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Good to have news of the incoming ATRs.
One of the local news sources had the following in an article last night
"Sudeep Ghai, Aurigny Chief Commercial Officer, said the leased turboprops would be delivered by quarter two and three respectively, increasing the ATR fleet from three to five."
The Embraer is now due to leave "later this year" which I guess will depend on when the second ATR arrives and is in service.
Titan have been in today operating the Manchester flight with an A320.
One of the local news sources had the following in an article last night
"Sudeep Ghai, Aurigny Chief Commercial Officer, said the leased turboprops would be delivered by quarter two and three respectively, increasing the ATR fleet from three to five."
The Embraer is now due to leave "later this year" which I guess will depend on when the second ATR arrives and is in service.
Titan have been in today operating the Manchester flight with an A320.
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Good to have news of the incoming ATRs.
One of the local news sources had the following in an article last night
"Sudeep Ghai, Aurigny Chief Commercial Officer, said the leased turboprops would be delivered by quarter two and three respectively, increasing the ATR fleet from three to five."
The Embraer is now due to leave "later this year" which I guess will depend on when the second ATR arrives and is in service.
Titan have been in today operating the Manchester flight with an A320.
One of the local news sources had the following in an article last night
"Sudeep Ghai, Aurigny Chief Commercial Officer, said the leased turboprops would be delivered by quarter two and three respectively, increasing the ATR fleet from three to five."
The Embraer is now due to leave "later this year" which I guess will depend on when the second ATR arrives and is in service.
Titan have been in today operating the Manchester flight with an A320.
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Titan A320 is operating several Gatwick to Guernsey rotations for Aurigny today. Jethros is showing the A320 leased to Aurigny based at Guernsey. Probably a wet lease that includes crew.
An Avantiair DH4 positioned into GCI yesterday to take up the slack left by Easterns dismissal.
The aircraft should start flying for GR tomorrow - 14 March.
A question, how many sets of crew would a wet leased aircraft like this come with?
The aircraft should start flying for GR tomorrow - 14 March.
A question, how many sets of crew would a wet leased aircraft like this come with?
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Looking at Flight Radar the Avanti Dash8 is doing the GR608/9 tomorrow, the GR 670/1 Friday morning, followed by the GR722 GCI- EXT (but not the return) before positioning up to Birmingham to operate a flight to Stuttgart, and is then positioning back into Guernsey on Friday night.
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Looking at Flight Radar the Avanti Dash8 is doing the GR608/9 tomorrow, the GR 670/1 Friday morning, followed by the GR722 GCI- EXT (but not the return) before positioning up to Birmingham to operate a flight to Stuttgart, and is then positioning back into Guernsey on Friday night.
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Busy few days in terms of leased aircraft however things appear a lot more stable now:
Titan have been in and out over the past week a few times helping with capacity. Today the A320 did Bristol, Dublin Liverpool and Birmingham, tomorrow she is down for a pair of Manchesters and a Birmingham.
Both Avantiair Dash 8s were in service for a time today doing a Gatwick return each before both repositioning out to Stockholm this afternoon. One is due back Thursday evening. I believe Avanti are here until the end of the month.
A Luxwing Dash 8 (also ex-Flybe) positioned in from Bari today to fly 3 Gatwick returns tomorrow - I don't know if this is the backup aircraft that was mentioned the other week as being due.
In terms of the new routes, the loads on the inaugural outbounds (based on the Guernsey Press) were:
Stansted - 50 passengers
London City (GR406) - 37 passengers
Paris - 76 passengers.
I was on the first LCY - GCI which had 50, which I didn't think was too bad considering that was the afternoon flight and there was a second one later that evening.
Titan have been in and out over the past week a few times helping with capacity. Today the A320 did Bristol, Dublin Liverpool and Birmingham, tomorrow she is down for a pair of Manchesters and a Birmingham.
Both Avantiair Dash 8s were in service for a time today doing a Gatwick return each before both repositioning out to Stockholm this afternoon. One is due back Thursday evening. I believe Avanti are here until the end of the month.
A Luxwing Dash 8 (also ex-Flybe) positioned in from Bari today to fly 3 Gatwick returns tomorrow - I don't know if this is the backup aircraft that was mentioned the other week as being due.
In terms of the new routes, the loads on the inaugural outbounds (based on the Guernsey Press) were:
Stansted - 50 passengers
London City (GR406) - 37 passengers
Paris - 76 passengers.
I was on the first LCY - GCI which had 50, which I didn't think was too bad considering that was the afternoon flight and there was a second one later that evening.
Aurigny, through no fault of their own, (Read on) found themselves entering into the lease in market. Against advice, they opted for Eastern. We all know how that ended.
From what I can make out from the DASH8’s, Aviantiair have a lease agreement with Aurigny (Duration not known by me). However, it appears to have been agreed that there are a couple of days in the week they cannot accommodate due to prior commitments, hence Luxwing stepping in to cover.
As for the use of Titan Airways, it should not be a surprise. Titan also help out Loganair (Old boy’s school?). What’s the saying – ‘an airplane only makes money when it’s in the air’ or ‘you give me work, and I’ll give you favourable rates’
Both Aurigny and Loganair have been caught out with perceived ATR 72 deliveries being delayed through both maintenance and spares constraints.
That said, the financial implications of leasing in aircraft by the above must have a few sphincters clutching within both airlines for varying reasons.
Or do contractual constraints come into play?
From what I can make out from the DASH8’s, Aviantiair have a lease agreement with Aurigny (Duration not known by me). However, it appears to have been agreed that there are a couple of days in the week they cannot accommodate due to prior commitments, hence Luxwing stepping in to cover.
As for the use of Titan Airways, it should not be a surprise. Titan also help out Loganair (Old boy’s school?). What’s the saying – ‘an airplane only makes money when it’s in the air’ or ‘you give me work, and I’ll give you favourable rates’
Both Aurigny and Loganair have been caught out with perceived ATR 72 deliveries being delayed through both maintenance and spares constraints.
That said, the financial implications of leasing in aircraft by the above must have a few sphincters clutching within both airlines for varying reasons.
Or do contractual constraints come into play?
As for the use of Titan Airways, it should not be a surprise. Titan also help out Loganair (Old boy’s school?). What’s the saying – ‘an airplane only makes money when it’s in the air’ or ‘you give me work, and I’ll give you favourable rates’
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If a Titan 320 for a day can't leave a lot of change out of £30k plus docs plus crews plus hotac etc etc etc
Just wondering what the cost will be for a Dash8 from Luxwing and Avantiair ???? Any ideas !!!
Just wondering what the cost will be for a Dash8 from Luxwing and Avantiair ???? Any ideas !!!
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I understand the problem is that G-ORAI has been out of action at Dinard since Feb and there has been a long delay in getting hold of a nose-wheel part. If they weren't leasing, people would be rightly cross about the ensuing delays and cancellations. As ever, if you choose to run a small airline as an economic enabler for an island which would otherwise be poorly connected due to its size, you do have to be mature about the trade-offs.
How very true ! Problem is, there is a vociferous crowd who don’t appreciate that; combined with another crowd who think that all problems will be solved by extending the runway. Dream on !
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Is there any indication as to how long the A320 will operate for GR? I see it’s done Dublin twice this week.
I’m due to fly DUB-GCI in mid April and was hoping for an ATR (I’d take a DH8D though).
I’m due to fly DUB-GCI in mid April and was hoping for an ATR (I’d take a DH8D though).
Titan G-POWM has just landed at LGW from GCI ..possibly combining two flights ..one morning flight had the borrowed dash 8 (9H-LWB)is showing cancelled
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Looks like the Luxwing Dash 8 is still in Southampton and the inbound back to Guernsey indefinitely delayed.
The A320 was down for the 602/603 LGW rotation so I guess where they can they have accommodated the 604/605 passengers on the A320 flight. 👍
The A320 was down for the 602/603 LGW rotation so I guess where they can they have accommodated the 604/605 passengers on the A320 flight. 👍