Ryanair --> Buzz
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From: England
HEROD, god i aidmire your positive attitude, it was always a pleasure to fly with you mate!!!
I feel so sad today, I loved AirUk, a great team spirit and such fun, I have fallen on the side of the Dutch and I cannot see which is the more evil, them or Ryanair. I dreamed of joining you back at BUZZ to enjoy that team spirit again, alas its not to be ...
I hope that it all works out for you guys and that MOL appreciates just how good BUZZ is, you never know perhaps Ryanair could be modeled on BUZZ????? but hey I am dreaming again.
My best wishes to you all, lets not forget 31st Jan as the final day of AirUk, and organise many a p1ss up to remember the good times.
I feel so sad today, I loved AirUk, a great team spirit and such fun, I have fallen on the side of the Dutch and I cannot see which is the more evil, them or Ryanair. I dreamed of joining you back at BUZZ to enjoy that team spirit again, alas its not to be ...
I hope that it all works out for you guys and that MOL appreciates just how good BUZZ is, you never know perhaps Ryanair could be modeled on BUZZ????? but hey I am dreaming again.
My best wishes to you all, lets not forget 31st Jan as the final day of AirUk, and organise many a p1ss up to remember the good times.
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From: Between the Moon and NYC
Good news for Buzz pilots!
While I really preferred the yellow paint scheme - very refreshing in a dull, gloomy English sky, I believe the Buzz pilots are a lot better off... Now they will fly advanced 737-800s instead of junky BAe-146s or tired 733s. Now they will be joining a market leader - instead of an unsteady ship like Buzz - job security will be boosted big time!!!!!
Yeah, they will have to put up with Ryanair's crap management, but job security and aircraft flown will improve big time!
Great news for Buzz pilots out there!
Cheers
Yeah, they will have to put up with Ryanair's crap management, but job security and aircraft flown will improve big time!
Great news for Buzz pilots out there!
Cheers
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From: UK
I suspect that Ryanairs only interest in buzz is the peak time slots we hold. I really hope I'm wrong.
We're having a meeting with MOL Monday morning @ STN so maybe we'll learn more?
The buzz pilots and cabin crew are a fantastic bunch who have been lied to and shat on for ever since the cloggies took over, so we're experts at crap management.
You never know it might just be alright.................
We're having a meeting with MOL Monday morning @ STN so maybe we'll learn more?
The buzz pilots and cabin crew are a fantastic bunch who have been lied to and shat on for ever since the cloggies took over, so we're experts at crap management.
You never know it might just be alright.................
Goodbye buzz
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From: south central
Reported on local ceefax today that Ryanair have yet to decide on opening Bournemouth as a 2nd UK base for Buzz. Will find out at the press conference on tuesday 4th Feb!
Newswatcher: Re the 146s. Bournemouth-Murcia are filling B733 up quickly, as is Malaga and Bergerac. Belfast, however may not last the takeover as Ryr stated in the press release that they will axe under performing routes.
Bournemouth Airport awaits Tuesday with baited breath.
Fingers Crossed
Newswatcher: Re the 146s. Bournemouth-Murcia are filling B733 up quickly, as is Malaga and Bergerac. Belfast, however may not last the takeover as Ryr stated in the press release that they will axe under performing routes.
Bournemouth Airport awaits Tuesday with baited breath.
Fingers Crossed
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Easyjet buys GO (approx 24 aircraft at the time)
Cost = approx £400 million
Ryanair buys BUZZ (approx 12 aircraft at the time of buyout)
Cost = £15 million (including £11 million in the bank)
Who do you think has got the better buy??
If you are an employee of KLM reading this thread you should hang your head in shame.
Whatever MOL's faults you have got to admire his astuteness.
Cost = approx £400 million
Ryanair buys BUZZ (approx 12 aircraft at the time of buyout)
Cost = £15 million (including £11 million in the bank)
Who do you think has got the better buy??
If you are an employee of KLM reading this thread you should hang your head in shame.
Whatever MOL's faults you have got to admire his astuteness.
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From: United Kingdom/Canada
Being just a passenger, I have always found the service on buzz and Go a lot better than that of EasyJet and Ryanair (though I have no complaints of the latter two).
I believe it is because buzz and Go were set up by very good, well-respected brands (KLM/Air UK and British Airways) and the service has obviously rubbed off!
But, with the number of start-ups the industry is seeing, I think that consolidation over the next 2 years will be important. I always thought one of the survivors would be buzz, but who knew what was round the corner?
Can anyone explain what will happen to the 6 Boeing 737-300s buzz is recieving from Continental and what will happen to buzz's existing 3 Boeing 737-300s?
Rumour has it that bmibaby could be up for sale, or adding bases along the lines of bmi's owners SAS and Lufthansa.
I believe it is because buzz and Go were set up by very good, well-respected brands (KLM/Air UK and British Airways) and the service has obviously rubbed off!
But, with the number of start-ups the industry is seeing, I think that consolidation over the next 2 years will be important. I always thought one of the survivors would be buzz, but who knew what was round the corner?
Can anyone explain what will happen to the 6 Boeing 737-300s buzz is recieving from Continental and what will happen to buzz's existing 3 Boeing 737-300s?
Rumour has it that bmibaby could be up for sale, or adding bases along the lines of bmi's owners SAS and Lufthansa.
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Did this come out of the blue for everyone else? Hadn't Buzz just announced a sponsorship throuigh Cabair? Seems a bit strange as presumably they've been in talks with Ryanair for some time?
Also i'm a bit confused as to whats actually going to happen to Buzz. Is it going to be metamorphasised into Ryanair or is it still going to operate as Buzz, but owned by the O'Irish instead of the Dutch.
Whats going to happen to the pilots, cabin crew etc?
Answers on a post card.....
Also i'm a bit confused as to whats actually going to happen to Buzz. Is it going to be metamorphasised into Ryanair or is it still going to operate as Buzz, but owned by the O'Irish instead of the Dutch.
Whats going to happen to the pilots, cabin crew etc?
Answers on a post card.....
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From: East Anglia
Not good for anyone finding out on the TV news that Buzz was sold Including the 60plus engineers working for KLM UK Engineering who at stansted only look after the Buzz Fleet!! Sold down the river in secret by KLM mainline. 
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From: UK
So much for Buzz being KLM's low cost airline for the future, new aircraft, new bases, new routes etc. But as Darren Gough said in his autobiography "the darkest hour is the hour before dawn".
Still waiting to find out if Buzz we be merged into Ryanair, or continue as it is own brand, but owned by Ryanair. If it is the former, manual check every day is not that appealing.
Still waiting to find out if Buzz we be merged into Ryanair, or continue as it is own brand, but owned by Ryanair. If it is the former, manual check every day is not that appealing.
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From: UK
What a great shame for everyone involved and that means the whole of Buzz not just the well remunerated pilots.
Ops, crewing, and all the others involved in the back up services to the flight crew will find it even more difficult job wise as RYR already has positions covering their jobs.
The Handling agent issue needs to be addressed as well as RYR use Groundstar and Buzz use aviance. More jobs on the line I guess, but hey so long as you drivers get your licences updated to a better type and keep your salaries who cares.
Ops, crewing, and all the others involved in the back up services to the flight crew will find it even more difficult job wise as RYR already has positions covering their jobs.
The Handling agent issue needs to be addressed as well as RYR use Groundstar and Buzz use aviance. More jobs on the line I guess, but hey so long as you drivers get your licences updated to a better type and keep your salaries who cares.
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What a shame to see such a well established and professionally crewed airline be replaced by this. Buzz, having the parentage of a proper airline at least knew how to do things the right way. Even offered excellent cafetiere of coffee for £1.50 whereas Ryans charged me a fortune for a small can of coke and then 'hadn't any change'. I was always treated properly by Buzz but the other lot always treated their pax with contempt. Such a shame, I hope the crews get treated fairly, or even find a post elsewhere.
Jolly Green Giant
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From: Dublin, Ireland
Captain Max, why don't you actually bother to read posts from actual Ryanair pilots about their conditions and not just make rash judgements without knowing the facts??
Very good pay, excellent training, rosters known weeks in advance and your days off set in stone. Work hard, get paid well, I guess that's unusual for some pilots!
I don't care what anyone says, if Ryanair were a British owned and British managed company we wouldn't get a tenth of the whinging that goes on about Ryanair. You don't like flying Ryanar as PAX? Fly with someone else and pay more, it's your choice! Ryanair does exactly what it says on the tin.
Good to see that good old fashioned English begrudgery is still alive and well on PPRuNe.
Very good pay, excellent training, rosters known weeks in advance and your days off set in stone. Work hard, get paid well, I guess that's unusual for some pilots!
I don't care what anyone says, if Ryanair were a British owned and British managed company we wouldn't get a tenth of the whinging that goes on about Ryanair. You don't like flying Ryanar as PAX? Fly with someone else and pay more, it's your choice! Ryanair does exactly what it says on the tin.
Good to see that good old fashioned English begrudgery is still alive and well on PPRuNe.
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From: north of barlu
learn from history ?
It would seem that this is history repeating itself !.
Debonair could not make the BAe 146 work in the low cost sector and neather can Buzz it is just the wrong aircraft for the job.
I just hope that the employees of Buzz have a better time with Ryanair than the Debonair people had on the dole.
Debonair could not make the BAe 146 work in the low cost sector and neather can Buzz it is just the wrong aircraft for the job.
I just hope that the employees of Buzz have a better time with Ryanair than the Debonair people had on the dole.
"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
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BoxcarWilhomena, those "knackered 737s" (that I happen to take a pride in) are turning in 98% despatch reliability. 4321zip, as far as is known, the six will arrive (two are already on line), after that, who knows. Nightstop, why not come back to us? With your Midas Touch (or should it be Golden B*lls), we could all be in for a windfall. Remember, until you hear otherwise, the future is still yellow.