy 31st Aug 2006 13:26


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 2811055)
from uk airpot news

so has it been confirmed ?

Budget airline Ryanair has announced it is launching three routes to the Malta International Airport. Starting its operations in November, the services include daily flights to Luton and three flights a week to Pisa, Italy.
In a business breakfast, the company announced that it will also run a route between Malta and Dublin, three times a week. This new service will begin in February:D

No, it has not been confirmed at all. The business breakfast was yesterday, where they announced their proposal. "Ryanair has announced it is launching three routes to the Malta International Airport" is incorrect reporting.

This is either bad reporting/journalism by this website, or their source conveyed incorrect information to them. The Maltese government already said that the proposal analysis will take weeks not days. Ryanair are anxious to know whether the proposal will be accepted or not, so they reveal their proposal with dates and frequencies and all to get the Maltese people and others excited, and thereby pressurising the government into choosing in favour of Ryanair, and soon!

Also, Easyjet have proposed to serve Luton. I believe only one operator will be allowed to fly this route. It hasn't been decided yet who, and it is a potential stumbling block for the whole thing. If Ryanair don't get Luton they might say that they won't do any routes at all then, blah blah blah.

But it is only natural that Ryanair want this proposal analysis process sped up so bookings can start asap, or because if they do fail to be awarded the incentives, then they need to implement other scheduling plans for the Dublin, Luton and Pisa aricraft involved...

daz211 31st Aug 2006 13:54

thats what I thought
but read it on a uk airport news site
and they even give start dates

airhumberside 31st Aug 2006 13:56

HUY-DUB is now officially axed :{

daz211 31st Aug 2006 14:11

charlie roy
 
charlie roy chk your (PM)

eidah 31st Aug 2006 16:00


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 2811171)
thats what I thought
but read it on a uk airport news site
and they even give start dates

But you cant book it on the ryanair website


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 2811055)
from uk airpot news

so has it been confirmed ?

Budget airline Ryanair has announced it is launching three routes to the Malta International Airport. Starting its operations in November, the services include daily flights to Luton and three flights a week to Pisa, Italy.
In a business breakfast, the company announced that it will also run a route between Malta and Dublin, three times a week. This new service will begin in February:D

According to the ryanair website its just in discussions not confirmed


Originally Posted by jabird (Post 2810703)
"NEW"

Standsted to Klagenfurt

Didn't they drop route when incentive stopped (wasn't this one about five years?). No more Styrian Spirit, so who's courted who to get this one back?

Its an old route but started up again dont know how they can call it a new route though. They have done that before they did it with Esberg last year I think as well


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