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touch&go 17th Aug 2006 08:58

Had a look at the CAA stats for may 06 and if I have read them right GSM had the best load factors of all the UK airlines at 87% and carried more pax that Tfly.

Have a look at the link.


http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airline...ices_Table.pdf

Flightrider 17th Aug 2006 11:51

Although it is the norm to common-rate 757/767 pilots, Thomsonfly have been experimenting with dual-rating pilots at smaller bases between the 737 and 757. Where they have one 737 and one 757 (I think Cardiff was the example used), the savings from needing a smaller crew establishment versus the increased training and recurrent costs make it worthwhile. Wouldn't be surprised if more operators started to do this, and with Globespan's increasing number of bases and fleet now split between 737, 757 and 767, it might make sense for them.

Localiser Green 17th Aug 2006 11:58


Originally Posted by point5
If you can fly the 767, then you can fly the 757, right?
Thats how it works at BA.

Pretty much - you still need to do a differences course though to get 757/767 dual endorsement and I think you can then maintain currency on both by doing alternate sim checks (757-767-757-767....), no need to actually fly both types regularly.

webby1919 17th Aug 2006 13:36

Another two routes launched from GLA for W06:

Direct to Barbados & Las Vegas. Barbados weekly and Las Vegas 2 weekly.

Jet_stream 17th Aug 2006 14:17

Nice, looking forward to my weeks in Barbados over the winter.

diesel36 19th Aug 2006 10:05

if there offering 3 class service on tthe gla sfb/bgi/las man/cpt maybe on the lpl/ewr i take it a third 767 is coming, maybe i missed it. are they getting more 767,s as someone said there looking at more longhaul from man..

touch&go 19th Aug 2006 11:08

A third 767 is coming 2007 a full list of aircraft can be found here:

http://www.jethros.i12.com/fleets/fl...yglobespan.htm

alangirvan 21st Aug 2006 22:50

I am just wondering how Globespan will crew a weekly flight to Barbados. The distance looks a bit long to do in one shift - GLA-BGI-GLA - do the crew get a weeks lay over? Would they dead head up to Orlando?

Jet_stream 21st Aug 2006 23:19

Re crewing for BGI....would have thought that it would be lower cost to have the crew stay for the week in hotac rather than all the combined costs of positioning 11 crew from BGI to Florida.

Would imagine that GSM will have a deal with one of the hotels which will feature in the BGI packages. Although I could be wrong....fingers crossed for the week though.

bacardi walla 22nd Aug 2006 07:23

....or block off enough seats down the back and position home. Maybe a crew will have positioned from Orlando to BGI to operate to GLA.

XSBaggage 22nd Aug 2006 10:32

Not CC myself, but was told by a friend in GSM long haul that there are duty restrictions which mean they can't position back to GLA on the same flight. Still, a week's layover on a "Low Cost" carrier? Weird.

Maybe they got a contract with a charter carrier to bring the crew back to GLA?

Or another more obvious one, they may announce another BGI service from another UK airport, each crew would stay only a few days.

XSB

Jet_stream 22nd Aug 2006 12:05

Could only position back after minimum rest, as rest onboard an a/c is not counted as rest.

However XSB you could very well be right about another BGI service from say STN or MAN....don't see it happening for this winter but if the route proves to be a succuss then im sure that would be a possibility.

Mr Gammon Flaps 22nd Aug 2006 13:37

Has anyone heard of any new routes being proposed from Manchester? It all appears to be happening up in Glasgow....

webby1919 22nd Aug 2006 14:15

Summer 07 Released
 
Gla-alc/bcn/pmi Daily
Edi-alc/bcn/pmi Daily

Most of the usual Routes are Due To Be Released This Week.

Jet_stream 22nd Aug 2006 15:05

I would imagine when the 3rd 767 arrives sometime in spring this might be used from both GLA and MAN or even STN.....not known yet but will be interesting to see what happens.

daz211 22nd Aug 2006 15:27

flyglobespan
 
someone must have insider news for GSM at stansted
I had heard that newyork was going to be as many a twice daily
from next summer ? come on just give us a clue !

bycrewlgw 22nd Aug 2006 17:05

I'm sure they'd be able to position straight away thought the rule was that you can have limited positioning before a flight (as long as it doesn't send you into discretion) but after the company can position you around the world? That right or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Plus MON used to (not sure if they still do) operate to Banjul then position back. The BGI flight would only be a few hours longer than that .

longarm 22nd Aug 2006 17:13

No reason why you can't position back after a flight (unless some local agreement doesn't allow it). Your max Flight duty period stops at on chocks. You can then be positioned regardless of the hours. The only proviso is that you then require a rest period as long as the preceeding duty period inc positioning.

heslop2006 22nd Aug 2006 17:22

GSM and the future
 
Taken from Wikipedia

" n June 2006 Flyglobespan announced plans to operate out of Aberdeen International Airport now that 24 hour airport operation there has been confirmed. The first route to operate from Aberdeen will be to Tenerife, commencing winter 2006. It has yet to announce further routes. Liverpool will also be added to the Flyglobespan network from November 2006, with flights to Tenerife and Prague. The airline will also operate Liverpool's first long haul flight, to New York (Newark), using Boeing 757-200 aircraft, daily from May 2007.
Flights to Toronto, Canada from Manchester are due to commence in November, with two of the three weekly flights operated by Zoom Airlines, in accordance with a new codeshare deal between the two airlines. Zoom flights from Toronto to Belfast, Cardiff, Glasgow, London Gatwick, London Stansted and Manchester are already available for booking on the Flyglobespan website, as well as Ottawa to London Gatwick. It will also commence three times a week service Manchester to Cape Town, South Africa on November 4, 2006. Both these Manchester services will be operated by a Boeing 767.
Flyglobespan will also launch Northern Ireland's first ever scheduled flights to Florida with a weekly service to Orlando Sanford from Belfast International Airport in November 2006.
Three further transatlantic flights from Glasgow have also been announced for 2007; to Barbados from January, Las Vegas from February and Boston, commencing in May of that year.
Flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport to Tenerife will launch in 2007.
In order to meet the expansion of the airline's network, a further used Boeing 767-300 and new Boeing 737-700 will be leased from the International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), while the airline's first Boeing 757 will also join the fleet for the Liverpool to Newark service. There are plans to lease a third 767, second 757 and a further two 737s.
Flyglobespan announced in August 2006 that it would also lease two Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner from the ILFC for ten years, to be delivered in March and November 2010. "

Jet_stream 23rd Aug 2006 18:32

Yes all this info is widely known, what was your point?


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