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I am getting very right wing as I get older I am sad to say! Along with Mr Bush, Mr Blair and most reporters, I would like to put all those small-minded folk who spread such damaging rumours up against a wall and shoot them. Oh! I left out all those little P***** who write computer viruses.
Feel better now off to work I am pleased to report!
Feel better now off to work I am pleased to report!
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I must be getting more right wing also. That's another one of your posts that I agree with.
I find it somewhat ironic that MYT (a wholly British company) gets slated in the good old British press for poor financial results. Why is it that the same negative press is not directed towards our German owned competitors, World of Hueey (sorry TUI) and Thomas Cook (C&N) when they post pretty poor financials?
Well here's something for the sh1te hounds of the British press to dwell on. MYT is a bl@@dy good company to work for. Some of the best people in the industry (flight & ground) rely on this organisation for a living and they are proud to do so. One wonders how proud the hacks of the press are of their own company. I would personally rather rinse my mouth out with dog poo than admit to working for some of the UK newspapers.
I must be getting more right wing also. That's another one of your posts that I agree with.
I find it somewhat ironic that MYT (a wholly British company) gets slated in the good old British press for poor financial results. Why is it that the same negative press is not directed towards our German owned competitors, World of Hueey (sorry TUI) and Thomas Cook (C&N) when they post pretty poor financials?
Well here's something for the sh1te hounds of the British press to dwell on. MYT is a bl@@dy good company to work for. Some of the best people in the industry (flight & ground) rely on this organisation for a living and they are proud to do so. One wonders how proud the hacks of the press are of their own company. I would personally rather rinse my mouth out with dog poo than admit to working for some of the UK newspapers.
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Must abmit the British press seem to love printing bad news, but would good news sell papers?
I love the way they build people up and destroy them (not), Phill Collins comes to mind.
I love the way they build people up and destroy them (not), Phill Collins comes to mind.
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Big tudor and Kinsman,
Well said! It has been very frustrating watching the press rip flesh from our bones. The whole world travel industry is in trouble, not just MYT! Certain papers have lost my custom, that's for sure!! PUDD
Well said! It has been very frustrating watching the press rip flesh from our bones. The whole world travel industry is in trouble, not just MYT! Certain papers have lost my custom, that's for sure!! PUDD
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I tried to book a holiday at short notice last week with MYT, not one seat available out of MAN over the weekend to any short haul destination. Within ten minutes I'd got seats on a TUI flight that departed with eight empty, and was given a choice of destinations!
That doesn't sound like a company about to stop flying to me.
That doesn't sound like a company about to stop flying to me.
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Well the share price has not taken the fall I expected so maybe the city was not impressed with the reports either!
I can’t see we are doing any worse than many of our competitors and a few contacts have told me we are doing better than most at the moment! We are flying all our aircraft and as far as I can tell we are filling them, which is more than some of the others can say at the moment!
I can’t see we are doing any worse than many of our competitors and a few contacts have told me we are doing better than most at the moment! We are flying all our aircraft and as far as I can tell we are filling them, which is more than some of the others can say at the moment!
Delay? What delay?
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Might I point out that when I was in Scheduling in LGW a few years back, rumours went about every year that some airline or another was going to cease flying on the Sunday morning when the clocks changed. The reason was that the airlines scheduling department had not input slot requests for new time change and there was nothing to worry about at all. Not that this means that all MYTs troubles dont exist but this sort of speculation always fans the flames. Good luck to all at MYT, and keep booking your hols with them. I'd still back them over some cheapo tour operator any day.
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From what I've heard, our aircraft are pretty well flat out with various contracts (not just the trooping) and with our core business requirements.
Just remember newspapers are only good for fish & chips and for wiping your ar*e on!!!
Just remember newspapers are only good for fish & chips and for wiping your ar*e on!!!
Having once worked for a company which ceased trading (at a time when there were very few jobs going in the airline industry), I sincerely hope that MYT will not founder.
However, as has been said on this forum before, it is the yield which counts rather than the load factor.
Advice for the modern jobs market?
1. "Mentally" quit your job.
2. Whilst in your current job do it as professionally etc. as you can - reason? Reputation/Track Record.
3. Whilst you are in your current job, look for the next one - reason? Better to make a move when YOU decide rather than have it forced on you by "downsizing", etc.
Hope it all works out for everyone out there.
However, as has been said on this forum before, it is the yield which counts rather than the load factor.
Advice for the modern jobs market?
1. "Mentally" quit your job.
2. Whilst in your current job do it as professionally etc. as you can - reason? Reputation/Track Record.
3. Whilst you are in your current job, look for the next one - reason? Better to make a move when YOU decide rather than have it forced on you by "downsizing", etc.
Hope it all works out for everyone out there.
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Obviously we all hope MYT keeps going, but if it does not then all does not appear to be lost. I have it on good authority that easyJet are banking on recruiting large numbers of pilots from the 'fallen' MYT in order to keep their expansion plans afloat. This will become particularly critical at the end of the Summer when the Airbuses start to arrive. I believe they will arrive in excess of 10 per month at the peak (perhaps an 'orange' representative could give the exact figures), and that will be an absolute nightmare for their trainers. What better solution than to take loads of someone else's trained and current pilots at no cost to yourself?
Incidentally, I also hear that bmi baby are about to employ a shed-load of ex-Maersk 737 pilots to rescue them from their type-rated and experienced pilot shortage.
Whatever happens, my very best wishes to all pilots, cabin crew and engineers at MYT. I hope it does not come down to it, but if things go pear-shaped then it looks like there are plenty people out there who will want to hear from you.
Incidentally, I also hear that bmi baby are about to employ a shed-load of ex-Maersk 737 pilots to rescue them from their type-rated and experienced pilot shortage.
Whatever happens, my very best wishes to all pilots, cabin crew and engineers at MYT. I hope it does not come down to it, but if things go pear-shaped then it looks like there are plenty people out there who will want to hear from you.
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You are doing as much damage as any journo here. MYT has not 'fallen' yet, as you put it, and hopefully will not do so. If things get that bad, watch your Number Six too, because they may not be the only casualty either!
If Easy's solution to their crew planning depends on the demise of MYT, god help them if MYT survive; that makes me think that your 'good authority' is highly suspect! Do you really believe that any airline would build it's plans on the possible demise of another airline? Easy cannot afford to have aircraft sitting on the tarmac without pilots, hoping that another goes 'tits up'? Sometimes pilots have too much idle time to think and pontificate, me thinks!
You are doing as much damage as any journo here. MYT has not 'fallen' yet, as you put it, and hopefully will not do so. If things get that bad, watch your Number Six too, because they may not be the only casualty either!
If Easy's solution to their crew planning depends on the demise of MYT, god help them if MYT survive; that makes me think that your 'good authority' is highly suspect! Do you really believe that any airline would build it's plans on the possible demise of another airline? Easy cannot afford to have aircraft sitting on the tarmac without pilots, hoping that another goes 'tits up'? Sometimes pilots have too much idle time to think and pontificate, me thinks!
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Norman,
Your figures are totally wrong. 10 buses per month....I don't think so! 20 next year, and the busiest month will see 3 deliveries.
Of course eJ are actively recruiting, and should any experienced pilots apply then that would no doubt help eJ. However, your attitude to MYT's current problems does not help a struggling industry!
Your figures are totally wrong. 10 buses per month....I don't think so! 20 next year, and the busiest month will see 3 deliveries.
Of course eJ are actively recruiting, and should any experienced pilots apply then that would no doubt help eJ. However, your attitude to MYT's current problems does not help a struggling industry!
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I think several airlines are banking on us going, one charter airline has been telling our guys at interview that they are waiting for us to fail at the end of March. Well here we are in April! I would say last weekends report was a poor attempt by one of our competitors to put the pressure on with the banks at this weeks meeting.
I don't know how this will all end but one thing is for sure this war may indeed see off several UK airlines. I hope that is not the case but all this speculation in the press harms the whole industry not just MYT. The press can finish a company with speculation, they have a lot of power! Power with little responsibility! I am all for freedom of the press but I would rather they stuck to facts not rumour and their own limited perspective.
But then that would not sell papers I guess.
I don't know how this will all end but one thing is for sure this war may indeed see off several UK airlines. I hope that is not the case but all this speculation in the press harms the whole industry not just MYT. The press can finish a company with speculation, they have a lot of power! Power with little responsibility! I am all for freedom of the press but I would rather they stuck to facts not rumour and their own limited perspective.
But then that would not sell papers I guess.
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I think speculating that it was "the press" that started the "rumour" is just as bad as the story itself. Where it came from I know not. The Company is not in very good shape, we all know that for certain. Yes the aircraft are all nearly full, but how much have our "customers" (sic) paid for these seats. The number of bums on seats does not guarantee that the airline is making a profit.
I'm sure nobody want to see the Company go under, but these are bl*@dy difficult times for everybody - lets not forget it.
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I'm sure nobody want to see the Company go under, but these are bl*@dy difficult times for everybody - lets not forget it.
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Yes difficult times for sure but if you look at the AGM report revenue from sales are up. From that I hope we can assume that we are making some money.
Nearly all of our operations made money last year, the loss came from piss poor accounting/management over several years and a very poor performance from the main PLC.
Let us not forget TC/JMC made a loss of over £180 million last year! We are not the only ones with problems! I am not playing down the situation but all this negative talk helps no one in the industry or the country as a whole. Our economic welfare hinges on public confidence and perceptions which at the moment are being damaged by very gloomy predictions from the media. Most of these predictions are from so called expert reporters and industry analysts who at best are making an educated guess.
I would just like to see some balanced factual reporting rather than the speculation and misinformation that seems to fill the media most of the time.
Question from ITV acnchor this morning with regard to the rescued 18 year old american soldier. Having been told the lady had two broken legs, a broken arm and gun shot wounds! "can you tell us if her injuries are serious"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes difficult times for sure but if you look at the AGM report revenue from sales are up. From that I hope we can assume that we are making some money.
Nearly all of our operations made money last year, the loss came from piss poor accounting/management over several years and a very poor performance from the main PLC.
Let us not forget TC/JMC made a loss of over £180 million last year! We are not the only ones with problems! I am not playing down the situation but all this negative talk helps no one in the industry or the country as a whole. Our economic welfare hinges on public confidence and perceptions which at the moment are being damaged by very gloomy predictions from the media. Most of these predictions are from so called expert reporters and industry analysts who at best are making an educated guess.
I would just like to see some balanced factual reporting rather than the speculation and misinformation that seems to fill the media most of the time.
Question from ITV acnchor this morning with regard to the rescued 18 year old american soldier. Having been told the lady had two broken legs, a broken arm and gun shot wounds! "can you tell us if her injuries are serious"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Let us not forget TC/JMC made a loss of over £180 million last year!'
'I would just like to see some balanced factual reporting rather than the speculation and misinformation'
I too would like to see the latter. So why say the speculative and misinformed former?
'I would just like to see some balanced factual reporting rather than the speculation and misinformation'
I too would like to see the latter. So why say the speculative and misinformed former?