bloody nose
 

Seems FlyBe are sending a message to Blue Islands. You step on our toes (SOU) we'll step on yours with size 10 boots...... JS32 vs Dash8:mad:

Hi folks,

I flew JER-LCY last night.

Could someone please tell me the routing of the Bluebird Cargo 73F that I saw parked @ JER?

Cheers!

Bluebird 737 and Flybe
 

The Bluebird B737 is a day stop and operates a UPS contrat Monday to Friday.
It arrives from Rennes in France at 0700 every weekday and departs 1930ish
before and after Rennes it comes in from Germany which might be Cologne but no certain on that one.
In the local paper for Monday an article on Flybe stated they will reserrect the Charles Du Gaulle service in competition with the Blueislands Beauvais service? this could be due to Blueislands operating a service in competition on the Guernsey Southampton all be it a differant type of market meaning the bussiness type.:oh:
What next for Flybe they drop routes for a number of years and then want them back like the Luton and now the Paris.:ok:
Good news for the Island though, but will it attract more visitors? if so there is not many Hotels to put all these passengers on these new routes if they were all full. Interesting times ahead?:ok:

i find it hard to believe that flybe would launch a new route purely to spite another operator. Its a bit too expensive and risky for a real airline to do such a thing.

let's hope that flybe start using the 195 to do more charters and weekend sun trips. bit more suited to it than the 146 was.

easyjet are going to operate jersey-ltn - told to me today by handling agent dm for jer, cwl and brs. id now like to see them operate brs to jer and undercut flybe!

The future's bright; the future's orange ...
 

Confirmed today; Easyjet will operate to LPL from late March and to LTN on the 21st April, both daily. :D:ok:

Hopefully, this will grow over time, to add other routes, such as BRS (for Goldilocks!), STN, NCL, possibly even LGW; however, thankful for what we have to start with. Great news and hopefully more yet to come before the season starts!

The Easyjet routes are fantastic news. Jersey Airport and Economic Development have delivered one of the biggest announcements for years, which is terrific for the Island’s tourism industry and locals. The improved accessibility to Jersey from Luton and Liverpool provides the opportunity for tremendous growth, which is massively enhanced by Easyjet’s operation.

The summer schedules should be out soon. Hopefully there will be more good news to celebrate.

If only everyone was as negative as that we would have no chance of developing the tourism/aviation industry on the island and we'd be left with no hope!i'm personally pleased to see the route growth in jersey,it shows a pro-active attitude and a change of will to at least attract growth again in the islands,so what if certain airlines get subsidies ,its been happening all over the continent for years now and its the airports perogative to attract business that was not forthcoming,incentives to airlines has attracted much growth,just look at all those dead dodo airports in france!!finally we are dragging ourselves into the 21st century,which will only benefit the communtiy and island .............:D

Flybe have 2 new routes from Jersey for Summer 08, Aberdeen and Doncaster/Sheffield

People do not have to go to Jersey for their main summer holiday. Jersey is a good destinations for short/weekend breaks and for people visiting friends and family in either direction. Also, some people do not want to travel 3 to 4 hours for a holiday and a 1 hour flight to Jersey may be attractive. People's choice is not always down to price.

I think it's great news for JER and good on JG and those involved in reeling U2 in. There is considerable potential to grow; U2 has over 100 A319s on order (and another 88 on option), so let's be positive about the potential that exists; in due course, perhaps, U2 might even be tempted to consider basing 2 or 3 acft here, but that - if it ever becomes possible - is well down the road. JER has its foot in the U2 door and hopefully it will be a big success.

Incidentally, the U2 deal is for five years, so they won't be backing out that quickly!

Not everyone wants to go to Jersey for holidays. There are a lot of Beans (ex Jersey residents) who live and work in the North West. I will be a regular easyJet LPL-JER customer along with my Family and Friends (That includes you Mrs Briggs!!) coming the other direction. There was a lot of positive response at work to the route with People wanting to take family breaks there next Summer!

Oh do wake up Rex,jersey is an upcoming short break/spa hotel destination,the world is changing,funnily enough,not everyone wants to sit on a beach in the middle east waiting for the next allah call,or putting up with german tourists in canaries nicking your towels!! some people want quick access,comfort,quality and relaxing breaks too, jersey can offer this!!its called adapting to new markets....:ok::ok:
The subsidy issue is a new concept for the channel islands,i say again for all not hearing this has been going on in the continent for over 5years,fearmongering isn't going to change the fact that jersey has to move with the times and tout for business it is the way forward if you want the benefits of the marketing power of easyjet/radisson sas etc etc. these companies marketing power are huge and this is what will get people talking Jersey....
:ok:

Well said Lucy!!

"BMI were rumoured to have been given 3.5 mil every year (for 3 years) to fly to LHR twice a day. That is £5000 per return trip. Now I cant imagine that BA or FlyBe are getting anything like that to fly to LGW, in fact I would be surprised if they got any subsidy at all."


Given the fact that the Airport is in the middle of a supposed cost cutting exercise then it is highly unlikely that the States are giving subsidies like this. As previously suggested they are most likely giving reduced rate landing fees and assistance with advertising, anything else would leave them open to legal action and be against competition regulations.

As for the load factors on the gatwick route, don't be surprised if there are a few significant changes on that front, remember that BA now have a 15% stake in Flybe and are still looking at consolidation of bases and routes.........

Oa32 Wrong.:ugh:
The BA stake in Flybe ia for sale as soon as the eventual flotation on the stock market takes place. This was announced at the time of the BA Connect sale

The States have already admitted they are subsidising BMI in cash and will not divulge the figure.

RexBanner, you sound like you have particular issues with Jersey airport, rather than just the EasyJet thread?

Most of you enjoy your anonymity on this free site. It is right then that others who read and frequent it should be allowed the same courtesy. No matter what your personal views on them are.

By naming names as some of you have done in a few posts, that have now been deleted, you have broken PPRuNe rules.

Please do not do so again.

PPP

Handling of EZY JET
 

Who is going to handle Easy come easy go???? Will they have their own desk????

Handling of EZY JET
 

Hi Jerhippo

Servisair will be handling Easy when they start at the end of March.

Twenty minute turn arounds for the Airbus.

EZY
 

Wow!, are they going to have their own sales desk? I'm not sure it would work without it. At all their airports they have one.
I'm sure once they are in there the routes are going to expand and then a few airlines are probably going to pull out as the competition will be fierce.
Jersey seems to be getting it all the the moment jet2, easy jet , starbucks!!!! Whatever next??? Longhaul????

The Flybe summer schedule has now been released and there are a few developments.

Southend – additional Wednesday flight.
Bristol – Reduced from daily to 6x weekly (Dash will operate Southend instead).
Gatwick – Retains 6x weekday flights. 5x at weekend.
Newcastle – 4x weekly on Tu.Th.Sa.Su.

The 3rd based aircraft looks to be free on M.W.F., it operates to Newcastle on Tu./Th. between Gatwick flights. I suppose this is where Luton could have fitted in, but I don't know whether Flybe plan to utilise the free time now?

Doncaster and Aberdeen are still to be released. Other destinations are similar to previous years.

* Jersey to Doncaster/Sheffield
Flights operate Saturdays from 30th March 2008
Fares from £39.99 one way including taxes and charges

* Jersey to Aberdeen
Flights operates Saturdays from 30th March 2008
Fares from £49.99 one way including taxes and charges

Monkey,

Combination of that and the loss of two frames from the LGW fleet (1 x 300 and 1 x 500) from next summer.

U2 to JER
 

Had a quick look at the Easyjet site; no sign of LTN schedules, but LPL are as follows:

Weekdays:
LPL-JER 1615-1730/ RETURN 1800-1915

Sat
LPL-JER 1005-1120/ RETURN c.1150*

Sun
LPL-JER 1435-1550/ RETURN c.1620*

(Didn't bother checking the return schedule; just assuming a 30 min turnaround as for the weekday flights, but they won't be more than 5-10 mins out).

Best wishes to U2 and here's to more orange on the apron here!

Manx 2 to go Dornier 228
 

Manx 2 are acquireing two Dornier 228 aircraft which will be used throughout the airline's network.
From early next year the 19-seat aircraft will introduced on the Jersey service.:ok:

Luton
 

These are the LTN schedules for EZY:

EZY has just released its JER-LTN-JER schedule:

Monday to Friday:
LTN-JER (1245-1350)
JER-LTN (1420-1520)

Saturday:
LTN-JER (1055-1200)
JER-LTN (1230-1330)

Sunday:
LTN-JER (1125-1230)
JER-LTN (1300-1400)


(Just for the sake of completeness, Jet2's LBA schedule is as follows:

Saturday:
LBA-JER (1000-1115)
JER-LBA (1145-1300)

Tues, Thurs
LBA-JER (1415-1530)
JER-LBA (1600-1715)

Brought Forward
 

Who can answer this one?

Easyjet are selling the Luton-Jersey-Luton service as of the 30th March 2008 in the media it stated the start date will be the 21st April confused?

Have Easyjet brought the start date forward by three weeks or is this an error in the computer booking system?

With easter being the 6th to the 9th of April this could be a possibilty they route has been brought forward?:ok:

IDR

You are correct

Ian

Was looking at the wrong calender year.

Afterall it changes every year confuseing?

Norwich-JER in January 08?
 

Hi all,

I'm very confused about FlyBe's timetable between NWI and JER for the beginning of 2008 - it seems to have changed!

Apparently they're running flights on Mon/Wed/Fri from 10/12/07-4/1/08, 17/3/08-28/3/08 and 30/3/08-24/10/08. So what happened to the bit between 7 Jan and 14 March??

Confusingly, I have a booking on a NWI-JER flight on 7/1/08 and JER-NWI on 9/1/08 which, according to the "My Flight" section of the site still exists. Yet if I try to do an online booking for those dates, it says that no flights are available (and as I've never seen those flights full, I don't believe that it's down to them being booked up).

Is it just a finger-trouble job on the part of the Web site people, or are the trips I've booked on Jan 7th and 9th now phantom flights?

David C

I notice in tonight’s JEP that Flybe. has requested a license to operate between Jersey and Cardiff from March 1st...a new route to be announced then? Additional frequencies to Cardiff would be welcome for 2008 considering the loss of Thomsonfly and bmibaby reducing the route to twice weekly.

Also I see the application for Doncaster is effective from March 1st but it is not supposed to begin until May. The Aberdeen application is effective from May 1st so are there some changes proposed to the Doncaster flight?

Flybe to Cardiff
 

Where did this spring from Flybe wants to operate to Cardiff?
Would this meen they would pull off the Bristol, if so that could be another one for Easyjet to take on.
With Flybe haveing more movements into Cardiff than Bristol it could tie in.
We must wait and see what comes out of this.

Now confirmed...the Flybe Cardiff service is on sale at 3x weekly. From March 24 there are flights on a Monday and Friday with a Saturday flight added from May 24th. There is also an additional Wednesday Doncaster flight from May. The flights are operated using a Jersey based aircraft.

With todays AF purchase of VLM:

1 - Will they still have their summer Saturday operation
2 - Does this create an opportunity for JER-CDG using the daystopping VLM aircraft. Would enable worldwide connecting opportunities and an alternative to crowded LHR and LGW where long haul city destinations are lacking

Any thoughts from JER locals or anyone with more knowledge/insight than me?

VG to be merged into WX
 

Some interesting comments were made by Cityjet CEO, Geoffrey O'Byrne-White, about the AF takeover of VLM. AF also owns VG and the Cityjet CEO is in charge of the integration of the two carriers, since AF also owns WX.

O'Byrne-White is in charge of the integration with VLM and said it offered a "great opportunity" for CityJet to expand. The two will operate as separate brands initially but CityJet is likely to subsume VLM over time, boosting its position as a regional player. (Quote from Irish Times)

I wonder what effect this is going to have on fleet planning; Cityjet has recently started taking delivery of RJ85s, but AF/KL have ordered Embraers; VLM's F50s will have to be replaced at some stage. There are some interesting challenges and opportunities for JER out of all this, not least of course, the prized JER-CDG.

What next
 

Akersoid
Could this be a possibility.
Cityjet replace the VLM London City-Jersey-London City with an RJ85 and operate London City-Jersey-Charles Du Gaulle-Jersey-London City?
Not a bad idea?:ok:

CWL with Flybe
 

BE has announced the launch of a 3w summer service to Cardiff, but note the comment in this extract from the BE statement:

Another brand new flybe route from jersey for summer 2008

10 January 2008

Low cost airline reinstates Jersey’s Welsh connection

"Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline, has announced a further expansion of its summer service out of Jersey with a three times weekly route to Cardiff in a move that reflects its commitment to enhancing its Island service as well as re-instating the Island’s Welsh connection.

The new service operates Mondays and Fridays effective March 17 as well as on Saturdays between May 24 – September 27. Flights are available now for booking in time for travel over Easter with lead in fares from £29.99 one way including taxes and charges.

This latest announcement will provide even more choice for reliable, low-cost services from Jersey. The addition of this route follows hot on the heels of Flybe’s announcement of an enhanced summer route network from Jersey that now includes Edinburgh, Glasgow and Newcastle as well as Paris. "

Did I miss something? When did they announce Paris? When does it start etc?

I too noticed the reference to Paris in the press release. I think it is a slight error and should instead read an "enhanced summer route network from Cardiff" as these routes are to be operated from Cardiff for the summer season. The Cardiff route has been on sale for a while now so it is good to see it get some publicity at last.

Also looks like the Swiss International Zurich charter returns for the summer. Operating ZRH-NQY-JER-ZRH on Saturdays from May to September. Maston returns as well with a VLM charter.

I was wondering the other day about the history of the air services from JER and GCI to the airports on the French coast. If I have not missed a service, these are now down to Guernsey-Dinard on Aurigny and Jersey-Cherbourg-(Paris) on Twin Jet (is there any local travel on those Cherbourg flights?)

Dinard seems to be the only airport that has enjoyed some lasting success at least from GCI. I remember that Aurigny a while back also (or instead?) served St. Brieuc, and in the very early days of Aurigny there were flights to Granville as well (at least that is what I read somewhere). Other reasonably close by airports in France, although already at some distance for a Trislander, are Rennes, Lannion or Caen - have there been flights to those as well in the past? Have there ever been direct flight from ACI to France?

How in general are these shorts hops doing - are they more a tourist or used by local residents? I guess in times of fast ferries JER is a more difficult market than GCI for those flights locaionwise, while GCI simply lacks the population for decent demand?