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<<For the people who thought Now Airlines would never get off the ground in the forum, I have my start date with NOW and have accepted>>
None of which guarantees it will get off the ground.
None of which guarantees it will get off the ground.
tailscrape - Thats very humble to acknowledge that you are not and never will be an easy employee.
Such lack of hubris is startling.
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Such lack of hubris is startling.
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At least the comments are funny and not insulting. Will this thread actually say anything of substance? At least the mood has lightened to funny comments and not rude throw away remarks.
Looking forward to getting going at Now Airlines. Have met many people at the private party recently, lovely enthusiastic people. Had a little chin wag with the CEO. He seems so nice and a realist. He knows what all the cynics say about Now. He was reassuring to talk to. I am looking forward to working for him at Now.
Looking forward to getting going at Now Airlines. Have met many people at the private party recently, lovely enthusiastic people. Had a little chin wag with the CEO. He seems so nice and a realist. He knows what all the cynics say about Now. He was reassuring to talk to. I am looking forward to working for him at Now.
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type rating start date
I have a start date as well because I have the type rating but I d like to know if the guys with no type rating have received a formal date to start the course.
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Thank you 4Screwaircrew: Why dont half these people believe it is actually up and running yet? Why is Jmc-man so anti? Is it because he's been rejected at the interview stage with NOW? Why can't he say something new? It's always the same old thing.
I thought this thread was getting back to discussion and not throw away remarks. Well it was until jmc-man returned. Maybe stay away? jmc-man, you have no interest in joining NOW, so why not go and discuss jmc, or Thomas Cook, or Flying Colours, or Airworld, or Caledonian, I wonder if a company with so many different names in the past just jumped at the chance to employ jmc-man with all his different weird identities.
I thought this thread was getting back to discussion and not throw away remarks. Well it was until jmc-man returned. Maybe stay away? jmc-man, you have no interest in joining NOW, so why not go and discuss jmc, or Thomas Cook, or Flying Colours, or Airworld, or Caledonian, I wonder if a company with so many different names in the past just jumped at the chance to employ jmc-man with all his different weird identities.
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FLYMATE,
getting personal again.
The subject of this thread is NOW start date ( first post on July 9th).
And here we are on September 4th, and we still have no start date. My posts are on topic.
Glad to see there are now contracts, which at least means someone is now putting their money where their mouth is.
It would be nice (for the travelling public, as well as everyone else in the industry) to see a START DATE, as in a date where everyone commits to produce an aircraft full of passengers and fly them somewhere.
It would be nice if whoever is signing the cheques for the simulator trainign ( I know it's not on credit), might spend a bob or two to update the website with some useful information, like the names of the board ( apart from the interim board members) , the date when bookings might commence, the places where passengers might like to consider going...you know, all the good stuff that makes an airline WORK!.
If all you have to contribute is personal attacks on me, why not save bandwith and send them by private message.
In the meantime...
getting personal again.
The subject of this thread is NOW start date ( first post on July 9th).
And here we are on September 4th, and we still have no start date. My posts are on topic.
Glad to see there are now contracts, which at least means someone is now putting their money where their mouth is.
It would be nice (for the travelling public, as well as everyone else in the industry) to see a START DATE, as in a date where everyone commits to produce an aircraft full of passengers and fly them somewhere.
It would be nice if whoever is signing the cheques for the simulator trainign ( I know it's not on credit), might spend a bob or two to update the website with some useful information, like the names of the board ( apart from the interim board members) , the date when bookings might commence, the places where passengers might like to consider going...you know, all the good stuff that makes an airline WORK!.
If all you have to contribute is personal attacks on me, why not save bandwith and send them by private message.
In the meantime...
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I see the lack of whimsical start date projections on the website in a different light. They seem more in tune with the way the guys and gals in Halcyon House seem to operate, openly and honestly. Why give people a date that can't possibly be assured and then update it only to delay it further. The start date cannot be assured for reasons outside of anyone's control such as AOC applications, availability of aircraft, maintenence and crews as well as the financial machine being in place. When these things are fully under control (I understand the AOC is the last one) I am sure a realistic start date will be announced.
From the sounds of it the financial machine is in place, as crews have started training and contracts have been delivered. It was made very clear that until such a time as it was, these things would not be forthcoming, so yet another fact to back up this theory. Being someone with both a start date and contract in hand, I am confident this project will get off the ground (pun intended). I also know I am not the only one to have these things too.
It cannot be denied that there is a chance for this venture to fail and that fixed price ticketing may not work, but surely every venture has to be tried. Fixed pricing is quite obviously not the only ticketing route to follow, so I dare say that should it not work, the fare structure will change.
jmc man - apologies for the accusations but your barage of attacks on the only really exciting proposition to happen to our industry for a while was wearing somewhat thin, especially as you were ignoring the fact that several posts had informed of their contract arrival and start date projection. I am pleased to see your recognition of these facts now. I hope your monicer doesn't change to NOW-man!
Here's to NOW starting operations when anticipated and it providing the working climate that seems will prevail and hopefully start a new trend in the aviation industry. I am going to do my best to ensure that it does and will.
From the sounds of it the financial machine is in place, as crews have started training and contracts have been delivered. It was made very clear that until such a time as it was, these things would not be forthcoming, so yet another fact to back up this theory. Being someone with both a start date and contract in hand, I am confident this project will get off the ground (pun intended). I also know I am not the only one to have these things too.
It cannot be denied that there is a chance for this venture to fail and that fixed price ticketing may not work, but surely every venture has to be tried. Fixed pricing is quite obviously not the only ticketing route to follow, so I dare say that should it not work, the fare structure will change.
jmc man - apologies for the accusations but your barage of attacks on the only really exciting proposition to happen to our industry for a while was wearing somewhat thin, especially as you were ignoring the fact that several posts had informed of their contract arrival and start date projection. I am pleased to see your recognition of these facts now. I hope your monicer doesn't change to NOW-man!
Here's to NOW starting operations when anticipated and it providing the working climate that seems will prevail and hopefully start a new trend in the aviation industry. I am going to do my best to ensure that it does and will.
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Tailscrape (and JMC man),
Why did you bother going for an interview with Now? I presume you and jmc man are old mates from your previous airline? It's hard to understand why you are both so negative about a start up that may well give employment to some of your fellow pilots. Easyjet put back their start date several times as have most new start ups. Give it a rest you're getting boring.
Why did you bother going for an interview with Now? I presume you and jmc man are old mates from your previous airline? It's hard to understand why you are both so negative about a start up that may well give employment to some of your fellow pilots. Easyjet put back their start date several times as have most new start ups. Give it a rest you're getting boring.
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I too have a contract, and start date. The folks at Now are well ahead of the game they are keeping things close to their chest, but then who wouldn't.
JMC - MAN you are full of mis information and suggest you get your facts sorted before posting such nonsense in a public forum. We all know you have a total dislike for the COO and love to put him down in almost all your posts. Let me tell you he has assembled a flight ops team who are second to none, including him. I also heard rumours about him, but having listened to both sides of the story and seen his management style and witnessed his enormous depth of knowledge of the industry, have to say he is a very professional individual. The rest of the team are very genuine nice people with one goal in mind, to succeed.
Now are going places.
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JMC - MAN you are full of mis information and suggest you get your facts sorted before posting such nonsense in a public forum. We all know you have a total dislike for the COO and love to put him down in almost all your posts. Let me tell you he has assembled a flight ops team who are second to none, including him. I also heard rumours about him, but having listened to both sides of the story and seen his management style and witnessed his enormous depth of knowledge of the industry, have to say he is a very professional individual. The rest of the team are very genuine nice people with one goal in mind, to succeed.
Now are going places.
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HackneyedHarry,
still getting personal....I never applied for NOW, thanks.
The last project that had such a high profile, lots of press, flashy website, high profile directors and advisors was called Blue Fox.
I and some good friends almost got seriously burned on that one.
So I'm just putting my view to warn others not to believe hype, but look for the things which make an airline real.
Interesting that there is a connection between Blue Fox and NOW eh?
Ttree Trimmer
ALl of the things you mentio have to be developing in tandem. Assuming the AOC has been applied for, then there must be a proposed start date. If you have a proposed start date, you need to ensure you have passengers, hence a reservations system, to put in place a reservations system and start taking money, you need the finance in place.
As lots of people mention GO in the context of Now, lets look at them Reservation system opened in February, AOC applied for at same time, First flight fixed for 6th May, so everyone knew the dealines to work towards to get up and running......and the flew on May 6th.
Underlying all this is the financial backing. When NOW have the financial clout they need, I assume these things will start to happen. But every delay pushes them further and further in the worst part of the year to start an airline. They will soon be better off delaying until the Spring, sometime before Easter.
still getting personal....I never applied for NOW, thanks.
The last project that had such a high profile, lots of press, flashy website, high profile directors and advisors was called Blue Fox.
I and some good friends almost got seriously burned on that one.
So I'm just putting my view to warn others not to believe hype, but look for the things which make an airline real.
Interesting that there is a connection between Blue Fox and NOW eh?
Ttree Trimmer
ALl of the things you mentio have to be developing in tandem. Assuming the AOC has been applied for, then there must be a proposed start date. If you have a proposed start date, you need to ensure you have passengers, hence a reservations system, to put in place a reservations system and start taking money, you need the finance in place.
As lots of people mention GO in the context of Now, lets look at them Reservation system opened in February, AOC applied for at same time, First flight fixed for 6th May, so everyone knew the dealines to work towards to get up and running......and the flew on May 6th.
Underlying all this is the financial backing. When NOW have the financial clout they need, I assume these things will start to happen. But every delay pushes them further and further in the worst part of the year to start an airline. They will soon be better off delaying until the Spring, sometime before Easter.
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JMC-man,
Sorry, the interview thing was directed at Tailscrape as he has said he went for the interview. It's hard not to get personal when you are on the constant attack but I'm interested in what happened to you at Blue Fox. Did you resign from your job to join Blue Fox? Do you think 9/11 had anything to do with Blue Fox's demise as it did with Newlines?
If you give us the full low down, rather than the constant, seemingly baseless snipes, then you might appear less antagonistic.
Sorry, the interview thing was directed at Tailscrape as he has said he went for the interview. It's hard not to get personal when you are on the constant attack but I'm interested in what happened to you at Blue Fox. Did you resign from your job to join Blue Fox? Do you think 9/11 had anything to do with Blue Fox's demise as it did with Newlines?
If you give us the full low down, rather than the constant, seemingly baseless snipes, then you might appear less antagonistic.
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Finally, the personal attacks will finish. I know I am tired of reading the same old thing from jmc-man and his cynical pals. Me thinks they are probably either all the same person, or regularly prepare amongst themselves what they are going to say, coming across coherent. I have to say, I suspected some other motive for their comments...I am glad though that the enthusiasm of us at NOW has prevailed over cynicism...Tailscrape, your apology is accepted, jmc-man still harps on about the same old thing so far, yarpy, good luck on your courses, TtreeTrimmer hope to see you online some time soon...Imagine if the same amount of energy expounded here went into jmc-man's career, he would be higher up the corporate ladder than he seems to be...