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daz211 20th Sep 2006 17:26

At a guess I would think LTN, BGY or DUB but only a guess.

cesare.caldi 20th Sep 2006 17:31

Ryanair open HHN-GOA
 
Ryanair open new route from Genoa (GOA) to Frankfurt Hahn (HHN) 3x week from 1st of february 2007.

HHN-GOA 14:35-16:10 2-4-6
GOA-HHN 16:35-18:10 2-4-6

On sale now.

Charlie Roy 20th Sep 2006 17:32


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 2863193)
At a guess I would think LTN, BGY or DUB but only a guess.

Dublin would seem entirely feasbible, especially since in Bremen airport's press release yesterday they said that Ryanair were introducing an Irish route. BGY or LTN would deserve higher frequencies than a mere -2-4-6- I would have thought.

Me just guessing too though, anyone with the facts?

cesare.caldi 20th Sep 2006 17:41


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 2863193)
At a guess I would think LTN, BGY or DUB but only a guess.

I bet on dublin

Now with two bases it's possible for Ryanair to start internal route in Germany?

LGS6753 20th Sep 2006 20:46

I can't see it being Luton. Easy already operate twice daily Bremen-Luton with Bremen based minibuses.

Charlie Roy 20th Sep 2006 20:50

LGS6753

No, it's a once daily flight using a Luton based aircraft, isn't it? In any case a -2-4-6- from Ryanair would still find it difficult to compete.

Powerjet1 20th Sep 2006 21:09

Understand that it is now ryan's intention, at least as far as Luton is concerned, to operate flights to overseas destinations, using only Luton based aircraft. The reason for this I'm not entirely sure but I think I can guess. However, it does mean that flights into LTN from other ryan bases, using their based aircraft, is now fairly unlikely. Of course we all know things can change. Consequently any expansion in routes & services will tend to come from the Luton end.

daz211 21st Sep 2006 10:28

Ryanair new routes
 
Ryanair has announced more new routes,

All From Dublin.

Oslo, Madrid, Tenerife north, Tampere, Fuerteventura, Turin,
Vitoria, billund, Seville, Almeria, Rzeszow, Bolongna, Pula,
Trapani, Alghero.

See airlines website for dates, As I cant be :mad: to right it all again, I dont know what the people that run this place have agains me but two threads re this announcement have vanished this morning.:sad:

Manston Airport 21st Sep 2006 11:01

I see that Ryanair have stated that they will make BOH a base within the next 5 or 6 years :D I cant wait for this to happen.

James

johnref 21st Sep 2006 11:01

Derry - Prestwick announced 5 days per week

eu01 21st Sep 2006 12:38

Did we expect any sensational news to come out at the Annual General Meeting of FR? Well, probably yes, but what's been left actually? The new German base has already been announced and carrier's outlook is as good as expected... Nevertheless, I have found something intriguing as well. Let me quote just a short fragment of MOL's speech. Do you want to make any own conclusions?

"I think if there were open skies, we'd certainly look at maybe setting up a sister or a brother airline to Ryanair which would look at operating long-haul, low-fare flights, particularly from Ireland to the United States."
Source: Michael O'Leary at AGM, Dublin, Sept. 21.

daz211 21st Sep 2006 12:48

Would be nice and I bet it would be well used.

What would they call it?

airhumberside 21st Sep 2006 17:47

Any more info on DUB-NYO?

SXB 21st Sep 2006 19:21


Quote:
"I think if there were open skies, we'd certainly look at maybe setting up a sister or a brother airline to Ryanair which would look at operating long-haul, low-fare flights, particularly from Ireland to the United States."
Source: Michael O'Leary at AGM, Dublin, Sept. 21.
It would be somewhat difficult for Ryanair to get into the long-haul market, their model, even via a sister comapny, wouldn't work as well in this segment.

Things like the fast turnaround doesn't become so much of an issue because of the reduced number of sectors, they'd also have to start paying for their staff to stay in hotels and they'd have to clean the planes. Additionally, cramming passengers into a 737 for a 1hr journey is one thing but cramming them into a A330 for 8 hours is another.

There is also the fact that they don't have any equipment capable of flying long haul nor the staff to fly them.

Their only option would be to buy an existing airline, which isn't going to happen because they'd have to impose their working models on staff who are probably unionized and protected. One of the pseudo-charter/scheduled companies might be an option though. We'll see what happens.

akerosid 21st Sep 2006 20:01

I think you need to look at this statement in the context of the EI privatisation; every analyst, their granny and the dog and their granny's analyst is saying that EI needs to develop long haul; what better way to undermine EI than to threaten this. All he needs to do is to make it plausible in some way. The reference to the SNN stopover suggests a focus on the Irish market (whereas the overall Open Skies would allow him to do this from all across Europe), so that kind of suggests to me that they're looking at spiking EI and if they can undermine EI on long haul, they can really put the squeeze on them on short haul ...

That said, I don't think it can be ruled out. If this website were around 15 years ago and someone had said that there'd be an Irish airline which would be one of the biggest and fastest growing in Europe, using only 737s, you'd probably have doubted it; I think there are fundamental differences in long haul, not least because people want their creature comforts, BUT we will get to a stage of having Open Skies and indeed, the Shannon stopover could be lifted (or at least greatly alleviated) by next month, so he could well try and dip his toe in the water.

If I had to take a guess, however, I think it's something he will look at, but right now, he's just saying it to undermine EI.

Charlie Roy 21st Sep 2006 20:33


Originally Posted by Manston Airport (Post 2864499)
I see that Ryanair have stated that they will make BOH a base within the next 5 or 6 years :D I cant wait for this to happen.

What is the source of your information regarding Ryanair at BOH? In the Bournemouth thread you also mentioned new Ryanair routes for BOH next year? Was this talked about at today's AGM? Or... ?


Originally Posted by akerosid (Post 2865394)
I think it's something he will look at, but right now, he's just saying it to undermine EI.

I also feel the same way. Ryanair mentioned longhaul today solely as another dig to Aer Lingus.

Does anyone have a link to a news article or official statement which reveals what was said and talked about at Ryanair's AGM today?

daz211 21st Sep 2006 20:59

Ryanair could op a sister company, having longhaul destinations from each of their bases that could handle larger a/c, there is nothing to stop them
op these routes as a normal priced airline, with full frills and use the low cost model as a feeder airline, I could see this working, or just use Stansted as the long haul base and let other airlines bring in the pax.:E

LGS6753 21st Sep 2006 21:01

Charlie Roy,

I'm fairly sure (90%+!) that EZY's Bremen-Luton is operated by BRE-based A319s twice a day. The flight numbers are 4xxx whereas LTN flight numbers are 2xxx. Also, there are no EZY 319s based at LTN so far (although they operate in from BRE, EDI and GLA).

eu01 21st Sep 2006 21:16


Originally Posted by Charlie Roy (Post 2865442)
Does anyone have a link to a news article or official statement which reveals what was said and talked about at Ryanair's AGM today?

Try this (via France, but in English)
or this (Reuters)

caja 21st Sep 2006 21:53

Carcassonne and Ryanair aim for 600,000 passengers in 2007
 
Other new routes announced at the Annual General meeting of the Carcassonne Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
The possible new routes announced at the Annual General meeting of the Carcassonne Chamber of Commerce and Industry, CCI, were Frankfurt Hann, Eindhoven which would greatly assist the Dutch, a significant minority in the Aude both in terms of second homers and permanent residents, and Liverpool.

http://www.midi-life.com/News/Carcas...rs_in_2007.htm

Charlie Roy 21st Sep 2006 21:53


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 2865489)
Charlie Roy,

I'm fairly sure (90%+!) that EZY's Bremen-Luton is operated by BRE-based A319s twice a day. The flight numbers are 4xxx whereas LTN flight numbers are 2xxx. Also, there are no EZY 319s based at LTN so far (although they operate in from BRE, EDI and GLA).

Hmmmm... If you try to book a flight between Luton and Bremen with Easyjet it shows a once daily flight that leaves Luton at 18:55, arrives Bremen 21:20, then leaves Bremen at 21:45 to arrive back in Luton at 22:10 ... It would seem this route is operated by a Luton based aircraft. Easyjet don't have any other routes from Bremen, so I don't believe they have an aircraft based there.... Maybe you're thinking of another route?

Sorry this isn't Ryanair related

virginblue 21st Sep 2006 21:56


Originally Posted by LGS6753 (Post 2865489)
Charlie Roy,
I'm fairly sure (90%+!) that EZY's Bremen-Luton is operated by BRE-based A319s twice a day. The flight numbers are 4xxx whereas LTN flight numbers are 2xxx. Also, there are no EZY 319s based at LTN so far (although they operate in from BRE, EDI and GLA).

No, it is a once daily late evening flight

LTN 1855 - 2120 BRE 2145 - 2210 LTN EZY 2815/6 73G

Charlie Roy 21st Sep 2006 23:26


Originally Posted by caja (Post 2865564)
The possible new routes announced at the Annual General meeting of the Carcassonne Chamber of Commerce and Industry, CCI, were Frankfurt Hann, Eindhoven

Eindhoven is an interesting one. Simply because it would mean W-ing from another base like Stansted or Charleroi (or Hahn!)...

Evileyes 22nd Sep 2006 01:18

Ryanair thread continued here:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=244938

It got too big and had to be "PPRuNed"


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