Unfortunatly jabird you are misreading it.

Madrid does not necessarily = Barajas!

RAT 5

Stumbled across this on a site:

FR1029 arrives Eindhoven 1335 from MAD
FR1031 departs Eindhoven 1400 to MAD

All flights daily starting from 29th Oct 2006.

RAT 5

It is Madrid BARAJAS we are talking about. Read through my posts and read the news articles I've including links to.

Ryanair's next base is Madrid Barajas :cool:

Charlie Roy

I would have to agree from what I've heard & seen recently.

Can you e-mail me the website that you have found those slots on please.
I was woundering if there was anything there on a NCL-madrid flight

If its the website I think it is, it is the dutch slot coordination website which wouldnt be much use for UK-Spain flights

I was alarmed by this post when I looked at it, sorry if that came out in a bad way!!! But I have just looked up the FR website after seeingf this post and there is no indecation that Ryanair are starting from Eindhoven any time soon. Sorry in advance, EI896

If Ryanair have yet to announce routes from Madrid, be it as a base or not, then it will not be on their website until its all official.

I would expect an annnouncement by the end of August if it is going to happen.

Yes that's true but, Half of us don't even know what they'll pick as a base or Madrid just for new routes my point is we don't know yet.

EI896

I'm surprised by your surprise.
News of a Ryanair base in Madrid has been rife this last month.
Ryanair just can't get enough of Eindhoven EIN right now, with already new services this winter to Glasgow PIK and Marseille MRS. Of the existing services all are performing very well, and Pisa PSA and Milan BGY are reportedly doing extremely well!

Eindhoven has a great catchment area, being in one of the most densely populated areas in Europe. (Although the immediate surrounding area is quite green).

So why not Madrid - Eindhoven?

More than a year ago, I anounced MRS as the first French Ryanair base...
Next French base will be LYON in a very near future...you bet!

Are Lyon building a LoCo terminal like MRS?

Lyon LYS
 

Wow, merci for that juicy titbit of news Baron Rouge.

FR at LYS :} (France's 4th busiest Airport after CDG ORY NCE)
That would be great!

http://ufcna.com/forum-actualite.htm...orum=actualite
"Une toute nouvelle aérogare dédiée uniquement aux compagnies à bas coût doit ouvrir en septembre à Marseille. Pas de climatisation, des
escaliers pour accéder aux avions au lieu d'une passerelle, tout a été
pensé pour que les prestations coûtent le moins cher possible. La
redevance passager n'y sera que d'1,3 euro contre 6 euros dans un
terminal classique.
Ryanair a décidé d'y créer sa première base en France. L'aéroport compte ainsi faire passer son trafic low cost de 400.000 passagers par an à deux millions d'ici fin 2008.
Même scénario à Lyon, où l'aéroport a pour objectif 1,8 million de
passagers low cost en 2010, contre 200.000 actuellement.
L'aéroport réaménage à cet effet un vaste pavillon de 3.700m2 installé
à l'écart, où la redevance passager ne sera que de 1,5 euro. Ryanair et
EasyJet ont déjà répondu à l'appel à candidature. La décision doit être
prise cet été."

A quick translation of above ( http://babelfish.altavista.com ) gives that, yes, it appears that LYS are constructing a seperate dedicated low cost terminal/pavillion capable of handling 1.8 million passengers. Charges per passenger will be a mere €1.50, similar to the €1.30 being charged by the new Marseille low cost terminal.
Ryanair and Easyjet are currently in negotiations with Lyon, with decisions expected this summer :) Ryanair also have significant expansion plans for their new Marseille base which has even taken off yet!

I read i another article that Easyjet are almost certain to introduce 2 or 3 new routes to Lyon.

Interesting times ahead. High time someone came along shook up Air France anyway ;)

No doubt AF's lawyers are warming up to block the LCC terminal at LYS...

Charlie Roy:

So why not EIN as the base then?

Einhoven base
 

RAT 5

Ryanair wish to base 2 aircraft at Eindhoven, and add 11 destinations from there. However they will not base any aircraft there until they can be assured that they will not be impeded by the current noise :\ deal with the locals, and not until the Ministry of Traffic has changed the law about sound restrictions at Eindhoven airport. (This is happening...) I don't know too much about all the legal/noise stuff, but I've heard it should be all sorted out soon. "Soon" as definied in politics I suppose... Looking at aircraft orders etc and hearing some hotter rumours on other potential bases we might have to wait until 2008 for an Eindhoven base. It will happen though :)

http://www.brabant.nl/layouts/SISHtm...45&doctype=doc
"Het merendeel van de GLOBE-partijen staat achter de groeiplannen van Eindhoven Airport. Een aantal partijen zijn op zich niet tegen een beperkte groei van de burgerluchtvaart op Eindhoven Airport, maar willen dit afhankelijk stellen van een inkrimping van de militaire oefenactiviteiten met jachtvliegtuigen op het vliegveld.
De groeiplannen betekenen concreet dat Ryanair begin volgend jaar op Eindhoven 2 vliegtuigen en op termijn nog eens 2 vliegtuigen permanent op Eindhoven Airport wil stationeren. Daarmee kan het aantal bestemmingen binnen Europa groeien van 5 naar 16 bestemmingen."

Quick translation ( you may also use http://babelfish.altavista.com ): "Most of the GLOBE-parties support the Eindhoven growth plans. Some are not against a limited growth in civilian aircraft movements at the airport, but wish that this should depend on the increase in military exercises using fighter jets at the airport. Ryanair have concrete plans to base 2 aircraft at Eindhoven next year (2006), expecting to increase their amount of destinations offered from 5 to 16."

Meanwhile Transavia will be basing an aircraft at Eindhoven from November and introducing routes to Faro, Malaga and Alicante. All the more encouragement for Ryanair to speed up their Eindhoven base plans ;)

Copenhagen CPH
 

This is kind of old news but the UK Danish Embassy website was the last place I expected to find this article:

http://www.amblondon.um.dk/en/menu/T...genAirport.htm
"Budget airline Ryanair is in detailed negotiations with Copenhagen Airport regarding opening routes from the popular air travel hub. Copenhagen Airport was recently ranked the best in Europe for the fifth year in succession in an Aetra survey. If the negotiations have a positive outcome, Ryanair will be able to start flights from the Danish capital this autumn
Karl Högstadius, head of sales for Ryanair in Great Britain and Ireland comments: 'The Swedish government has decided to introduce a SEK 95 (USD 12.17) tax on airline tickets. When that tax comes into force we will cut down in Sweden.' From 1 July, Ryanair will close one of its two daily departures between Malmö and London as well as a new route between Malmö and Dublin.
Earlier this week, Copenhagen Airport announced that another budget airline will open a route from Copenhagen. Smart Vings, a Czech Republic airline, will start flights between Copenhagen and Prague on Mondays and Saturdays starting 5 June. In total, 10 budget airlines are now operating from Copenhagen. The news was reported by national newspaper Jyllands-Posten.
Copenhagen Airport is situated just 8 km southeast of Copenhagen city centre. The Øresund bridge between Denmark and Sweden makes a land connection close to the airport with exits from the Danish and Swedish motorway network directly into the airport areas. Copenhagen Airport's attractive location makes it a north European hub for air cargo traffic to Scandinavia, the Baltic States and the countries to the south of the Baltic Sea."

As it stands The Dublin - Malmo route has in fact not been axed, and has remained unchanged between the summer and winter timetables in the booking engine. I wouldn't be overly surprised though if there was an announcement soon, that from a certain date in the winter all Stansted and Dublin flights to Malmo are being moved to CPH...

In Denmark, you see, the opposite is happening to that in Sweden. This year both the Danish government aviation taxes and the CPH airport taxes have been reduced.

Although not at weekends when it repositions back to AMS. I think it is to do with the noise issues. Will have to sorted out because I dont think FR wil want a 5 day a week base

Yes CharlieRoy that sounded quite rude, I know it wouldn't be a surprise but I'm surprised by Ryanair releasing nothing and then people going around with rumours from no-where. And the rumour could just be bull.

But I will give it to you I do think that Ryanair will select Madrid for a new route, but they have confirmed nothing yet.

I thought that Toulouse was the 4th busiest Airport in France?

rumours for the BOH operation:

PIK to rise to 12 weekly flights (twice daily) from next spring in response to BA connect withdrawl from SOU-GLA and Flybe increasing flights from 4 to 6 daily.

If easyJet launch Milan Malpensa (as rumoured) Ryanair will immediately start Milan Bergamo.

Marseille, Stockholm, Murcia and Rome to be launched during 2007 and 2008.

In 2005 Lyon was in 4th position behind CDG ORY and NCE with 6.5 million passengers, Marseille was in 5th position with 5.8 million passengers and Toulouse came 6th with 5.6 million passengers.

BOH
 

Nice ;)

Ah ha, that could be why Ryanair have not yet finalised their winter timetable for Milan, with 21 weekly flights currently unaccounted for...

Interesting to see Ryanair are still thinking of Stockholm in its plans. Do they expect the pending aviation tax to die a quick death? Or shall they nonetheless expand Swedish operations even if they don't get their way on this enviromental tax? ...

And so, we're are not talking about a Ryanair base at BOH? Simply other bases linking to it? If that's the case, looks like Murcia is really on the cards to become a base. Unless of course the aircraft used for MJV - BOH would be doing a W coming from a different base.

That number you were looking for....
 

On Friday the palace of Westminster – seat of the UK government – closed its doors for the annual summer break and it may be that MPs had sun, sea, sand and those summer-holiday flights on the mind.

Buried beneath the traditional rush of early-day motions filed before the house on the last day of parliament (timing surely no coincidence) was one regarding Ryanair’s complaints record in which it was stated that MPs had been lobbied by frustrated Ryanair passengers who have found it impossible to get hold of the airline’s elusive and expensive complaints desk. MPs obviously thought about this subject for quite some time before coming up with the ingenious solution of naming and shaming Caroline Green, head of customer services at Ryanair. The early-morning motion read:

“She can be contacted at [email protected] and the geographical telephone number for the company’s head office in Dublin is 00 353 1812 1212, which is cheaper than its high tariff 0871 number.”

To table an early-morning motion in the UK parliament costs around £300. One MP is quoted as saying: “Seldom, I feel, has taxpayers’ money been so splendidly spent.” Clearly, he is a Ryanair customer too!

I should have mentioned that Stockholm is only on the assumption that they can reach an agreement on fees and charges.

as for Murcia, it is not a base consideration in the short term but BOH-MJV is thought to be a potentially lucratrive route.

BOH-GRO might possibly see an extra one or two flights per week by 2008 (meaning ten flights per week in the summer)

Moeny well spent I agree. But how long before that number changes??

From SayNoTo0870.com (a great site for finding 'real' numbers and 0800 alternatives)

Company Name - 0870 / 0871 - Geographical - Other Info
RyanAir - 0871 2460000 - +353 18121212 - Head Office, Dublin, Eire; Fax: +353 18121213;
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - +353 12497791 - Bookings, Eire;
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - +353 12497700 - Customer services menu - Eire;
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - +353 18121228 - Customer services; Fax: +353 18121230 - Eire;
Ryanairhotel.com - 0871 2460004 - +353 12750233 - Cheaper to call direct to Eire;
Stansted Airport (STN) - 0870 0000303 - 01279 662966 - RyanAir Baggage Enquiries only; ask 'Left Luggage' for a number for other Airlines


Let them change the number - its geo equivalent will soon appear on-line somewhere.

FR used to do BHX-Murcia with a DUB based aircraft so something similar could happen at BOH

Between the day Ryanair begin negotiations with a prospective base, and the day an announcement is made officially on their website, a lot of people learn of the intent to open the base, what routes, what times etc.

Some employees from all of the airports involved, some employees from Ryanair, employees who work for the slot co-ordination centres for the countries / airports involved, even some people from Boeing are probably also savvy.

Then consider the wives / husbands / lovers / brothers / buddies of these people. It just takes a few posts on a few forums from a few people in the know, or some official or unofficial comments to journalists...

A new base usually takes weeks/months of planning, so still I'm not so surprised that Ryanair have already planned the exact frequency, arrival and departure times of a new Madrid - Eindhoven flight. There'll be people in Madrid Airport, in Eindhoven Airport, in the Dutch slot coordination centre (and others who have access to their website), and people in Ryanair who know this.

It is not surprising that this information can surface on the web before the official Ryanair announcement :cool:

This is a rumour forum afterall ;)

EGHH info appreciated
 

Enoying the latest news/thoughts/rumours on new routes - especially those relating to south coast UK airfelds!! Keep it up one and all.

SkyHigh

Taken from todays comments on the FR website re latest financial results.

'Our new bases at Liverpool, East Midlands and Shannon continue to perform well, with strong bookings over the Summer months, albeit that fares at Shannon continue to be lower than expected. We plan to announce two new bases over the coming months with launch dates in early 2007, as well as further expansion of our existing bases.'

I take it SNN-EDI/BOH will mean reductions in frequencies to other SNN routes - is this an attempt to boost yields?

I predict an EMA-BGY FR starting 27OCT

Ryanair at BFS
 

Can you ever see Ryanair operating from Belfast International? They operate from other airports owned by the same group as owns Bfs, but they apparently have never been able to come to an agreement with Bfs. Is the fact that the orange machine has a large operation at Bfs a deterrent? Any views on this ?

True Blue

Quite. These are excerpts from Air Transport Intelligence, I've highlighted an interesting paragraph:



Spain clears way for completion of Don Quijote Airport
David Kaminski-Morrow, Warsaw (23May06, 11:06 GMT, 404 words)

Spanish authorities have given the go-ahead for construction to resume on the country’s first private airport, Don Quijote outside Cuidad Real, after several months’ dormancy prompted by environmental investigations.

...

Don Quijote Airport is being marketed as a potential low-cost airline base for Madrid despite being some 200km south of the capital.

....

While no customers have yet been formally signed to serve the airport, [Don Quijote marketing director] Rafael Echevarne says that discussions have been held with carriers including Irish budget airline Ryanair.

“Low-cost carriers are going to be our main target,” he states. “Airlines in major alliances are still going to go to Madrid Barajas.”

I heard a rumour a while back that Ryanair were talking to Belfast International but that Easyjet threatened to pull out if Ryanair were going to base aircraft there.

Shannon yields
 

Indeed, which SNN routes will be reduced to facilitate the new routes to BOH and EDI?

Glasgow PIK, East Midlands EMA, and Bristol BRS are currently daily from SNN.
I expect we are liable to see Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays possibly disappearing from these routes' schedules.

They've axed LTN, so I suppose LGW and STN are safe enough... (Not holding my breath). But there's no way they'll reduce Paris BVA from daily, as I heard it's FR's best performer at SNN :cool:

RYR punctuation
 

Just copied this from the RYR website.

News Release
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

01.08.06
RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO END ITS SNEAKY FUEL SURCHARGE

'Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline today (1st August) called on Aer Lingus to withdraw its sneaky fuel surcharge which was introduced on 15th May at €35 per long haul ticket – but zero on short haul tickets - because Ryanair guarantees no fuel surcharges Aer Lingus cannot impose them on their short haul passengers.'


Calling today on Aer Lingus to withdraw its fuel surcharges, Peter Sherrard, Ryanair’s Head of Communications said:

“There is no justification for Aer Lingus’ fuel surcharge on long haul passengers only. There is even less justification for the recent €10 increase in Aer Lingus’ fuel surcharge.


Who wrote the first paragraph? It makes no sense whatsoever.

And Peter, you can't have even less justification than no justification.

p.s. It's old news but great to repeat it again.

Ryanair recently lost a major court case on every count against REPA/IALPA.

They were humiliated in the case, were found to have been untruthful and lost a s*** load of money.

Ha ha.....

I can see that Don Quijote would be a more obvious choice for Ryanair than Barajas, but I believe it's not due to open until mid-2007 at the earliest and there seems to be a suggestion (from other posters here) that Ryanair would be starting Madrid services with effect from October 2006.

Now I could certainly see Ryanair starting service from Barajas and then noisily stomping off to Don Quijote in a couple of years pretending to be appalled that landing fees have gone up after their introductory period (see also: BHX, SNN,...) :rolleyes: but I'm not aware of any short-term alternatives to Barajas (unless Quatro Vientos???) if they want to start Madrid services in October.