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Hirsutesme 2nd Aug 2006 09:12

I've read the statement, and by Ryanair's usual lucid standard, it is gobbledygook! Whilst one might detest Ryanairs methods, their PR is usually of a high order. Most peculiar

larshakan 2nd Aug 2006 15:17

Torrejon? TOJ!

jabird 2nd Aug 2006 23:11

Cyrano, that certainly sounds like a logical plan for FR. I'm also surprised by the suggestions that they would go in anywhere as a base (eg LYS, MAD) without opening up a few inbound routes first to test the waters. Can see the logic of EIN as a base, but RTM must be closer still to the main population centres of the Ranstaad - presumably they haven't felt the need to do a deal with FR, due to heavy presence of Transavia?
Comparisons of French airport stats to UK ones never ceases to amaze me - compare their #2 city - NCE, with UK cities, and it would be lower end of the top 10.
"Can you ever see Ryanair operating from Belfast International?"
Was discussing this earlier on. Belfast seems in the unique position amongst EU cities of having two airports, but no presence of FR at either of them. Presumably local restrictions stop them from being interested in BHD (an otherwise totally un-Ryanair like airport, but if the deal was right.....) - and my understanding is that BFS management don't feel the need to do any deal making with FR, rather than any specific threats from the Orange men (which would of course be totally anti-competitive). Or is there something more political than this?

Yak97 3rd Aug 2006 07:55

FR - EIN NOT RTM?
 
Dosn't RTM still have problems with their local council and is very slot restricted (based on an overall noise rating rather than runway slots)?

triplespool 3rd Aug 2006 12:13

What about a large north UK base
 
No one has mentioned a possible base Doncaster, it seems to be crying out for someone like ryan to be based there. Maybe TOM are putting pressure on the owners to stop this it sure would be a problem for them if a dozen 800’s turned up with routes half the cost, just a thought.
Trip

840 3rd Aug 2006 12:47


Originally Posted by Yak97
Dosn't RTM still have problems with their local council and is very slot restricted (based on an overall noise rating rather than runway slots)?

Yes

There's little chance of an increase in movements out of RTM.

Although the airport itself is situated in Rotterdam, which gave permission for an increase, the problems are caused by the neighnouring councils in Schiedam and Berkel en Rodenrijs, both of which lie under the flight paths.

It's a pity, because it would be possible to operate a nice little operation out of there. The airport itself is small, but quite pleasant.

I don't know if the fact the airport is owned by Schiphol who wouldn't welcome the competition might be a block on development there too.

aeulad 3rd Aug 2006 13:25

DSA is only 40 mins drive from the large existing FR base at NEMA, I don't see any FR aircraft being based at DSA in the near future.

Regards

Mike

eu01 4th Aug 2006 18:04

New destination
 
Bremen in Germany (BRE/EDDW) will become a new FR destination in early 2007. According to Radio Bremen, the official announcement will be made next week.

daz211 4th Aug 2006 18:07

SOUNDS GOOD
 
Do you know from where ? stn ?

eu01 4th Aug 2006 18:18

STN?
 
Most probably yes, from STN, although it hasn't been hinted yet.

dwlpl 4th Aug 2006 18:24


Originally Posted by eu01
Bremen in Germany (BRE/EDDW) will become a new FR destination in early 2007. According to Radio Bremen, the official announcement will be made next week.


Die Billigfluglinie Ryanair will künftig auch ab Bremen starten. Nach Informationen von Radio Bremen sollen in der kommenden Woche die Verträge unterschrieben werden. Die Billigflieger sollen dem Bremer Airport pro Jahr rund eine Million zusätzliche Fluggäste bescheren. Los gehen soll es im Frühjahr 2007. Welche Ziele Ryanair von Bremen aus ansteuert, ist noch offen.

Translation bitte?

CentreFix25 4th Aug 2006 19:20

Anyone confirm the NCL/LPL - BGY has gone, it's still not bookable?

anna_list 4th Aug 2006 22:43

Hi,


Originally Posted by dwlpl
Translation bitte?

The no-frills airline Ryanair would also like to fly from Bremen in future. According to information from Radio Bremen, the contracts should be signed over the next few weeks. The budget airline would bring around a million extra passengers a year to Bremen Airport. Things should kick off early in 2007. The destinations that Ryanair will serve from Bremen are still unknown.

jarino 5th Aug 2006 11:30

from a German newspaper this morning: Ryanair will base three aircrafts in BRE and fly to 15 destinations.
Contract could be signed within the next few days according to sources from the board of Airport Bremen. BRE invited all airlines in the EU to bid for this contract, and Ryanair won. (Obviously heavy subsidies are involved)

cesare.caldi 6th Aug 2006 19:03

Rumors about new Ryanair route from BGY
 
SCQ 2-4-6 replace reductions of BGY-PIK
OPO 1-3-5-7 replace BGY-LPL
SDR -2-4-6- replace BGY-NCL
WRO 2-4-6 replace reductions of BGY-LBC
KRK 1234567 replace BGY-CRL evening flight. Now operate by a CRL based plane

In BGY will be based a new 737 with this new route:

1-3-5-7
BGY-BBU-BGY-ARD-BGY-RIX-BGY

-2-4-6-
BGY-BBU-BGY-SOB-BGY-KUN-BGY

airhumberside 6th Aug 2006 19:51

So Ryanair look to be expanding into Romania if that is true

By ARD do you mean Arad? (ARD is Alor Island in Indonesia)

cesare.caldi 6th Aug 2006 19:56


Originally Posted by airhumberside
So Ryanair look to be expanding into Romania if that is true

By ARD do you mean Arad? (ARD is Alor Island in Indonesia)

Yes ARD for me is Arad.

Charlie Roy 7th Aug 2006 08:57


Originally Posted by cesare.caldi
SCQ 2-4-6 replace reductions of BGY-PIK
OPO 1-3-5-7 replace BGY-LPL
SDR -2-4-6- replace BGY-NCL
WRO 2-4-6 replace reductions of BGY-LBC
KRK 1234567 replace BGY-CRL evening flight. Now operate by a CRL based plane

In BGY will be based a new 737 with this new route:

1-3-5-7
BGY-BBU-BGY-ARD-BGY-RIX-BGY

-2-4-6-
BGY-BBU-BGY-SOB-BGY-KUN-BGY

Wizzair won't be happy :\

Ananda 7th Aug 2006 09:02

As i see Ryanair expands into the Balkans such us Pula, maybe ARD.
Any news regarding expansion into the Greek market?

Charlie Roy 7th Aug 2006 09:29

Bremen
 

Originally Posted by jarino
from a German newspaper this morning: Ryanair will base three aircrafts in BRE and fly to 15 destinations.
Contract could be signed within the next few days according to sources from the board of Airport Bremen. BRE invited all airlines in the EU to bid for this contract, and Ryanair won. (Obviously heavy subsidies are involved)

A base in Bremen?? Wasn't expecting that! Had read news articles alright that Bremen had been singled out as a future Ryanair destination, but I am really shocked to hear that Bremen is to be a base. Pleased too, and I hope they introduce Bremen to Charleroi ;) Any rumours on possible destinations from the Bremen base then?

So if Ryanair are going to announce 3 bases before the end of the year, what have we then: Bremen, Madrid and...

Lyon? Porto? Krakow?

Poor Hamburg Lübeck must be disgusted that Bremen'll be a Ryanair base. Lübeck was all set to become a base there last year, but then it didn't materialise, and since there has been a noteworthy reduction in Ryanair operations there. Glasgow and Shannon axed, Milan reduced, dunno what else...

jabird 7th Aug 2006 16:46

"Had read news articles alright that Bremen had been singled out as a future Ryanair destination, but I am really shocked to hear that Bremen is to be a base."

I would expect to see the usual "1m pa potential" hot air, but one or two inward routes first, then upgrade to a base later if they sell well.

Poor Hamburg Lübeck must be disgusted that Bremen'll be a Ryanair base.

Think local politics has got in the way here - LBC was refused permission to upgrade airfield facilities, so FR took their expansion plans elsewhere.

phil_2405 7th Aug 2006 18:07

jabird

I believe the base at NEMA came about because LBC wasn't ready to expand.

Devonair 9th Aug 2006 08:49

Ryanair's big expansion from Dublin
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....=rte-en-090806

positive 9th Aug 2006 08:49

new dublin ryanair routes
 
RYANAIR ANNOUNCES BIGGEST EVER EXPANSION AT DUBLIN 12 NEW EUROPEAN ROUTES START FROM DECEMBER

Ryanair, Ireland’s largest airline, today (Wednesday, 9th August 2006) unveiled a significant expansion of its European operations at Dublin Airport. From December, Ryanair will base three new aircraft in Dublin Airport, create over 200 jobs, and start services on twelve new routes from Dublin to points all over Europe. The new schedule of routes is as follows:

Destination
Starts
Frequency

Oslo (Norway)
Dec
Daily

Madrid (Spain)
Feb
Daily

Tampere (Finland)
Dec
Four Weekly

Vitoria (Spain)
Jan
Four Weekly

Billund (Denmark)
Jan
Four Weekly

Bologna (Italy)
Feb
Four Weekly

Grenoble (France)
Dec
Three Weekly

Friedrichshafen (Germany)
Dec
Three Weekly

Seville (Spain)
Jan
Three Weekly

Pula (Croatia)
Feb
Three Weekly

Almeria (Spain)
Jan
Two Weekly

Rzeszow (Poland)
Jan
Two Weekly

These new destinations start in December 2006 and will be served by Ryanair on a year round basis.


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Vapor 9th Aug 2006 09:14

Some interesting routes out of Dublin. Is the Madrid route to Barajas? And is Billund far from Copenhagen?

egnxema 9th Aug 2006 09:20

Yeap Madrid is to (MAD) - Barajas.

Devonair 9th Aug 2006 09:26


Originally Posted by Vapor
Some interesting routes out of Dublin. Is the Madrid route to Barajas? And is Billund far from Copenhagen?


Billund is in Jutland which is the part of Denmark which borders Germany. Copenhagen lies on an island between Jutland and Sweden. I think Legoland is near Billund.

dwlpl 9th Aug 2006 09:28

Also the aircraft is doing DUB-MAD-DUB, as opposed to a MAD-DUB-MAD. So, as yet, no official MAD base.

Looooong haul 9th Aug 2006 09:43

Only difference is that Aer Lingus brings you there where you want to be :)

ps What happened to we will no expand at Dublin :rolleyes:

jabird 9th Aug 2006 09:54

They made a big song and dance about Denmark removing its aviation tax, so this finally sees them bringing a promised new route.

Wouldn't have expected a base at MAD straight away, but FR do seem to have a few Iberian routes from Ireland (and CRL) which they don't do from the UK (also AGP, FAO).

MAD just doesn't seem to be Ryanair's "type" of airport, but do they have plenty of spare space after the new terminal opened? Or are they operating these routes because they can get decent yields due to relative lack of competition?

Either way, just goes to show that FR will go anywhere if the deal is right.

Vapor 9th Aug 2006 10:58

I'm surprised they are going to Barajas too. I thought that it might have been that new Don Quxiote airport which is not really in Madrid at all, but will have a high speen rail link. Don't know when it will open though.

johnrizzo2000 9th Aug 2006 11:39

It will be intersting to see what happens on the DUB-MAD route as both EI and IB are already flying it. FR are adding 12 new routes including MAD from DUB, so it will be very intersting to see what happens in the latest round of EI vs FR in DUB!!!

johnrizzo2000 9th Aug 2006 11:43

Come on AerLingus! Launch a load of new routes, or fight back, or do something at all!!!!!!:D

3REDS 9th Aug 2006 12:00

Move over Aer Lingus! Ryanair is now Ireland’s national airline.
I would not be happy if an airline like this bully boy represented my country.
The luck of the Irish has just run out me thinks to be sure.

spanishflea 9th Aug 2006 12:12


Originally Posted by Looooong haul
Only difference is that Aer Lingus brings you there where you want to be :)

That comment doesnt really stand up to the routes announced today. All but Oslo are the main city airports, including the very surprising decision to fly to MAD for Madrid, rather than any other smaller airport.

840 9th Aug 2006 12:15


Originally Posted by johnrizzo2000
Come on AerLingus! Launch a load of new routes, or fight back, or do something at all!!!!!!:D

I doubt they have the aircraft to do that. I think they have only two A320s still to arrive now. Any major expansion of routes would mean frequency cuts to other destinations.

XSBaggage 9th Aug 2006 13:06

Spanishflea,

Not entirely correct - the route to Bologna uses Forli airport.

XSB

malagajohn 9th Aug 2006 13:28


Originally Posted by spanishflea
That comment doesnt really stand up to the routes announced today. All but Oslo are the main city airports, including the very surprising decision to fly to MAD for Madrid, rather than any other smaller airport.


Still waiting for Cuidad Real to open - or are they negotiating behind the scenes with AENA to open a new base in one of Europe's biggest airports?

escortmk2 9th Aug 2006 13:37

Just booked DUB-MAD-DUB with FR in Feb. for €58 in total for two people incl. credit card charges.

Shamrock 125 9th Aug 2006 13:46

i know i just did the same thing. out on a saturday in february and back home the next day. €29 taxes and credit card fee return. i simply couldn't resist. even if i cant go it doesnt break the bank.


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