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Old 15th Jun 2003, 04:23
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Unhappy More resignations at easyJet...

Two Regional Flight Managers resigned yesterday...including one who was the 'original' company man.

This on top of a £300,000 bill for the sub-chartering last weekend, lines being dropped over the next months as there aren't enough crews, 300 (yes 300) cabin crew short in the London area, some routes being permanently sub-ed out over the summer at the behest of the CAA who are now SERIOUSLY concerned, and all this during June - August when the serious money is supposed to be being made.

The chief pilot has lost his medical - again - and been told not to bother coming back; although he wants to collect his share of the £10Million.

I am seriously wondering now, beyond all the usual hyperbole and naysaying, whether easyJet will survive thie year.

It also has to be asked - Do these two know something everyone else doesn't?

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Bollocks!

I am sorry but I think you are full of it.

Evidence please.
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You want evidence?

1) You are providing the typical sort of head-in-the-sand evidence of easyJet management not haveing a clue that the airline is falling apart around them.

2) FB, RFM STN announced his resignation Friday, he is off to Now at Luton

3) AL, RFM LGW also announced his resignation Friday - don't know where he is going.

4) As per the memo from JP, MK is off sick again having lost his medical. JP is now CP. He is hardly likely to mention "don't come back" on his memo is he?

5) £300,000 bill - I've seen the invoices

6) NC, from NMC gave me the cabin crew figure, also confirmed by JP new rostering bloke

7) CAA - spoke to one of the eJ Flt Ops Ins about another matter - illegal crewing as it happens - mentioned the serious concern.

Enough evidence NG?

Remove head from sand, and realise the situation is now serious - company threateningly serious - and the muppets in Laa-Laa land don't even realise it.
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Have to agree with you Crappy_modem, have seen some of the evidence. Flights being offloaded, when 6 EZY A/C were sitting on the ground all night, unable to be crewed.
As for today, there is a Transavia B753 operating 4 sectors.
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Whats a regional flight manager? air crew or airport orientated?
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Regional Flight Managers are senior Captains, in charge of usually 2 or 3 bases, with a base Captain beneath them. e.g. AL covered LGW & LTN, FB STN, NCL, BRS.
The point being these aren't just some hacked off F/Os, but senior guys who will know far more what's going on than guys on the line.
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See above.
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From the local free newspaper

Glam-grans take to the skies

GLAMOROUS grans could be jetting off to a new career to dispel the stereotype 'trolley dolly' image of flight attendants.

Luton-based budget airline EasyJet has teamed up with Help The Aged in a project designed to prove that cabin crew should be employed for their ability rather than their looks.

The recruitment campaign launched last weekend is aimed at attracting 'more mature' staff, with positions open to men and women up to the age of 60.

And EasyJet spokesman said: "We want cabin crew that passengers can relate to and respect. The more mature person has so much more to offer in terms of life skills such as communication and team working abilities. They usually command
more respect too.

"Providing they are young at heart, we don't care how old they are.

"The job of a flight attendant is often perceived as glamorous and prestigious and certainly a sense of adventure is needed, but often the responsibilities, professionalism, dedication and energy that is required are not appreciated."

Help The Aged thinks it is a great idea.

Spokeswoman Liz Duncan said: "Cabin crew people need 'people' skills and authority, qualities that are enhanced by greater life experience."

Launching the campaign, EasyJet paraded attractive 49-year-old cabin crew trainer Pauline Mors – rather than an ageing, arthritic pensioner sporting an orange T-shirt and false teeth, like in our mocked up picture on the right.
Cabin crew recruitment ads with an upper age limit of 60 have now appeared in some women's magazines.
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Shareholders???

Who's atually in-charge in Easyjet???Who answers to the shareholders and no wonder they are needing soooo maney cabin crew in London,have you seen the starting pay????Very bad. xxM.
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....nobody's in charge!

Heard the other day that STN and BRS have threatened to revoke easyJet's slots if their on-time performance does not improve - a very serious state of affairs indeed!

EasyJet succeeded in wiping GO off the face of the earth, and now they are hell-bent on doing it to themselves - at this rate it won't take too long!

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People laughed a few months ago when I predicted shares to slump to below £2.00, they have gone below and the City does forecast a further slump in share prices.
Senior management at eJ does not give a crap about any of us as long as they get their year-end bonuses and their share options. People at sleazyland have no clue how to run an airline succesfully.
Andy will be missed and I wish him luck in his new venture. At least Jim has more respect with the crews than MK did. Good riddance I say.

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Perhaps easyJet wouldn't have such a shortage of crew if their interviews involved sensible intelligence tests rather than getting people to balance small nails on top of a larger one! What is that all about? Also, rejecting people who are hardworking, reliable, honest and have no problem with the written paper is probably not the best way to fill the vacancies. No, this isn't sour grapes, it wasn't me who went for the interview. I just don't think, if the company's in as much trouble as you all seem to think, that the cabin crew recruitment department are doing a very good job at keeping the rest of you in secure employment.
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Old 16th Jun 2003, 02:30
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Transavia flying for Easy mmmmmmmmmmmm? I would assume at a very high price tag....where is the "low cost" in that?
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Talking easy wet leasing?

if easyjet are paying other airlines to fly their routes, then why don't they give Ryanair a ring? aren't they Number One for punctuality at the moment? for a small charge (!) ryanair could get some of easyjets flights on schedule!
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I'd give it 6 months. Tops. This really is turning into Air Europe Mark II. (Yes, and I was there before anyone starts AGAIN!)
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When Stelios set up EJ he told the original guy's that he would make it a household name and then take his money out and go and do other things.

Once the men in grey suits start running an airline that always needed the guidance of someone like Stelios or MOL then the writing is on the wall. I was going to give it five years after Stelios's departure, after what I've read above I'll give it five months!

As for MK? To see that gentleman removed from British aviation is one of the best bits of news I could ever have had. Good riddance indeed. Out of interest anyone know what he lost his medical over, mind you it must be hard to fly with a steak through your heart!!


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Why all the fretting? Surely if Easy go under it's got to be a good thing?
Pax won't be tempted by their BS prices (normally ending up paying proper prices to a joke airline), jobs in the REAL airline industry will be more secure, pax will get better service; and the big smug arrogant smile will be wiped off poxyJet's face.
Looking forward to it already. Didn't know you were in so much poo.
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Old 16th Jun 2003, 06:50
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Last post seems a bit harsh really. To wish misfortune on so many people seems a bit too cold to me.

However, I am very interested to note that senior pilots are jumping ship to join NOW at Luton. I was getting seriously cold feet surrounding them, but fell slightly relieved to hear that they are tempting senior people.

That is as long as the senior people don't bring the orange in your face BS philosophy......
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I was about to join easyjet up until I read this post, can I ask what is the starting salary for Cabin Crew, and they say an average of £800 a month, thats very low, is that true.

Are things really that bad, or is this just the old rumor mill kicking off again?
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Old 16th Jun 2003, 08:14
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Unfortuneately the evidence has failed to materialise.

Question:

Was there one or two RFM's that have resigned?


I think there is an important difference. One was ex-GO and the other by all accounts has not left.

Things are not as bad as you would like us to believe however I am sure you are not helping.

NG
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