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Old 24th May 2006, 19:12
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Great news if the JER-CDG route goes ahead.

Presumably given BE's past (present?) relationship with AF, they will time their flights to feed into the Air France's intercontinental departures?

There are more intercontinental destinations from CDG with AF than there are with BA from LHR.

At last, a break from that %&$!££! coach from LGW-LHR.
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Old 26th May 2006, 14:19
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Zurich Route

Wouldn't it make sense for VLM to use the Fokker 50 on a Mon to Fri service to Zurich as they have an aircraft sitting at Jersey airport for most of the day.
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Angel Blueislands 3 Jetstream

Blueislands third Jetstream arrived in the Channel Islands this morning.

The aircraft positioned over the pond via Prestwick and arrived in Guernsey at 0825utc this morning.

The reason for going to Guernsey is for Import paper work when completed the aircraft will position to Biggin Hill as per the first two.

The aircraft will be there for approx 5 weeks for radio work as the first two before the aircraft will arrive in Jersey for its last checks and airworthyness approval.

The aircraft was lucky to arrive in Guernsey as thirty minutes before Guernsey was in fog and below landing minima.

I understand that the registration G-ISLD has been reserved for this aircraft.

From information picked up by the end of the month the Jetstreams will be operating there charter programe at week ends mean other U.K. visits by these aircraft.

Good luck to them with this ambitios challange.
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 15:47
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Anymore info on the flybe CDG service,will it be q400 or 146?how many times a day?
Good to see sensible routes being annouced into europe at last..........
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 10:12
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Angel Atlantic Express

I think the Island is now very luck to have the Stansted route back into/out of the island. This route is connecting islanders to 150 destinations from Reykjavik to Malaga, from Budapest to New York!
There is such a variety thanks to our low cost friends Ryanair & easyJet.
I think Atlantic Express are using a good aircraft for the route as Aurigny's S340 just didn't suit the route.
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Old 17th Jul 2006, 22:42
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Heard they'd shipped the ATR back up North and were doing flights with the flying cigar?? Good luck to them anyway- just don't stand up inside.
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 08:20
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Angel Jersey and the ATR

fredtheanorak and Atlantic

One ATR 42 is based Jersey, normally it is G-DRFC

The only time we have had a differant aircraft to operate the Stansted was over the world cup period when an Highlands Jetstream was based in Jersey for a little over a weekor so.

The story of the ATR moving back north looks like it has been misunderstood.

The Metro was due to come to Jersey a couple of weeks ago to operate a weekend charter to St Nazaire, due to unservicabilty of this aircraft, Jersey had a second ATR and after the charter i understand it went to Guernsey for a check of some kind and fitted well into the charter.

Things do get twisted as they pass through rumour control and sometimes people get it wrong big time.
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 15:50
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Jersey comings

Thanks GB53 always happy to stand corrected by a superior force. Did they have a problem getting Stanstead slots or were they able to pick-up the old GR ones?
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 18:59
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fredtheanorak.

I donot think it would have been the slots that Aurigny gave up as there was a long period of time between Aurigny giving uo and Atlantic starting.

The Aurigny flights were at differant times as well.

When Air UK operated the route it took a little time to start to see good returns but the route was starting to show good figures before the company did some restructing and dropped the same thing with Aurigny as the aircraft and crew were based in Guernsey.
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Bear in mind when air uk did the STN service there was not the amount of flights from stansted that there are today so i'm sure if the fares are right it has great potential as a route for Atlantic.
The schedule times are good too,although air uk where carrying low pax numbers throughout the winter,maybe they just pitched the fares too high at the time.
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 16:34
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For anyone that is interested, in tonight's JEP (24th July) there is a Flybe. supplement that states that talks are on-going with regards to the new Paris CDG route, however, Flybe. is optimistic that flights will begin in October with an announcement expected within the next few weeks. The flights will be from Jersey and Guernsey, 1x Daily, 6x Weekly. Further southern routes were hinted at as well for the future.

Looking at the Flybe. timetable my reckoning is that the service will be flown with the Guernsey based DH4. The winter timetable shows that the mid-morning Southampton flight switches from the GCI based Dash to an SOU based one, hence freeing up a period of 6 hours when the aircraft is free to fly to CDG.

All good news!
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 17:33
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Certainly, good and welcome news, but I'd be a lot happier if BE were to go the whole way and offer through check in (and fares) with Froggy-Baby to various worldwide destinations; the real importance of the new CDG route is that it gives JER intercontinental travellers the opportunity to interline directly onto worldwide routes without having to go via LGW/LHR and that awful coach service. Although it's outside their current operating method, the transiting/connecting pax could provide sufficient extra traffic to sustain the flights and build frequency - why throw that business away?

Don't they still have interline agreements with CO,VS etc. via LGW anyway?
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 17:53
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WW5249/50 27th July

Hi guys, don't post much on here but has anyone noticed that today's EMA-JER-EMA flt arrived and departed via BHX. Thought maybe it'd be something up with teletext, but it all ties in with the live flight information on baby's website.

Anyone have any news on why?
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 19:13
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I can't help with the reason other than the Jersey is usually the CDG-EMA
aircraft which was showing 5 hours late when I looked at midday.

The BHX based fleet have a couple of long turnaround times built in and it
is usually fairly easy to pull the BHX-NOC aircraft to cover any Mid-morning delays elsewhere (it has happened at least once this summer).

It usually involves delaying the Knock by 30-60 minutes waiting for the
PMI-BHX to come in. The Palma flight normally does the mid afternoon
Amsterdam and they can normally get the flights fairly well back on
sched by late afternoon. However the Knock is mainly a 733 and the Palma a 735 and if loads
are 131+ on the Knock it does not work.

It did not work in this instance if you check the Knock to BHX flight, as
it is about 3 hours late

At least the East Mids - Jersey pax didn't have to wait until the
Paris returned. I don't think I would have been too pleased if I was
on the BHX-NOC though.
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 20:42
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Akerosid,
I don't believe that Flybe has any interlining agreements still in existence. There is still a code-share agreement with Continental at Belfast, Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Manchester for flights to Newark, which is of little help to Channel Islanders.

I understand what you are saying about the lack of any inter-lining agreement with other airlines at CDG, specifically Air France, and it is somewhat inconvenient; the result of this will be that the majority of connecting traffic will still operate through London for British Airways flights or for other airlines. But Flybe will still be offering the islands' only service to a major international hub (Gatwick is limited in its choice of destinations) which is a whole lot more convenient than the bus or taxi from Gatwick to Heathrow. It is not perfect but I still think that there will be considerable connecting traffic using Flybe’s CDG service for this reason alone.

The tourist market is going to help sustain the flights as well, both from the islands to Paris and vise versa. Jersey Tourism does concentrate heavily on the French market, as does Guernsey, so the new route should be of benefit. Interestingly, I do wonder what the effect of the new CDG flight will have on the small Twin Jet operation to Orly. I’d imagine that this is primarily is a business niche route (looking at the prices) that Flybe will possibly undermine being a much cheaper and better marketed airline in comparison?
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Return of the F27

Atlantic Airlines has applied to the CAA to wet lease five Ming Airlines Fokker 27s TC-MBA to TC-MBE.

This is due the late arrival of more ATPs.

Will we see them replace the Farnair ATR42?? which operate the mail flights from Coventry to Jersey and Guernsey.

Some of you will remeber two of these F27s TC-MBA is ex G-CEXE and TC-MBB is ex G-CEXF the ex Channel Express ones coming back to haunt the Channel Islands??

The application is for at least a year.

Who knows the Fokker 27 will be around for a year or two yet and every one looks forward to see differant operators aroud,
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Old 29th Aug 2006, 16:21
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Flybe EMB195

One of Flybes EMB195s should be in Jersey on September 15th.

The aircraft is booked into Jersey for handling trials and any other airport user to see the aircraft.

Only a week late for the Air Display what a shame as it could have been a star with the Arrows??

Could have been a good promotion oppertunity to have some air to air shoots but it is Flybes loss???

This is another big step for the company compared to twenty five years ago with Islands,Twin Otters and the little Bandi.
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Old 14th Sep 2006, 08:09
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Jer-cdg

Does anyone have any news on Flybe's proposed Jersey to Paris CDG route.
Is it going ahead? When from? Times?
Seems to have gone very quiet.
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Old 14th Sep 2006, 19:49
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Where does Jersey go after the loss of bmibaby flights to Durham Tees Valley? A big shock there; the summer flights have been a relative success and are popular with holiday-makers especially. It is definitely a route Jersey cannot afford to lose if they want to help revive tourism.

What other possibilities are there? Flybe could possibly restore regular flights to Newcastle again? Is Thomsonfly to Durham a possibility?

Just when there was a bit of optimism over the future of air services we get a blow like this. Hopefully the new Airport Director will be proactive in helping to restore frequent flights to the North East.
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I would not be too surprised to see WW go BHX-JER if BHX get 2 new
based aircraft (not so sure if they get one), as it is a quick gap
filler if they want 8 sectors in a day.

Flybe have not really done much on the route other than re-direct
the early morning BHX - EDI for 8 weeks during the summer. Also
in the past it used to be 146's and I think it is now mainly Dash 8's.
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