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cobopete 17th Dec 2015 19:29

Tri flight
 
Hi Skippness
Impossible to say now. I think the best bet would be get yourself to GCI, via ACI if poss then have a chat with the guy on the ticket desk. Things are changing quite quickly at the mo with the arrival of the NG, but which needs painting and pilot training. A time watching flight radar 24 could help and booking engine may well be of benefit. The flights to be flown by chartered ac are identified as flown by Grupo 7 ( 2 of the3 Dorniers) but I don't know if this is reliable. Good luck....please post a photo or 2 if you have success!
Pete

Hermite 18th Dec 2015 07:38

I don't think that any of the Dorniers are chartered - all are owned by Aurigny and are now operated under their AOC.

cobopete 18th Dec 2015 15:41

Norwich Route
 
Summer Saturday service to Norwich, replacing Loganair Sunday service announced on AUR Facebook page this afternoon.

Dep GCI 0730
Dep NWI 0905

Hermite..........
Re above post, Some flights from end Dec are noted as to be flown by Aero VIP (I think this is the same company as Groupo 7) and hence a leased Dornier....but may just be because they haven't got round to changing it,but if looking to ride on a Tri, I would certainly avoid these.
Pete

cobopete 15th Jan 2016 19:59

punctuality
 
Figures released by London Gatwick place Aurigny as the most punctual of the39 airlines serving the airport. Subtle changes to the flight durations have worked!
Pete

Feet on ground 16th Jan 2016 07:29

Subtle Changes
 
What subtle changes to the flight durations have helped the LGW departure punctuality?

GCILover 16th Jan 2016 08:54

Looking at their summer schedule, some of their flights have an hours flying time on the outbound and an hour and 15 mins on the return. It's not rocket science to figure out how they will be seen as being on time.


I believe that they class being "on time" as arriving within 15 minutes of the scheduled arrival time

kcockayne 16th Jan 2016 09:01

Yes, the longer that you list the journey as taking, the more likely that it will arrive/depart "on time" ! Am I just cynical, or are we all just being taken as idiots by the airlines (not just AUR) ?

Feet on ground 16th Jan 2016 11:21

and the measure is on the departure time from Gatwick - not arrival, so the block time on the flight ex Gatwick is irrelevant.

Airlines in general are increasing block times because: A) there is growing congestion on the ground - so longer taxiing times b) there is more congestion in the air - so longer flying times c) EU261 requires carriers to pay compensation for late arrivals even when causes are outside of their reasonable economic control. So if a 15 minute longer published flying time means passengers arrive on a late flight less than three hours after scheduled arrival time, there is a huge saving for the carrier. So if you are a carrier that doesn't have a particularly high utilisation programme, you might as well make your scheduled times as long as you can. One of the effects of this ludicrous piece of legislation!

willy wombat 16th Jan 2016 14:41

Building on the point above, in the 1960s Gatwick Glasgow and vv was scheduled at 1 hour 10 mins on a BUA BAC 1-11. Now Easy and BA have to schedule it at 1 hr 30 mins due ground and air congestion. So I don't think Aurigny are putting one over on their customers - they are accepting reality.

kcockayne 16th Jan 2016 15:04

Fair points. But, it does tend to mean that any plaudits for being "on time" are a little disingenuous, don't you think ?

virginblue 16th Jan 2016 15:22

Ever wondered why Ryanair is so on-time despite their short-turnaround? Their scheduled flight times sometimes suggests the flight being operated by a turboprop and not on a 737. For example, they schedule 1h25m for STN-CGN, Eurowings for the same flight 1h10m.

cobopete 16th Jan 2016 15:30

Punctuality
 
Kcockayne - Maybe, but I suppose it's the same for everyone and Aurigny have kept to the published times while others haven't managed to, so they deserve some credit!
PS The original post has sparked a good debate and I've learnt a few new things...thanx everyone.
Pete

kcockayne 16th Jan 2016 16:13

Well, Pete, they've done better than everyone else (at Gatwick), so I suppose we can congratulate them to some degree.

Musket90 16th Jan 2016 18:56

Maybe part of the reason is they don't base aircraft at Gatwick so don't incur a delay on the first flight out which, if happens, has a knock on effect for the rest of that based aircraft schedules.

cobopete 16th Jan 2016 19:59

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Good point well mad, the 0700 departure from GCI often has to queue behind 2 cows and a tractor not!

Matt7504 18th Jan 2016 11:33

Aurigny to stop operating Guernsey to Jersey flights | Channel - ITV News
Just going to leave this here....

Hermite 18th Jan 2016 16:22

This latest development seems to have been a change of plan. The Aurigny booking site has until today indicated flights to/from Jersey at different times to the Blue Island flights, supposedly by Dornier from reports of the seating configuration (these are all now showing as sold out). I wonder if flybe have somehow put a spanner into the works now that BI will be operating as a franchisee.

Jerbourg 18th Jan 2016 16:24

The previously mentioned GR operated Dornier inter island flights are now showing as full, in preparation for total removal I expect.

wakeup 18th Jan 2016 18:07

Looks like aurigny is throwing it's toys out of their pram. If this is how they react to competition, and with our states there to cover their behinds they are only going to go one way. They will either go under or be a permanent drain on our purses.

kcockayne 18th Jan 2016 18:24

Keep an eye on your purse !


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